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Old 06/04/09, 8:43 AM   #4906
Dashihawk
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Paladin
 
Spirestone
Originally Posted by Varg View Post
I've only done the 10man, but cloak of shadows removes the debuff, so you don't take any damage in the pot, but it doesn't remove you from the pot.

During the last kills I never got put in the pot, so can't confirm that it still works.
thanks. That is what i was looking for

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Old 06/04/09, 10:15 AM   #4907
GonFreaks
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Alonsus (EU)
can i ask why spent 1 point in Silencing Shot in the MM spec ?

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Old 06/04/09, 10:19 AM   #4908
valiloramov
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Chromaggus (EU)
Originally Posted by GonFreaks View Post
can i ask why spent 1 point in Silencing Shot in the MM spec ?
I'm sure this has been answered before but as silencing shot is now off the GCD, it can be macro'd into other shots for a "free shot" every 20 seconds. If it hits for 800 damage on average every 20 seconds that's a 40 DPS increase.

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Old 06/04/09, 10:26 AM   #4909
sbernett
Glass Joe
 
Troll Hunter
 
Cenarion Circle
Marks is better? or not and does it depend?

Hi everyone! This is my first post so I just wanted to say hi to everyone.

To get right down to it, for the most part I see all the hunters in the worlds top guilds using a 7/57/7 marks spec. I figure they use this because its the best dps spec they can have. Now the question I have is: why is it the best? Maybe its something that I'm doing wrong. This is the spec that I have built for marks:

Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

I have messed around on the target dummy for a while with it and I just can't see the advantage over survival. Its extremely mana inefficient (still) and the dps just seems lower. I have silencing shot macroed to everything, I reapply serpent sting manually when FotFF trinket has the most stacks and right before greatness and furious howl drop to get the most out of each serpent sting tick, I prioritize chemera > aimed > arcane > steady, I always use readiness to get two chemera shots and two rapid fires to get mana back, I have my wolf's +10% buff macroed with rapid fire, and I don't waste a gcd for any reason. My lag is fine, my rotation is as tight as I can get it, but I still dont see the numbers I do as survival. Now, I have yet to use marks in raid because I don't trust it. My duel spec is for pvp, so I don’t have the luxury of bringing a marks spec and just changing it if I don't see what I want to. My gear is all gemmed for agility because I'm still playing survival, but I'm not sure that gems change when going back and forth between survival and marks. That being said, is there a stat that I should look for specifically for marks that I don’t want as much for survival? Here is the spec that I currently raid with as survival:

Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

Just the other night in 25 naxx, I was able to hit roughly 6450 dps (no exaggeration) with no signs of any attacks getting unusually high crit rates as to inflate the numbers. All raid buffs were present (still had 300 ap HM). With judgment of wisdom on the boss, I NEVER ran under 95% mana. So after all this, I just don't see the advantage of marks. If anyone knows what I might be doing wrong in marks, I would greatly appreciate it they could let me know. Also, feel free to tear into my spec(s) and glyph choices. I don't mind being told that I'm wrong. I just want to be able to raid with the confidence that I have the absolute BEST damage that my toon/gear can have after all variables have come into play. Thank you very much to anyone willing to help

Last edited by sbernett : 06/04/09 at 10:49 AM. Reason: submitted early by accident

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Old 06/04/09, 10:31 AM   #4910
valiloramov
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Chromaggus (EU)
Originally Posted by sbernett View Post
Hi everyone! This is my first post so I just wanted to say hi to everyone.

To get right down to it, for the most part I see all the hunters in the worlds top guilds using a 7/57/7 marks spec. I figure they use this because its the best dps spec they can have. Now the question I have is why. Maybe its something that I'm doing wrong. This is the spec that I have built for marks:
Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft
There is no quick answer for this, I would recommend using the spreadsheet, analysing your gear, rotation, which boss you're on and also read this whole thread as it should cover nearly everything.

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Old 06/04/09, 10:33 AM   #4911
BravePT
Glass Joe
 
Human Priest
 
Grim Batol (EU)
A easy question....im playing again my Priest....and im starting ulduar 25. Should i choose Crit Gear or Haste Gear ?

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Old 06/04/09, 10:48 AM   #4912
Lazare
Piston Honda
 
Human Priest
 
Lightbringer
Originally Posted by BravePT View Post
A easy question....im playing again my Priest....and im starting ulduar 25. Should i choose Crit Gear or Haste Gear ?
First, this is the wrong thread - you'd be better off in the simple questions/simple answers thread. Second, this was answered in the first post of this very thread, as well as this very page, none of which you have apparently read. Third, this has been discussed at immense length in this forum, which you apparently haven't searched. Fourth and finally, you also didn't give your spec or current gear, which (obviously) matters, so nobody could answer your question anyhow.

In short: Fail.

(To actually attempt to answer your question - just grab the highest item level gear that drops. Gem slots are great. MP5 is terrible. In case of a tie, pick whatever has the lowest stamina. Also, I'd suggest editing your post for grammar.)

Last edited by Lazare : 06/04/09 at 10:54 AM.

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Old 06/04/09, 10:50 AM   #4913
sbernett
Glass Joe
 
Troll Hunter
 
Cenarion Circle
sorry, my last post got submitted early by accident. Just finished editing it

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Old 06/04/09, 11:17 AM   #4914
dhthomps
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Death Knight
 
Lethon
UI

The DK UI thread has been locked, I will post my questions in this thread until an appropriate channel opens up.

