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Old 06/10/09, 6:20 PM   #5116
Gavinisbest
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Human Paladin
 
Silver Hand
Am I the only one noticing that our Judgment of Martyr got nerfed? I went to go test my DPS out on a dummy today, and found I was doing about ~700 DPS less than a week ago, without any real gear or gem changes.

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Old 06/10/09, 6:23 PM   #5117
mjgunn
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Draenei Shaman
 
Khadgar
Quick question, for trinkets such as wrathstone, does the sim have it set to be popped ASAP when the cooldown is up (which is what I'm assuming), or timing it with something like heroism?

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Old 06/10/09, 6:45 PM   #5118
Malan
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Originally Posted by mjgunn View Post
Quick question, for trinkets such as wrathstone, does the sim have it set to be popped ASAP when the cooldown is up (which is what I'm assuming), or timing it with something like heroism?
Amazingly enough there's an option that says 'sync bloodlust with trinkets' if you had looked.

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Old 06/10/09, 6:57 PM   #5119
mjgunn
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Khadgar
Originally Posted by Malan View Post
Amazingly enough there's an option that says 'sync bloodlust with trinkets' if you had looked.
Amazing how you manage to nicely answer my question and be a dick about it at the same time. Thanks :P

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Old 06/10/09, 6:57 PM   #5120
Kurohoshi
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.exe

In the same spirit as WrathCalcs, I have created this program:

I would like to know your opinion
PS. I would have created a new thread, but I haven't reached the 10 posts yet
PPS. If you are afraid of keyloggers (I'd be if I were you), you can open it in a virtual machine or with the high-security mode most A-V have, it won't modify the program's results
Thank You

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Old 06/10/09, 8:19 PM   #5121
Myza
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Orc Rogue
 
Dethecus (EU)
Hello guys, i got a simple question which i cant answer myself cos i dont have the rogue spreedsheet right now.

Is "Rune-Etched Nightblade" (1,4 speed from Iron Council 10 man) 163 dps~
better than
"Remorse" (1,5 Speed from Razorscale 25 man) 178 dps~
?

Using Malice in the Main hand, which im still waiting for, but i got them both swords alrdy and i wanted to know which one of this i should enchant.

i would rly apreciate an answer,

/Myza

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Old 06/10/09, 10:30 PM   #5122
erdnusse
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Tauren Warrior
 
Ghostlands (EU)
i have a question that probly been answered before but:

as arms im using a HS build.
I have the 3 points in improved HS , instead of 2 on improved Slam.
I use the HS glyph.

What do i notice with this build:
My dps is about 4k ,depending on the fight i do a little more.
Its easier, when rage goes up from 50 i do a HS to keep it from going to waste.
I recover a lot of rage from glyph.
I get more mobility on moving fights. Dont need to cast slam and boss suddendly moves :P
WHat do u guys think?
I still keep the buff from the T8 set, i do a lot of HS on my fights so i get the haste plently of times.
Am I a nab to do this? I still havent tested slam rotation atm. I might give it a shot if i get flammed a lot here. Thx for ur time.

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Old 06/11/09, 12:05 AM   #5123
Thumper989
 
Orc Warrior
 
Shadowmoon
Ok guys this may be off the current subject and i dunno if this has been asked or not.

Ive heard alot of talk about other melee classes having some success with socketing ArP over their prime dps stat and i was curious if i should take into consideration taking out my +STR gems for +ArP gems. I dont know if this applies to warriors or not but i was curious if im looking at getting more dps from gemming ArP or Str. any advice is welcome

ok i actually see that i was on subject lol. I am also asking from the perspective of fury

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Old 06/11/09, 2:04 AM   #5124
Donkillme
 
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Saurfang
Originally Posted by Menestheus View Post
Here's your tip:

Go Affliction to provide ISB. Affliction and deep Destro are about equal in DPS, however you are giving up a whole bunch (10% mana usage meaning more time spent tapping as well as the SB cast every 30s) to provide it as Destro whereas Affliction provides it by doing the normal rotation.

Why would people bother to simulate your special snowflake spec/rotation when another one is clearly better? If you really want to find the answer you could easily download Simulationcraft and run it yourself. It even says to do this in the first post.
Ok, to make my question more specific, for fights like Hodir-hardmode, or Vezax (and some other), where the buffs heavily benefit Destro spec (as you can see from the top dps done on a lot of fights from wowmeteronline), would you still keep ISB up in Afflic spec? Or would you do more damage in these fights by keeping ISB in Destro spec? Sorry if it's "snowflake" to you, but I really feel underpower when doing Hodir-hardmode in Afflic spec.

