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Old 10/14/09, 3:05 AM   #8951
Goldengiff
Von Kaiser
 
Worgen Hunter
 
Tichondrius
Originally Posted by Suno View Post
Thanks very much to Fn for finishing the gear table up through ToGC. I'm been busy with work/vacation and such. It hasn't been entirely proofread, so feel free to provide any feedback.
Thank you and Fn for doing this. Could the table be updated to include the alliance versions of the items :P

much <3

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Old 10/14/09, 3:18 AM   #8952
Unscarred
 
Tauren Warrior
 
Spinebreaker (EU)
Originally Posted by landsoul View Post
Excel 1997/2003 Compatible
With less functionality, coming soon
Unfortunately due to certain restrictions of 1997/2003, I will have to reduce some of the functionality manually, which will takes a good deal of time. I will have to find some time to do it.
Please find some time. Realy need it! Thank you in advance.

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Old 10/14/09, 3:45 AM   #8953
Injez
Banned
 
Gnome Warlock
 
Король-лич (EU)
Originally Posted by Ewinessa View Post
Awesome math and facts to back up your answer buddy.

We all know shadow bolt beats incinerate currently for a meta/ruin build, but with a 15% buff to it's damage from MC (up from 10%), and maybe an additional 5% from incinerate glyph, it might actually be worth running some numbers to see if it is indeed more DPS on the long run to weave incinerate in during MC uptime, instead of dismissing it with a useless post.
Inci in demo? LOL. Leave Inci to Destro. (If somebody wants to put word about FG/EM, choose other thread - 0/41/30 is not "Demonology", it's an ugly hybrid spec for noobs).
In your "maybe-style maths" you forgot about Improved Shadow Bolt.

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Old 10/14/09, 4:52 AM   #8954
Kyrsa
Glass Joe
 
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Draenei Warrior
 
Darkspear
Quick question, I just got my first Trial of the Crusader weapon to drop for me tonight, missed out on justice bringer from regular 25 man 3 times because i wasn't in the raid when it dropped. Anyway, I picked up Reckoning from heroic 10 man, I have been using Aesir's Edge main hand and Stormrune edge off hand.

According to Landsouls spreadsheet I should main hand Reckoning, and off hand Stormrune, but it doesn't sound right to me, so I'm looking for some input on what others think. I also have two piece tier nine so I have two percent more critical strike from the set bonus.

Reckoning and Aesir's

2116 str 5603 atp 43.23% arp 42.77% crit

Reckoning and Stromrune

1938 str 5414 atp 43.66% arp 44.82% crit


So basically the trade off is strength and attack power versus a little bit of arp and two percent crit. Landsouls puts Stormrune at about 30dps more than Aesir's in the offhand.
Thoughts?

Last edited by Kyrsa : 10/14/09 at 6:12 AM.

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Old 10/14/09, 4:54 AM   #8955
Authopsy
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Garona (EU)
Hello!

I work with the combat 1.3 (beta4) spreadsheet and I tried to add my own gear to the sheet. I unhided the Gear's Page and added a line after the last ring. I then copied the line of another ring and pasted it in the line I created. I replaced the value and the name with my own ring's values but in the Rank row I get N/A and the ring isn't in the Equipement's Page.

Does anybody knows what I did wrong?

Thank you in advance!

(Sorry for my bad English I'm swiss )

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Old 10/14/09, 4:58 AM   #8956
paulsen
Von Kaiser
 
Human Rogue
 
Auchindoun (EU)
Originally Posted by Authopsy View Post
Hello!

I work with the combat 1.3 (beta4) spreadsheet and I tried to add my own gear to the sheet. I unhided the Gear's Page and added a line after the last ring. I then copied the line of another ring and pasted it in the line I created. I replaced the value and the name with my own ring's values but in the Rank row I get N/A and the ring isn't in the Equipement's Page.

Does anybody knows what I did wrong?
I had to do the same thing as you (adding T7), and I was told to not copy the first or last line. It worked for me.

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Old 10/14/09, 5:10 AM   #8957
MrTie
Glass Joe
 
Orc Warlock
 
Arak-arahm (EU)
Fake ?

Demonic pact

Increases your spell damage by 5%, and your pet's criticals apply the Demonic Pact effect to your party or raid members. Demonic Pact increases spell power by 10% of your Spell Damage for 12 sec. Does not work on Enslaved demons.
from MMO-chamion talent calculator

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Old 10/14/09, 5:12 AM   #8958
Profa
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Warlock
 
Burning Blade (EU)
Originally Posted by MrTie View Post
Fake ?

from MMO-chamion talent calculator
Its nothing new...

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Old 10/14/09, 5:13 AM   #8959
behamout
 
Human Warrior
 
Dragonblight (EU)
Strength Equivalency Points

Hello, i am new to the dps calculation sheet and i am having a bit of trouble with Strength Equivalency Points.

Now i know that its something that gives u an idea as to how much u benefit with more strength in relation to other stats. But i cant seem to understand how this works or how to read the table. I tried searching the forums but i couldnt find an explanation. (I might have missed it). If someone can explain how it works or can link another post, it will be really helpfull. And btw below are the stats from my sep values given.
Many thanks.

Console
Strength Equivalency Points
SEP= 1.700 DPS
STR 1.0000
2 AP 0.7576
Incriment: 20 AGI 0.8581
Rating Caps Crit 1.0345
from Hit -217 Hit 0.3792
from Exp -66 Haste 0.6596
from ArP 817 ArP 0.9044
from Crit 1121 ExP 0.0000

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Old 10/14/09, 5:41 AM   #8960
MrTie
Glass Joe
 
Orc Warlock
 
Arak-arahm (EU)
old :

Your pet's criticals apply the Demonic Pact effect to your party or raid members. Demonic Pact increases spell power by 10% of your Spell Damage for 12 sec. Does not work on Enslaved demons.
We have won Increases your spell damage by 5%.................uhm

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Old 10/14/09, 5:42 AM   #8961
Profa
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Warlock
 
Burning Blade (EU)
Originally Posted by MrTie View Post
old :

We have won Increases your spell damage by 5%.................uhm
Yeah, I mean it was in the previous PTR patch notes.

