Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 329

Davaeorn · 09/20/09, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by Shapner

was wondering if anyone else has or knows the correct answer and can give reasoning supporting their answer.

ANSWER: It doesn't work.

REASON: It doesn't work.

Lilixer · 09/20/09, 1:22 PM

Not sure this has been asked yet, since it's a 22 page thread,

however,

Was thinking earlier, about how Illustrations and Eye of the Broodmother Work, would these two proc effects actually stack? So thats the 200 + 125 spell power respectively.

Tribat · 09/20/09, 3:12 PM

Originally Posted by Akaru

I used to do FS9 -> FS8 -> Blizz -> (repeat) but since 3.2 I've switched to this: LB -> tab LB -> tab LB -> tab LB (until everyone has LB) -> Blizz (until first LB explodes) -> (Repeat). Granted, LB requires 11s to explode, and then every 1.5s later, but if the fight will last longer than 20s (and none of the adds die before that time), it's better DPS to keep LBing if all of the 'first batch' will explode their LBs. If there's something like 4 adds I use Blizzard as filler between the 4th LB and the next wave of LBs after explosion.

Also, if there's one among the pack of adds being AoE'ed that's stronger/need to be killed earlier than the others, then target him for the Hot Streaks that you will get. Of course this one works when there's alot of adds that don't die that fast (In Uld25 mainly). Sometimes when there's more than 7 I just keep tabbing LB (phase 2 Black Knight, Freya adds, etc) - 17k dps on Freya trash don't lie :p Try it out.

/targetenemy
/cast living bomb

is very useful

serphice · 09/20/09, 3:19 PM

ahh ok, thank you for the response =)

coolhandluke1 · 09/20/09, 3:34 PM

Not sure if this has been asked already but has anyone tried using flask of distilled wisdom ? I have a fair amount of sp unbuffed and I figured that frost wyrm would just add to more overhealing.

liqnitrous2 · 09/20/09, 3:34 PM

I recently picked up the 4pT9.
I am wondering if [Eye of the Broodmother] would be an upgrade over [Sif's Remembrance] with the 4pT9?

The 87 crit from the Eye gives me just under 2% crit and would boost my overall crit to about 30% raid buffed. Sif's mp5 proc averages at 53 mp5, and I don't have mana issues at all..

I think the Eye has more value with the 4p bonus. Any input?

Shapner · 09/20/09, 3:49 PM

Originally Posted by Davaeorn

ANSWER: It doesn't work.

REASON: It doesn't work.

Anyone care to help that is not a down syndrome patient?

Nisall · 09/20/09, 4:05 PM

If you need proof just try out both speccs.

meximan77 · 09/20/09, 4:11 PM

So pretty much. Go mace spec + arp gems= ez mode 100% switch trinks

OR

stay axe, wait for more arp crap. switch str to arp and switch trinks.

Thanks for the answer Soul!

Warleet · 09/20/09, 6:12 PM

The World of Warcraft Armory

this is the spec i'm running with and i'm using Malice Mh/Remorse Oh. I lose the ability of Ambush and Backstab, but i just use hemmorage as my cmbo generator and rotate with SnD, Rupture, Evis (only if there's enough time left on snd/rupture) the slower, higher dmg weapons work best for this seeing as how hemorrage is your generator.

Talanik · 09/20/09, 6:25 PM

Originally Posted by Shapner

Anyone care to help that is not a down syndrome patient?

I mean he is pretty much right. They don't work because Blizzard doesn't want them to work. Bleeds are typically considered periodic damage, but in this case they aren't. I think its just poor wording on the tooltip of Genesis.

Solitaire · 09/20/09, 6:35 PM

Is gemming AP over Agil a dps increase again once we lose the 4p T8 bonus?

talenramel · 09/20/09, 6:47 PM

Originally Posted by Solitaire

Is gemming AP over Agil a dps increase again once we lose the 4p T8 bonus?

From what I've been able to tell, Agility is usually superior to AP until one gets to the crit cap, at which point AP pulls ahead.

lairpie · 09/20/09, 7:29 PM

There's no reason, support, or explanation for why genesis doesn't work on rip and rake, it just doesn't. It would be a decent dump for extra points, far better than feral aggression, but upon testing it does not modify bleed damage.

Nature spells for a druid, for the question about what you can instant cast with the new predatory instincts, are every cast time ability other than starfire (things longer than 10 seconds like rez would obviously not count, and no, haste bringing the cast time lower than 10s doesn't count).

