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Old 06/15/09, 1:42 AM   #5251
Nikko
Glass Joe
 
Human Mage
 
Sen'jin
Thank you very much, i knew it was a stupid question.. but i was going completely blank. I totally forgot this list doesn't use movement speed for feet. Sorry for the wasted post.

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Old 06/15/09, 2:16 AM   #5252
nothing5805
 
Blood Elf Death Knight
 
Greymane
RE:

I've been tanking Ulduar 25 with a blood spec and we've got another DK tank running frost and we get absolutely stomped in the arena on thorim and this spec came up in discussion:

The World of Warcraft Armory


My question is is there any real merit to having a full set of death runes? The aoe spamming of BB seems like it might help but at the sacrifice of a lot of other talents? Worth it to try?

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Old 06/15/09, 2:48 AM   #5253
sobtainer
 
Human Mage
 
Burning Legion (EU)
Hello guys.

I have question. My guild do it Ulduar 25, but no Hard mode yet. I'm using Rawr and i have question about some items on my character.

The World of Warcraft Armory

Whats you think about my items? Hit cap in raid done, crit is preety to mutch imo, and haste to low. I don't have chance to take tier8,5 shoulders from Yogg Saron now, i think that shoulders from general is good for me. Mantle of the Unknowing - Item - World of Warcraft

Any suggest about my problems with haste?

Last edited by sobtainer : 06/15/09 at 2:59 AM.

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Old 06/15/09, 3:03 AM   #5254
Zurai
Bald Bull
 
Orc Death Knight
 
Whisperwind
There's absolutely no reason whatsoever to have 6 death runes simultaneously.

There's a very, very minor tactical flexibility in being able to turn any of your runes into death runes on command.

That flexibility is so minor that it's not generally considered worth the sacrifice. Even in the spec you posted, which is mostly reasonable, you'd be far better off putting the three points in Death Rune Mastery into Scent of Blood or 2H Spec + Anticipation.

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Old 06/15/09, 6:22 AM   #5255
Rowwenheze
Glass Joe
 
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Troll Mage
 
Bronze Dragonflight (EU)
Hey Sobotainer,

A good start would be to change to offhand to [Surplus Limb] But I doubt that you are raiding nax still. If you still got your T7,5 shoulders I would equip those. That would increase your haste with 80 but overall stats will be a bit less due to lack of spirit on the T7.5 shoulders.

The +23 haste cloak enchant instead of the lightweave embroidery could help you out aswell.

It's just trying out what will bring you the most dps in a raid.

Hit and crit should be sufficient, imo crit can't be enough as a firemage (as long as enough haste is in place ofc )

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Old 06/15/09, 7:19 AM   #5256
Sowyer
 
Undead Warrior
 
Frostmane (EU)
Arp or Strg

Hello Guys,

I have 41% Arp which is 510, and am using Grim toll.

According to Simple ArPen calculator ( Arp Calculator )

40.3% arp + some buffs is capped for bosses with 13083 armor ( All bosses in wotlk have this armor as highest )

the capped is 40.3% + battle stance + Faerie Fire + 5x Sunder Armor + Grim Toll proc.

Shall i just keep my Arp around 40.3% and start gemming for Strg since it capped, or just keep gemming for Arp.

Sorry for my bad English =>

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Old 06/15/09, 7:23 AM   #5257
Chiharu
Von Kaiser
 
Human Priest
 
<eon>
Anachronos (EU)
Originally Posted by Rowwenheze View Post
The +23 haste cloak enchant instead of the lightweave embroidery could help you out aswell.
Do not do this.

Lightweave is the best dps gain a mage can gain from a profession, and +23 haste is a woeful downgrade in dps terms, regardless of your current haste situation.

To put into context, Lightweave in my Rawr accounts for 141 dps, which is significantly higher than +23 haste, which I think sits at around the 30 - 40 dps mark.

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Old 06/15/09, 7:33 AM   #5258
Rowwenheze
Glass Joe
 
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Troll Mage
 
Bronze Dragonflight (EU)
Your true that the embroidery is the best dps enchant obtained by a profession !

Like he states he wants to increase his haste there for I mentioned the haste enchant, but looking at the downfall of dps when switching to the +23 haste it isn't a wise choice indeed.