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Old 10/14/09, 5:49 AM   #8962
MrTie
Glass Joe
 
Orc Warlock
 
Arak-arahm (EU)
ok , Very nice boost for demono, if blizzard keep it.

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Old 10/14/09, 7:35 AM   #8963
Honks
Banned
 
Orc Hunter
 
Lightbringer (EU)
Is the Steady Shot glyph still bugged on Live??

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Old 10/14/09, 9:42 AM   #8964
MxBIZZLE
 
Gnome Rogue
 
Blood Furnace
what would be better to run as a main set up of daggers, 2x twin spike from reg toc 25m or would it be better to use the onyxia dagger for one hand because of the prox on it even though it includes no stats

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Old 10/14/09, 11:19 AM   #8965
Maped
 
Orc Shaman
 
Emeriss (EU)
Totem of Quaking Earth or Totem of Electrifying Wind ?

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Old 10/14/09, 11:50 AM   #8966
s1_one
Banned
 
Undead Warlock
 
Jaedenar (EU)
did anyone run simcraft with Black Magic instead of 63sp on the MH?

I'm curious to see the difference in terms of dps between those 2 enchants

im not sure how much would the haste on proc benefit for affli build once they release the glyph

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Old 10/14/09, 12:57 PM   #8967
Silmu
 
Tauren Death Knight
 
Kul Tiras (EU)
Great guide my DPS popped up with 500 :O





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Old 10/14/09, 1:03 PM   #8968
suffer
Von Kaiser
 
Tauren Warrior
 
Eredar
Originally Posted by behamout View Post
Hello, i am new to the dps calculation sheet and i am having a bit of trouble with Strength Equivalency Points.

Now i know that its something that gives u an idea as to how much u benefit with more strength in relation to other stats. But i cant seem to understand how this works or how to read the table. I tried searching the forums but i couldnt find an explanation. (I might have missed it). If someone can explain how it works or can link another post, it will be really helpfull. And btw below are the stats from my sep values given.
Many thanks.

Console
Strength Equivalency Points
SEP= 1.700 DPS
STR 1.0000
2 AP 0.7576
Incriment: 20 AGI 0.8581
Rating Caps Crit 1.0345
from Hit -217 Hit 0.3792
from Exp -66 Haste 0.6596
from ArP 817 ArP 0.9044
from Crit 1121 ExP 0.0000
It means the following (using your numbers):

1 point of agil = (is equivalent to) 0.8581 points of strength
1 point of crit = (is equivalent to) 1.0345 points of strength
1 point of hit = (is equivalent to) 0.3792 points of strength
and so on....

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Old 10/14/09, 1:11 PM   #8969
Septus
Piston Honda
 
Blood Elf Death Knight
 
Ravenholdt
Can anyone suggest the best way for me to weigh the different badge upgrades available to me, and see what is relatively better for its cost in badges?

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Old 10/14/09, 1:44 PM   #8970
glazed
 
Gnome Mage
 
Dalaran
Anguish vs Sharpened Obsidion Edged Blade

the 232 dps version of anguish vs the 255 dps version of the onyxia sword, which would be better for an arms warrior? im leaning towards the sword but was unsure due to sword vs poleaxe specs

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Old 10/14/09, 2:03 PM   #8971
Vonlego
Glass Joe
 
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Night Elf Rogue
 
Aegwynn
I'm not sure I'd give up the stats on Twin Spike -- A very good dagger -- for that proc. The dagger is more to show respect to the old 60 dagger, and not actually created to be overly effective.

There has been discussion on using that dagger with a weapon swap macro to keep the proc up. I am unsure if this works as originally envisioned.

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Old 10/14/09, 2:06 PM   #8972
MxBIZZLE
 
Gnome Rogue
 
Blood Furnace
yeah i was thinking about that because it doesnt seem like i do as much damage as i even did using icefall blade/golem shard stickler

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Old 10/14/09, 2:40 PM   #8973
Evilbunny
Von Kaiser
 
Human Death Knight
 
Zuluhed
Originally Posted by Silmu View Post
Great guide my DPS popped up with 500 :O
And it should continue to rise with practice. I've been reading this thread for a while and playing as a blood DK for longer. As you become more familiar with the rotation and when you can sneak in DCs and when to use DRW, you're DPS should keep climbing. A DK in my guild recently copied my spec and I gave him some pointers on it. His gear is a decent bit better than mine (~70pts on wow-heroes last I checked) and yet I still do 500-1000 DPS more. As he gets more practice with the spec he should probably catch up and eventually pass me.

The moral of the story: Doing things properly is good, doing those things well is even better.

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Old 10/14/09, 3:59 PM   #8974
Honks
Banned
 
Orc Hunter
 
Lightbringer (EU)
So can anyone please tell me if the SS glyph is still bugged please?

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Old 10/14/09, 5:44 PM   #8975
warscar
 
Orc Warrior
 
Hellscream
Man alot of info here,....
My question is I have 4 piece T9 and am wondering if I should go incite spec and regem to armor pen I am all STR gemmed atm.
I have a few pieces I can swap out to give more arm pen I.E. Bracers/belt boots.

I have always been told STR was the way to go but now not sure since I see alot of guys here with ARP.

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