Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 360

Jelac · 06/17/09, 6:20 PM

Originally Posted by Camey

I have spent hours trying to figure out why my DPS is low as an arcane mage. I've read forums after forums, talked to multiple mages and watched quite a few videos. Everything/everyone says my build is right, my rotation is right, I use the right glyphs and my spell power/crit etc. is correct. The only thing that seems to differ between people/forums is the haste. Some say it's not as important or some say its the second most, if not the most, important.
This is my character:
The World of Warcraft Armory

I've tried tweaking my build several times and have continued to upgrade armor. My DPS in a 25 man is usually about 3.5K, which is pretty low compared to what I've seen most full arcane mages do. So hopefully you can help me.

Please don't waste our time by asking for our help regarding PvE and then linking a character in PvP gear.

Steiner · 06/17/09, 6:49 PM

Hello,I have a quick question:

My rogue is combat ,has 3900AP and 41.17% crit (with cqc spec,Kalamity+Golem Sticker) .Yesterday I have taken Malice+Remorse.. Well ,Ap is quite the same with these two wep,but should I take sword specialization for 5% less crit?(so 36.17%)
Malice got a better dps (about 179,while kalamity got 171) but the Remorse is pretty similar to the dagger.

Thx in advance for answers.

MatsT · 06/17/09, 6:55 PM

Healing Stream totem is and has always been party wide.

csar · 06/17/09, 7:28 PM

so i read the chart in the dps compendium saying haste scales better than sp for 13-58 is this true?

Pasture · 06/17/09, 7:46 PM

Originally Posted by Camey

I have spent hours trying to figure out why my DPS is low as an arcane mage. I've read forums after forums, talked to multiple mages and watched quite a few videos. Everything/everyone says my build is right, my rotation is right, I use the right glyphs and my spell power/crit etc. is correct. The only thing that seems to differ between people/forums is the haste. Some say it's not as important or some say its the second most, if not the most, important.
This is my character:
The World of Warcraft Armory

I've tried tweaking my build several times and have continued to upgrade armor. My DPS in a 25 man is usually about 3.5K, which is pretty low compared to what I've seen most full arcane mages do. So hopefully you can help me.

Your haste is ridiculously low. I have 5 times that amount on my mage. Plus you're in some PvP gear and have bizarrely socketed your T8 gear with spell penetration....

Haste is important as Arcane. Every Arcane Blast I cast is about 0.5 seconds faster than yours. That's pretty huge.

Fizzlestick · 06/17/09, 8:03 PM

Hey, I was just wondering what the best class was to use Focus Magic on. I have heard that shadow priests are the best in terms of raid damage, however, I would just like to confirm if there is a "best" class to use for the buff.

Camey · 06/17/09, 8:56 PM

Originally Posted by Pasture

Your haste is ridiculously low. I have 5 times that amount on my mage. Plus you're in some PvP gear and have bizarrely socketed your T8 gear with spell penetration....

Haste is important as Arcane. Every Arcane Blast I cast is about 0.5 seconds faster than yours. That's pretty huge.

Yes, my PvP gear I did take account into. I have yet to win a roll for a good head/feet piece. The only reason for that gem was the ones I did really need; needed blue gems which I didn't have.

So hopefully, once I add some haste, everything will improve. I did however tweak my build slightly and got about 3k more DPS than what I had before.

jakejake · 06/17/09, 10:18 PM

There is a good chance I will be winning [Staff of Endless Winter] soon, and after I have that, I'm not sure where to replace my gear to have the 341 hit cap.

This is my armory The World of Warcraft Armory

I also have [Bracers of Unleashed Magic] that I can swap in for [Grasps of Reason]

If i swap the bracers out, I'll still be 3 hit points short of the cap, and have to gem the hit somewhere. Or, should leave the [Grasps of Reason] and just put 2 +16 hit gems somewhere?

Or does anyone see another viable change I can make? Maybe it'd just be better to keep my current setup and not take the staff?

I'm not sure what to do, can anyone help?

jakejake · 06/17/09, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by Fizzlestick

Hey, I was just wondering what the best class was to use Focus Magic on. I have heard that shadow priests are the best in terms of raid damage, however, I would just like to confirm if there is a "best" class to use for the buff.

Fizzlestick, this will answer your question. http://elitistjerks.com/f75/t42476-o...5/#post1274438

Heenk · 06/17/09, 10:54 PM

What is the difference between '10 player heroic' and 25 player?

Aylaz · 06/18/09, 1:19 AM

So i just broke my 2pT7 and i can assure u it hurts. I guess this is where the rein of arcane comes to an end

It gets edgy when it comes down to arcane vs fire/ttw and 4pT8.

Rocking 737 haste ( 800+ with the head piece from razor), still topping the meters..until all the other mages in guild get their 4pT8s.

MY question is, has any arcane mage gotten the 4pT8 yet and if so, what's the word on it? worth getting or just respec when u get the 4p?

P.S. For Hodir fight. definitely arcane because you have so much more control over your burst and threat its unimaginable. Average around 12.5k dps on hodir every time; no way possible for fire to get that close without pulling aggro unless chain salved.

Snidelyw · 06/18/09, 1:57 AM

Does anyone have any thoughts as to what would be the best spec for gimmick fights like Hodir and Vezax? Would it be easy for Simulcraft to model those? In both of those fights it seems that some of the 100% haste gets wasted on deep destro because Incinerate can't be pushed below the GCD so a Shadow Bolt build would be better because it can get the full benefit of that haste. Also, Hodir's Storm Cloud gives you a huge crit modifier, so I imagine a crit heavy build might be really good for that fight.

Darkgaia · 06/18/09, 3:51 AM

hi guys,.

Im expect, that if someone, create a definitily moonking Itemization, including Hard Modes Of Ulduar

I Have somes ideas but,,, im not sure that de piece that break T8.5 has the perfect.

Someone can post it?

Incluidin bonus T8.5 proc, Algalon etc, cycle def.

I think something like this chardev.org v6 ~ a World of Warcraft character planner

changin, eye of the brood mother for, Flare Of The heavens

Spellslinger's Slippers, for Boots of Fiery Resolution, and

Grasps of Reason as wrist, whit Constellus as primary weapon.

And the item that break de set is Leggings of the Enslaved Idol of Freya 25 Hard Mode.

What think??

thanks

danyson · 06/18/09, 7:12 AM

does anyone know what the perfect rotation would be for fury?

i use WW > SLAM > BT rotation. so that i dont loose slam procs. but it does not seem perfect.

Garlicsauce · 06/18/09, 7:37 AM

Originally Posted by jakejake

There is a good chance I will be winning [Staff of Endless Winter] soon, and after I have that, I'm not sure where to replace my gear to have the 341 hit cap.

This is my armory The World of Warcraft Armory

I also have [Bracers of Unleashed Magic] that I can swap in for [Grasps of Reason]

If i swap the bracers out, I'll still be 3 hit points short of the cap, and have to gem the hit somewhere. Or, should leave the [Grasps of Reason] and just put 2 +16 hit gems somewhere?

Or does anyone see another viable change I can make? Maybe it'd just be better to keep my current setup and not take the staff?

I'm not sure what to do, can anyone help?

This is the exact situation that Rawr Optimizer was made for. Throw all of your available items into it and it will give you an exact "Highest DPS" combination.