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10/02/09, 5:44 PM
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#8676
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Glass Joe
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I'm looking at the new dps spread sheet, and the rupture-free cycle and rupture cycle dont change my dps at all. Even in T8 gear or T9 gear. Is this happening to anyone else? On this spreadsheet i still see T8>T9.245.
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10/02/09, 6:35 PM
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#8677
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Blood Elf Death Knight
Defias Brotherhood (EU)
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Hey guys, from all these rotation examples and stuff i think i missed and can't find the most important question for me.
What are the optimal stats for an arcane mage? I've heard stuff to get like 2800 spell power and 700ish haste, ignoring crit, is that true? what are the optimal numbers and why?
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10/02/09, 7:00 PM
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#8678
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Karalius
Hey guys, from all these rotation examples and stuff i think i missed and can't find the most important question for me.
What are the optimal stats for an arcane mage? I've heard stuff to get like 2800 spell power and 700ish haste, ignoring crit, is that true? what are the optimal numbers and why?
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Well you're gonna want to have as much spellpower as possible. You can go Arcane at anypoint, don't need a certain amount of spellpower. Haste is all dependent on your mana pool really. On my mage raid buffed I have right at 31k mana and I have 812 haste rating. I could personally use some more haste to clean out the mana pool each boss fight. You should use a spreadsheet of some type to figure out the right amount of haste for your own mana pool. There is no optimal haste number. You want to convert as much mana into DPS as possible.
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10/02/09, 7:40 PM
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#8679
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Rogue
Blackwing Lair
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OH weapon speed
Hello I know a faster weapon in the offhand is better for combat for combat potency procs but my question is this:
How much less is a 1.5 vs a 1.4 weapon worth assuming they have the same dps. i know there has got to be a ep value placed on OH weapon speed but the only place i can find anything is on shadowpanther and i dont really trust it so much. TYVM for your time.
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10/02/09, 7:48 PM
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#8680
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Rogue
Blackwing Lair
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Hello I know a faster weapon in the offhand is better for combat for combat potency procs but my question is this:
How much less is a 1.5 vs a 1.4 weapon worth assuming they have the same dps. i know there has got to be a ep value placed on OH weapon speed but the only place i can find anything is on shadowpanther and i dont really trust it so much. ty
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10/02/09, 8:38 PM
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#8681
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Glass Joe
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Hi, is anonye able to work out the optimal rotation when Arcane power is up. I usually spam Arcane blast but this is costly on mana.
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10/02/09, 9:33 PM
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#8682
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Von Kaiser
Blood Elf Paladin
Shadowsong (EU)
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I've got to admit I love having massive amounts of gold, it makes wiping 20 times over in a raid somewhat painless (oh its just 200g, hohoho). Today I used up a few thousand gold to buy all the Books of Glyph Mastery for my inscription, just because I wanted to.
But a quite useful thing to do with lots of gold is attempt to buy drops in instances, in particular VoA, off other players (I'll give you 500g for that T8 piece) etc. Practice your haggling in a PUG environment.
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10/03/09, 12:56 AM
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#8683
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Von Kaiser
Souai
Orc Shaman
No WoW Account
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delete this
Last edited by Souai : 10/03/09 at 1:05 AM.
Reason: Probably would have broken "don't talk bout Anub"
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10/03/09, 7:03 AM
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#8684
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Banned
Tauren Death Knight
Arthas
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Well i see what you're saying. But It wasn't on a diff night, it was ToC 10 heroic and because our group is still having trouble with beasts, i actually did 6 fights with arpen gems and had agi gems in backback to swap and did ... and keeping rupture up was definitely a noticeable increase.
but hey i guess ill just blindly follow the spreadsheet no matter how uncomfortable that makes me.
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10/03/09, 8:02 AM
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#8685
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Aldriana
However, it's also worth noting that that gear list is relatively out of date - following the 3.2.2 ArPen nerf, axe setups will beat mace-dagger setups both for softcap/Mjolnir setups and straight hardcap setups. And a handful of the other slots change for related reasons. Hence, I wouldn't focus on that particular list too much - it's still not a *bad* setup, but there are decidedly better ones.
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Waiting patiently for a new BiS list for 3.2.2.
The new weapons with procs and ArPen nerf is really confusing.
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10/03/09, 8:18 AM
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#8686
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Hunter
Whisperwind
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Originally Posted by BPs
Well I updated it just a little, changed my buff bars and action bars a bit. Also I uploaded it for you guys ( download here). Its made for a 1680x1050 so you might have to play around with it. If anyone has questions just send me a PM. Here is a SS of how it looks now.
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Sweet, thanks!
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10/03/09, 8:31 AM
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#8687
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Piston Honda
Blood Elf Paladin
Doomhammer (EU)
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Originally Posted by The_Marsh
Source: Patch 3.3 Now live on PTRs
Another threat gen nerf? Personally, I don't believe that Ret is doing crazy amounts of damage at the moment, why bother nerfing? (I don't actually play ret, can anyone shine some light on this?)
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Tooltip correction only, to match SoV.