Two questions (and my partial answers), please add any additions, please remove points you think to be unnecessary:

A) What functionality is necessary in a DK tank UI? .

1) A DK tank must know when Killing Machine, Rime, etc procs.
2) A DK tank must be able to use his abilities without looking all the way at the bottom of their screen.
(tbh I'm still debating this, if your rotation is second nature you could potentially only need your oh-shit buttons near you character)
3) A DK tank must have a threat meter.
4) A DK tank must be able to predict when burst damage, magic damage, or other predictable damage is incoming.
5) A DK tank must know when, and who pulled aggro.
6) A DK tank must know when to refresh diseases.
7) A DK tank must know the status of his health and runic power.

B) What is the simplest, cleanest way to accomplish the above goals. I'm operating under the assumption that the less information on your screen the better (I understand not everyone will hold this assumption as a premise).

1) I was thinking Satrina's buff bars or a combat text, it would be even simpler if a big red message flashed across my screen that said "RIME", but I don't know what addon has this functionality.
2) Bartender? Is this the best/cleanest/simplest? I was looking at Ciderhelm's UI and he has his oh-shit buttons directly beneath his character and the rest of his abilities a bit lower.
3) Omen, some other threat meter, is this one debatable at all?
4) Two addons accomplish this, an enemy castbar, and DBM. Do you have a preference?
5) This is a functionality I'm still searching for. Grid perhaps? I'm using pitbull, can pitbull be tweaked to say or show who pulled aggro?
6) I'm using needtoknow class timers, but I'm actually thinking I could combine a few things using runicwatch or w/e the popular DK runic addon is called
7) See answer to 6


What I'm specifically looking for from the community are additions, removals, and recommendations to the list. First I want to hammer out my goals, then I was to pick the cleanest, smallest way to accomplish this. (Too much information procs tunnel vision IRL)

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Old 06/04/09, 12:10 PM   #4915
Vynn
Glass Joe
 
Undead Death Knight
 
Ysera
i'll tell you what I use, just be aware that there are other options.

1) A DK tank must know when Killing Machine, Rime, etc procs.
MSBT - Configure it show those procs with a critical effect where you'll see it.
2) A DK tank must be able to use his abilities without looking all the way at the bottom of their screen.
Yuri's Runic something - put your runes into the centre of the screen,
3) A DK tank must have a threat meter.
Omen
4) A DK tank must be able to predict when burst damage, magic damage, or other predictable damage is incoming.
Bigs Wigs
5) A DK tank must know when, and who pulled aggro.
Omen - Also turn on target of target on your ui.
6) A DK tank must know when to refresh diseases.
Dotimer, I think is what I use still. If you use Runewatch over Yuri's, it shows diseases.
7) A DK tank must know the status of his health and runic power.
I use default unit frames...Pitbull is good for a custom one.

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Old 06/04/09, 12:59 PM   #4916
BravePT
Glass Joe
 
Human Priest
 
Grim Batol (EU)
Ok. Then let me say things like you.

First: Im not english, and its not suppose ppl from other language know English like you do.

Second: Ofc i didnt read all ...its millions of posts.

Third : Its my first post on this forum, im not suppose to born with the knowledge of what topic swits best for me.


And to finish...im Holy Spec.

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Old 06/04/09, 1:31 PM   #4917
Krushed
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Warrior
 
Thunderhorn (EU)
Ok I need serious help with the DPS of my fury warrior, I know I should be able to do quite a bit more dps with him because he's in 3/4 epics and the rest blue, but he only manages about 1.6 avg :s I'll give you all my main stats and can someone then please tell me if any stand out as a reason for this terrible DPS.
AP=3180
Hit Rating=341
ArP=0
Crit Rating=475
Expertise=3
Str=981
Agi=419
If it's none of these stats then it could be my rotation but I'm using WW, BT, Slam and HS.
I'd really like to get this sorted so I can get raiding! I'm not a pro so I can't see where I'm going wrong. Any answers would be greatly appreciated!

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Old 06/04/09, 1:46 PM   #4918
Fex
Piston Honda
 
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Human Mage
 
Azgalor
Originally Posted by Krushed View Post
Ok I need serious help with the DPS of my fury warrior, I know I should be able to do quite a bit more dps with him because he's in 3/4 epics and the rest blue, but he only manages about 1.6 avg :s I'll give you all my main stats and can someone then please tell me if any stand out as a reason for this terrible DPS.
AP=3180
Hit Rating=341
ArP=0
Crit Rating=475
Expertise=3
Str=981
Agi=419
If it's none of these stats then it could be my rotation but I'm using WW, BT, Slam and HS.
I'd really like to get this sorted so I can get raiding! I'm not a pro so I can't see where I'm going wrong. Any answers would be greatly appreciated!
I have bolded your primary problem.

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Old 06/04/09, 3:00 PM   #4919
Wargi
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Human Priest
 
Twisting Nether (EU)
Quick question on the matter, is Heroic Presence raid-wide or party only?

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Old 06/04/09, 3:26 PM   #4920
JAXNMA
 
Gnome Rogue
 
Aggramar
UI scale for sixthyui

I cant get this ui scale to work with my resolution.... all the wow based stuff is tiny, and almost unreadable... what can i do, i love the ui overall, and i would like to use it.


thanks in advance

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