I do notice that Oth is trying to simulate something similar, concrete results (well, in simulation at least) which prove that Afflic is always the better spec to keep ISB up would help a long way.

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Old 06/11/09, 2:59 AM   #5125
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Old 06/11/09, 3:24 AM   #5126
hellord
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Originally Posted by erdnusse View Post
i have a question that probly been answered before but:

as arms im using a HS build.
I have the 3 points in improved HS , instead of 2 on improved Slam.
I use the HS glyph.

What do i notice with this build:
My dps is about 4k ,depending on the fight i do a little more.
Its easier, when rage goes up from 50 i do a HS to keep it from going to waste.
I recover a lot of rage from glyph.
I get more mobility on moving fights. Dont need to cast slam and boss suddendly moves :P
WHat do u guys think?
I still keep the buff from the T8 set, i do a lot of HS on my fights so i get the haste plently of times.
Am I a nab to do this? I still havent tested slam rotation atm. I might give it a shot if i get flammed a lot here. Thx for ur time.
I'll reply bluntly. Yes you are. And you didn't read a single page in this discussion.
I suggest you to not use names like "HS build" (if you imply you took Imp HS) since everyone will take it instead of parry, that honestly doesn't contribute for our DPS. Nobody think to replace 2/2 imp slam since actually it isnt a decision.

HS Glyph is inferior for arms since you can only HS few times and the rage returns aren't really that great. You feel you have more rage only cause you aren't using it. Rending, Executioner and MS glyph are all superior, probably even bladestorm one is superior to HS in therms of DPS.

T8 2pc buff procs off slams more than HS for us, since the usage of the latter is very limited. You would have much more procs if you used slam and ofc much more DPS. 4k with T8 gear is just abysmall.

I can't really understand how did you think your dps could be ok, maybe you never saw a wws/wmo log of somebody doing barely decently as arms.

I'm just replying hoping that some other people can refrain from posting stupid question that aren't answered in the last page just cause they are so obvious that even a newbye player can figure out by himself.

The best suggestion I can tell you is learn to read. LK is out since 3 seasons and you didn't really ever talked, or read about the spec you are playing with. Put up your gear, go to a capital city with training dummies and for God sake go try to understand how your char works.

Ignorance is justifiable, lazyness is not.

ArP Whore

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Old 06/11/09, 4:07 AM   #5127
Bima
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Wildhammer (EU)
Originally Posted by trv186 View Post
You are using the wrong libram go do 2s for a little bit until 1350 and you can get the deadly one which is a nice upgrade

You are under the expertise cap while over the hit cap.

Beleive it or not 4 piece t7 is almost worthless for dps now. You are best off dropping all but 2 pieces of that and putting on gear with better stats if they are available..Zeliks gauntlets would be a nice buy for you help towards that expertise.

If you have mirror of truth it is actually better than Bandits Insignia

Make sure your gear has the best enchants available. For example haste is actually better on a cloak than agi now. get 44 attack power on bracers instead of 38

You may consider dropping herbalism as a profession for BS or JC if you are very serious about dps.

Would name a few of the things you can do. All of which could be read in the RET BIS thread or the front page of the Ret Megathread
The fact that the paladin has 4 % more crit than you can be due to a lot of factors. Just throwing on crit gear will not really solve your problem or could potentially hurt you more. Do you have a link to the other Ret's armory?
thx for the fast respone! this is his armor link The World of Warcraft Armory

Edit: I also got a wws report http://wowwebstats.com/tibo3qbne5gue

I hope u can help me

Last edited by Bima : 06/11/09 at 4:12 AM.

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Old 06/11/09, 4:08 AM   #5128
Phyton
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Moonglade (EU)
Originally Posted by Thumper989 View Post
i was curious if i should take into consideration taking out my +STR gems for +ArP gems. I dont know if this applies to warriors or not


Thumper that subject is all around fury, arms and spreadsheet threads....what am i saying... that subject is all around internet.

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Old 06/11/09, 4:28 AM   #5129
Zhengcl86
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Night Elf Druid
 
Nathrezim
i still dont understand how to fix the error....

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Old 06/11/09, 4:38 AM   #5130
cremor
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Blackmoore (EU)
Originally Posted by Zhengcl86 View Post
i still dont understand how to fix the error....
Try the search function of your text editor.

@Astrylian
The FAQ is in the middle of the version history, this should be changed maybe

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