I do wonder if you can for instance get 5 CPs on one target, then instant cyclone another. CPs are obviously relative to your current target and you can't get 5 CPs then rip a different target, but it seems like one intended use of this would be get 5 CPs on a damager, instant cyclone a healer, kill damager. I'm not sure if you could just tab and do it or if you would have to focus cast it, or if its doable at all.

Quinta · 09/20/09, 7:50 PM

Please ...please help me improve my dps.....i stink and need a total revamping. Yes, this a desparate cry for help.

Nerafern · 09/20/09, 9:09 PM

I was looking at trying out a Holy Paladin, and I was wondering what the best professions are (if you are min/maxing). The only Holy Paladin thread I saw was a bit outdated. So I wasn't sure if BS/JC was best (like many classes) or something else (I think tailoring has a good caster boost). Thanks in advance for any help.

Ionnara · 09/20/09, 10:27 PM

I'm looking for some input here, I am currently at 80.74% passive ARP which puts me at 100% with Expose Armor making the proc from MR is practically useless(unless I'm on a target that our rogues aren't).I'm thinking swap out MR with my greatness until I can get a Death's Choice or Dark Matter and gearing towards agil and maintain the 80% ARP.

sluggs · 09/20/09, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by Ionnara

I'm looking for some input here, I am currently at 80.74% passive ARP which puts me at 100% with Expose Armor making the proc from MR is practically useless(unless I'm on a target that our rogues aren't).I'm thinking swap out MR with my greatness until I can get a Death's Choice or Dark Matter and gearing towards agil and maintain the 80% ARP.

it does not make runestone useless. the sunder armor component is calculated on target first not added to your armor pen. ex. if target has 1000 armor sunder reduces it by 20% to 800 then you ignore 80.74% of the targets 800 armor.

You can also exchange some of your arp gems for agility if you feel that runestone isnt working well so you can get benefit of full arp with more agi altogether.

Authopsy · 09/21/09, 1:46 AM

Last night I got [Remorse] from rasorscale. I'm actually specced in Combat/fist weapon and have [Kinetic Ripper]. I don't have any sword for the main hand to replace my [Calamity's Grasp] but I'm wondering if changing my offhand and keeping the Fist spec would be better than staying with the kinetic reaper in the offhand.

I would loose 5% crit on my offhand's attacks but the stats and the dps of the sword are better.

Thank you for your answers and forgive my English, I'm swiss

Koruptdeath · 09/21/09, 2:26 AM

Fellow Hunters: I am curious about ArPen and how it relates to a "starting" raider.

Previously I was in mostly Naxx/Valor/Hero gear. I have started collecting the new pieces of armor from ToC as well as older pieces with ArPen on it. I feel like my DPS is not where it should be however, especially when I run the numbers on the DPS spreadsheet. My question is related to gemming, MM spec and ArPen altogether. Exactly how much ArPen is needed to start seeing marked improvement in DPS? I currently gem with +Agi and +Hit gems because I don't get enough hit from gear even with points in FA to cap.

Is it better to just gem for ArPen anyway? And just plug in the hit gaps with upgrades later on? On a heroic dummy by myself without any other buffs but TSA and Hawk I can pull ~3.3k DPS.

SushiMushi · 09/21/09, 6:16 AM

I would prefer [Bejeweled Wizard's Bracers]

Mantikore · 09/21/09, 6:38 AM

Originally Posted by SushiMushi

I would prefer [Bejeweled Wizard's Bracers]

Why?
Would you exchange 7 Int, 7 Sta, 28 MP5, 7 Crit and 11 Spell Power to gain 50 haste?
The socket bonus is the same but [Wristwraps of Cloudy Omen] has yellow socket instead of blue...

origumo · 09/21/09, 6:52 AM

Long time reader first time poster, big fan of Aldriana and Mavanas postings. I have a simple noob request: What are the current weights after the Arpen nerf, and where or how can i find and keep up with weights in the future?

SushiMushi · 09/21/09, 7:57 AM

I compared [Bejeweled Wizard's Bracers] with [Black Chitin Bracers] because both items are craftable and have the same itemlvl.
[Wristwraps of Cloudy Omen] is definetly bis 258lvl.
Too bad there is no haste/crit/spp item ;(

Mantikore · 09/21/09, 8:08 AM

oh! my bad then! :P
anyways, I still think that [Black Chitin Bracers] is better because you get 17 MP5 vs 42 Crit and yellow socket vs blue socket on [Bejeweled Wizard's Bracers]...