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10/03/09, 9:55 AM
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#8688
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Mavanas
It says in the table, it's for 3.2.2 BiS, so it does not mean you should gem AP in your gear. You need to be able to check what works better for your own gear. Also AP gemming only makes sense with weapon swapping.
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I seen the 3.2 BiS gear lists below:
Best In Slot
Aldriana's T9 BIS Gear List can be found here.
Aldriana's T8 BIS Gear List can be found here.
Mavanas' T8 BIS Gear List can be found here.
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However I could not find any 3.2.2 BiS gear list. Could you please link it as I can't seem to find it.
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10/03/09, 12:05 PM
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#8689
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Glass Joe
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The World of Warcraft Armory is my curent survival spec. I literally just replaced my helm and chest last night (got rid of my t8.5), so I don't know if this spec is still more viable than 0/15/56. I was messing around on femaledwarf and found that if I took Aimed Shot out and put 3/3 in improved stings, it would be a dps increase, but you need 15 points in MM to get improved stings. Now that my stings aren't doing 10% more damage, I'll have to run the numbers. Regardless, femaledwarf is showing me that taking out of resourcefulness or expose weakness isn't worth it for that extra improved stings point.
Scratch that last post. Since my gear change, 0/18/53 is a dps increase. Try it out, it's nice.
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10/03/09, 12:50 PM
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#8690
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Glass Joe
Human Death Knight
Auchindoun (EU)
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Originally Posted by Facebreaker
Delete your cache folder and see if it changes.
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hmm dunno i just installed the PTR but i wil try later + the buff didnt fade after 1min
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10/03/09, 12:52 PM
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#8691
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Glass Joe
Undead Death Knight
Shandris
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O that is on the PTR? It might have changed there, not sure.
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10/03/09, 1:30 PM
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#8692
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Glass Joe
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Trying to decide if I should get the BoE Mail healing chest crafted or stick with my Breastplate of the Frozen Lake.
74 Crit
24 Haste
9 Spell Power
Vs
45 MP5
20 Intellect
I'm leaning towards the crafted chest at the moment, guide me o' wise holy paladins.
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10/03/09, 1:53 PM
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#8693
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Piston Honda
Human Paladin
Azjol-Nerub (EU)
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Originally Posted by Dirtmcdirt
Trying to decide if I should get the BoE Mail healing chest crafted or stick with my Breastplate of the Frozen Lake.
74 Crit
24 Haste
9 Spell Power
Vs
45 MP5
20 Intellect
I'm leaning towards the crafted chest at the moment, guide me o' wise holy paladins.
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As always, use rawr. set it up how you like and bingo.. gear choices made easy. Apply alittle common sense here and there of course with regards to gear, rawr can show gains of afew HPS in different gear but chances are you wouldn't even notice that kind of gain in a real fight at which point go with whichever is easist to get.
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10/03/09, 2:02 PM
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#8694
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Mox
As always, use rawr. set it up how you like and bingo.. gear choices made easy. Apply alittle common sense here and there of course with regards to gear, rawr can show gains of afew HPS in different gear but chances are you wouldn't even notice that kind of gain in a real fight at which point go with whichever is easist to get.
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I would really love to but it won't install =/ Get some application error
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10/03/09, 2:43 PM
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#8695
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Mox
As always, use rawr. set it up how you like and bingo.. gear choices made easy. Apply alittle common sense here and there of course with regards to gear, rawr can show gains of afew HPS in different gear but chances are you wouldn't even notice that kind of gain in a real fight at which point go with whichever is easist to get.
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Recently, I'm finding that rawr is being weighted towards crit quite heavily. It's really just because it doesn't factor in overhealing, which would be very difficult to model effectively. So when it tells you that a crit/mp5 piece is better than a similar haste/mp5 piece, take a second to think about it before you follow it blindly.
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10/03/09, 2:44 PM
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#8696
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Glass Joe
Undead Death Knight
Shandris
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Yeah Vengeance still isn't in the DB yet, he's prolly working on it now.
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10/03/09, 2:45 PM
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#8697
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Glass Joe
Undead Death Knight
Shandris
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I just wanna say this thing has really helped out my dps in all sorts of ways, Thanks Zerack!
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10/03/09, 3:35 PM
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#8698
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Draenei Death Knight
Anvilmar
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advice on gemming and gear
This is my first post and I was wondering if anyone had any input on my set up and spec. Also, should i equip Spiked Battleguard Choker or Might of the Leviathan with the nerf to ArP since im still under hit cap? As far as wepons, should i stick with polearm i currently have or go back to using Edge of Ruin?
Last edited by masher : 10/03/09 at 3:40 PM.
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10/03/09, 6:37 PM
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#8699
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Glass Joe
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3.2.2 Verdict
So what is the verdict for 3.2.2?
Is flame shock back in for us? and which glyph do we replace?
Is Totem of Quaking Earth now the choice totem for 4p T9 instead of Electrifying Wind?
And has haste become the choice stat after hit/exp cap in 25 man raids?
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10/03/09, 7:16 PM
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#8700
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Banned
Gnome Death Knight
The Maelstrom (EU)
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missing 15 badges for the 4set. *Facetodesk*
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