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Old 06/13/09, 1:06 PM   #5206
Daefuin
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Rivendare
One minor question real quick, what do you in this situation:

Your judgement or divine storm comes or whatever else comes up .5-1s before your crusader strike. Do you wait the half sec to CS the instant is comes of cooldown, or do you ds/judge/etc and CS a second or so after it comes up due to GCD?

Looked around a little bit but couldn't find a solid answer.

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Old 06/13/09, 1:07 PM   #5207
vorda
Bald Bull
 
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Jaedenar (EU)
Originally Posted by Daefuin View Post
One minor question real quick, what do you in this situation:

Your judgement or divine storm comes or whatever else comes up .5-1s before your crusader strike. Do you wait the half sec to CS the instant is comes of cooldown, or do you ds/judge/etc and CS a second or so after it comes up due to GCD?

Looked around a little bit but couldn't find a solid answer.
I doubt that.

http://elitistjerks.com/search.php?searchid=2679786

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Old 06/13/09, 1:10 PM   #5208
Daefuin
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Rivendare
Originally Posted by vorda View Post
You know what they say about assuming. Thanks for the link though, I was mainly reading through the threads because I couldn't figure out what terms to search for. :p

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Old 06/13/09, 1:26 PM   #5209
Higinia
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Human Death Knight
 
Burning Blade
Okay...Im having trouble with the 51/0/20 Blood spec. I belive i know why but I'm not 100% sure.
In raids I use the rotation of IT PS DS HS HS dump DS DS HS HS dump
I dont know if its the greatest rotation but if its not id like to know a better one.
I also think on my dummy tests its because my necrosis is hitting for 1 and its bringing my dps down. Is that why? Are there any rotations that are better then mine because id like to know. Thanks.

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Old 06/13/09, 2:32 PM   #5210
Stealthpally
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Human Paladin
 
Ravencrest
Regarding Divine Sacrifice and HoP, would it be possible to HoP yourself instead of using DS and still mitigate the damage from the Sacrifice? This would be a better option due to HoP having a shorter more similar CD to Divine Sacrifice if being specd into the CD reducing talent.

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Old 06/13/09, 2:42 PM   #5211
Fafiq
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Death Knight
 
Burning Legion (EU)
How does MD work when I cast Volley? Does it just direct the first 3 ticks of threat? Or id doesnt work at all? I saw a funny tactic for soloing instances and raids. Sending Gorilla, MD it and Volley for additional threat. I'm wondering thats the mechanic of this action

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Old 06/13/09, 2:45 PM   #5212
Terlig
Von Kaiser
 
Dwarf Paladin
 
Defias Brotherhood (EU)
Originally Posted by Stealthpally View Post
Regarding Divine Sacrifice and HoP, would it be possible to HoP yourself instead of using DS and still mitigate the damage from the Sacrifice? This would be a better option due to HoP having a shorter more similar CD to Divine Sacrifice if being specd into the CD reducing talent.
Yes, it is working as i heard. Of course for incoming physical AoE damage.

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Old 06/13/09, 2:57 PM   #5213
Bowjo
Glass Joe
 
Orc Hunter
 
Stormscale (EU)
It does not work at all, u can easilly see it, get md up and volley without target, md stays up. so just md, multishot, and then start to volley.

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Old 06/13/09, 3:19 PM   #5214
Halstrom
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Human Paladin
 
Kilrogg
DS and BoP

Originally Posted by Terlig View Post
Yes, it is working as i heard. Of course for incoming physical AoE damage.
Which bosses or encounters would DS and BoP actually work? Plasma Blast and Frozen Blows warrent use of DS but are not physical damage. With General, Surge of Darkness is Physical damage so using Hand or Divine of sacrifice rotatin BoP and DS is very helpful.

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Old 06/13/09, 3:29 PM   #5215
Earl_Grey
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Wrathbringer (EU)
Originally Posted by Halstrom View Post
Which bosses or encounters would DS and BoP actually work? Plasma Blast and Frozen Blows warrent use of DS but are not physical damage. With General, Surge of Darkness is Physical damage so using Hand or Divine of sacrifice rotatin BoP and DS is very helpful.
Yes, Vezax does work, although you should ensure you have your cooldown(s) ready for DS+DiSac when the animus comes up. HoP is also safe to use during the Tympanic Tantrum on XT, Kologarn's shock wave or Thorim (not recommended for the hardmode due to the frost damage flying around). On pretty much all of the other bosses HoP+DiSac would be fatal or at least very risky.

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Old 06/13/09, 3:53 PM   #5216
Nygord
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Human Death Knight
 
Norgannon
I've been tanking for a few months now, my guild has all the keepers but Mimiron down in 25 man and I've noticed a pattern developing. When I tank, there is a specific hunter and mage that rides my butt when it comes to threat. It's not just me, though, it's all our tanks so that's why I've ignored it so long. Am I, or our tanks in general, doing something wrong for them to be this close to me/us? No other players are an issue but those two ride our butts in threat.

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Old 06/13/09, 4:41 PM   #5217
ksubi
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Draenei Shaman
 
Blackrock
Unsure on if this has been posted before but I was doing some Simming last night and everytime I go passed 10.60% haste the AEP value of it drops from ~2.5 to less than ~1.5. Is this a known "haste cap" for us?

Edit: I used 2.7 speed weapons when testing.

Last edited by ksubi : 06/13/09 at 7:25 PM.

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Old 06/13/09, 5:17 PM   #5218
Easton
Banned
 
Dwarf Paladin
 
Silvermoon (EU)
I dont know shit bout DK's so my question is; Whats the best pvp spec and what abillities are most basic?

Thanks in advance,
Noob

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Old 06/13/09, 8:58 PM   #5219
Palantiri
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Eonar
I can't thank you theorycrafters enough for all your hard work and number crunching. I have learned a tremendous amount from this thread and it has significantly changed how I have geared and played. I applaud you and keep up the good work.

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Old 06/13/09, 10:23 PM   #5220
odd
 
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Undead Rogue
 
Magtheridon (EU)
May i ask? if am i using a dagger with 1.80 speed as MH and one with 1.70 OF is that good? mutilate speced.

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