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Old 06/15/09, 7:42 AM   #5259
ZeTodu
Von Kaiser
 
Human Warrior
 
Neptulon (EU)
Originally Posted by hellord View Post
I just prefer to waste 6% arp during proc and have slightly more damage the 80% of the time. With STR gems the damage out of the proc is lower and I have to rely on GT.

When I regemmed for STR, especially in short fights where you sometimes have 3 sometimes 4 procs, my dps was too spiky between attempts, while with arp gems I saw less difference in my performances.
Probably when I'll get 3-4% more arp from gear I'll swap back to STR and possibly out of a trinket with arp proc.
I saw many attempts during heart phase on xt where my uptime was under 6-7% and in that case I was losing dps for a key point in the fight.
There are other examples where you can't align its proc with a key phase and I don't think it's safe to just "hope" it will.

Anyway lately I'm using fury spec and with this gear I'm just under the softcap with arp food
To guy above me.

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Old 06/15/09, 7:56 AM   #5260
Sowyer
 
Undead Warrior
 
Frostmane (EU)
Originally Posted by ZeTodu View Post
To guy above me.
Thanks m8 =D

So i just keep gemming for Arp =>

Last edited by Sowyer : 06/15/09 at 8:03 AM.

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Old 06/15/09, 9:34 AM   #5261
sobtainer
 
Human Mage
 
Burning Legion (EU)
Originally Posted by Rowwenheze View Post
Hey Sobotainer,

A good start would be to change to offhand to [Surplus Limb] But I doubt that you are raiding nax still. If you still got your T7,5 shoulders I would equip those. That would increase your haste with 80 but overall stats will be a bit less due to lack of spirit on the T7.5 shoulders.

The +23 haste cloak enchant instead of the lightweave embroidery could help you out aswell.

It's just trying out what will bring you the most dps in a raid.

Hit and crit should be sufficient, imo crit can't be enough as a firemage (as long as enough haste is in place ofc )
Yes i have Surplus and i have 7,5 shoulders.
About my enchant on cloak, i never change him ;P. I think, that my rings/wrist and boots is gimp with haste rating.
I must think about this and take some items with haste now. Maybe this [Ironmender], i don't know.

Anyway, thanks for answer.

BTW
How you know that everyone called me Sobotainer? ;p i know you? ;p

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Old 06/15/09, 10:55 AM   #5262
Asmodeus999
 
Gnome Warlock
 
Die Todeskrallen (EU)
couple of questions (more or less simple)

Hi All,
first i wanted to thank you for this place and all the good information i got here so far.

As i dont have the time to read through all the latest threads i wanted to give it a try here:

1. The Specc nowadays:
I just loved to be affliction WL in Wotlk
The changes of no life leech dot and no immo any more (+ the fucking life tap glyph) made me switch to Destro
Destro keeps me on top of the meter, but i can see a very good WL fellow every now and then who comes close (but has less good gear).
-> Which Specc is the best regarding only damge/dps ? Destro or Affli (both without our 30 min puppy, i always forget it before the fight xD)
(if there is no difference between the speccs it was just me beeing lazy and not refreshing something)

2. Talent
the SL / ISL thingy in the Destro tree somehow irritates me. 5 Points for a bit of Refreshment (and less life taps) sounds not too good to me in these ulduar times (where we as DDs have to move too :p).
Is it realy worth it (regarding all the ulduar encounters like Freya, Hodir, Thorim, Yogg) or does it only save you a tap or two in encounters where you also would be able to tap without a dps loss?

Thanks in advance.
Asmodeus

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Old 06/15/09, 11:18 AM   #5263
Bonemage
Von Kaiser
 
Tauren Druid
 
Balnazzar
If there is a coruptor close to the crusher a Pally can interupt by using hammer of the rightous on the corupter. Hammer counts as a melee hit and the range for secondary targets is greater than the range for the first target. I believe a bear can do the same thing with swipe.

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Old 06/15/09, 11:32 AM   #5264
bfuk
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Death Knight
 
Chamber of Aspects (EU)
Originally Posted by kaisuki View Post
If you read the first post again, you'll realise that there is no second OB.
Dumb, yup, thanks, sorry

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Old 06/15/09, 12:48 PM   #5265
speeddemon
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Warrior
 
Dentarg
Has anyone tried 44/27? Frost going down to frost strike and unholy getting perma ghoul?
I also have a question. Does 20% attack power going to spell power talent, which attacks does it effect for the dk?

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