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Old 10/20/09, 12:17 PM   #9101
Avashnea
 
Draenei Paladin
 
Sentinels
Originally Posted by jeffason View Post
For the umpteenth time, the stat weights are here:

Warlock_T9_00_13_58
SP=1.58
Haste=1.27
Spi=1.01
Crit=0.96
Int=0.37

Posted many times in many threads. Do you see stamina on that list? No? Then it contributes ZERO to your DPS output as a destro lock (which is the thread you are posting in)
And how are you supposed to life tap with no HP?

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Old 10/20/09, 12:34 PM   #9102
Warlocomotif
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Human Warlock
 
Emerald Dream (EU)
Edit: screw this I'd just get an infraction for aiding stupidity. Comment deleted >.>

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Old 10/20/09, 12:37 PM   #9103
Richyc
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Dwarf Warrior
 
Greymane
Richycwarr is the warr. shoot me a msg. thanks

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Old 10/20/09, 12:49 PM   #9104
kurzio
 
Human Rogue
 
Elune (EU)
I have a question concerning the new weapons dropped by onyxia.

I didn't find them on the sheet, so I suppose they aren't worth it. But who knows ? ^^

So, I have Lion's Maw (232) in MH, would Raging Deathbringer (245) or Tempered Vis'kag the Bloodletter (245) be a better MH weapon for a classical 15/51/5 build ?

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Old 10/20/09, 1:30 PM   #9105
Yuntiff
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Night Elf Rogue
 
Stormrage
It has generally been found that the lack of stats, in conjunction with the low proc rates, has put even 226 item level weapons above the new onyxia weapons. It seems like they were implemented more for sentimental value than for viability.

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Old 10/20/09, 2:02 PM   #9106
LordOverkill
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Blood Elf Mage
 
Balnazzar
I am very new to playing an elemental shaman and have not raided at all. I have done a couple 5 mans so I understand a few of the basics. I was wondering the subjects listed below. I am finishing my powerleveling at the moment and want to become a hardcore raider who also do 2v2 and 5v5 Arenas in their spare time. I don't want a cookie cutter build that will do both but a solid DPS build for raiding and I will dual spec for either healing or PvP. My guess is I will end up Resto for PvP. My questions are:

Talents:
After I start out should I use my talents for DPS or hit? I have read that there is like an 11% hit needed for horde... Some of it should be through talents but I am still unsure as to how much is actually appropriate. If you have the gems at the trainer in Dalaran which ones should i use?!?!? I suck at math which is why I want to know if there is an dthat can do this for shamans. I saw something like this when I was reading the Warrior section but was unsure if it was warrior specific or if I could use the same for my shaman. Is there a build I should use so I don't have to keep respeccing. Also is it better to go for hit in talents or Gems? I would thing talents because u get more SP, haste, and int from your gems than talents. Help me out here. I'm reading it on the forums but it's just not "spelled out and is being done wrather than being said why... is this it?!??!!?

Gems:
I know the +23SP and the +12Sp/5MP5 are awesome and I hear haste is gonna be king really soon. Are there any other gems I should learn to send to my Shaman? I also will start learning the design for haste since I see it is heavily talked about in the forums and have read in the 2.3 patch that haste is extremely important. I have a Alchemist also so I'm not worried about buying gems. I will just make more. I just need to understand why I am gemming the appropriate piece of gear. This leads to...

Add-ons:
What addon should I be using to monitor my stats and dps? I like charts and it inspires me to make my own and show people that I'm not only serious about what I'm talking about but I have physical proof of what I mean which can also be used to a tool to improve my game play.


Thanks!

Edit: I saw a lot of info on other forums located on EJ and got a couple messages as well. I'm not trying to get infractions... I just didn't look in the right place for the info I needed... I saw there was a tool for gear/gem selection in the warrior threads... Not sure if this works for shaman as well but will try it out. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction (those of u who did). I also just learned about the TTT.

I no longer need help with this issue. All of my questions have been answered. Thanks to everyone on EJ! Your advice is greatly appreciated and the information will not goto waste!

Last edited by LordOverkill : 10/20/09 at 11:03 PM.

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Old 10/20/09, 3:11 PM   #9107
Katsira
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Thrall
Originally Posted by Tweed View Post
Well, WoW won't quite load for me tonight (grr patch night), but that reminded me that I wanted to post some UI screenshots. Here's my updated UI!
Tweed, do you have an upload of this somewhere? Thanks!

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Old 10/20/09, 3:51 PM   #9108
guirsp1
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Gorgonnash
Originally Posted by Iru View Post
Three comments:

Explicit spell ranks in macros are bad as you'll forget they're there come expansion time

The /castsequence in the Steady Shot macro is pointless - Auto Shot will trigger as soon as you fire any shot at the target and is unbound from special attacks so you don't need to keep firing it.

The pet Kill Command should appear ahead of the hunter shots in the SV macros as those shots will trigger the GCD preventing the pet command from occurring even though it doesn't use a GCD itself.
Thank you Iru,
could you check if the macros are correct now.

Survival Macros:


#showtooltip Explosive Shot
/console Sound_EnableSFX 0
/script UIErrorsFrame:UnregisterEvent("UI_ERROR_MESSAGE");
/cast [target=pettarget, exists] Kill Command
/cast Explosive Shot
/console Sound_EnableSFX 1

#showtooltip Black Arrow
/console Sound_EnableSFX 0
/script UIErrorsFrame:UnregisterEvent("UI_ERROR_MESSAGE");
/cast [target=pettarget, exists] Kill Command
/cast Black Arrow
/console Sound_EnableSFX 1

Marksmanship Macro:

#showtooltip Steady Shot
/script UIErrorsFrame:Hide()
/cast [target=pettarget] Kill Command
/cast Silencing Shot
/cast Steady Shot
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear(); UIErrorsFrame:Show()

Last edited by guirsp1 : 10/20/09 at 4:02 PM.

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Old 10/20/09, 4:03 PM   #9109
Jugg300
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Undead Mage
 
Baelgun
Edit: Deleted dumb question, found the answer myself..

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Old 10/20/09, 5:21 PM   #9110
ve3oky
 
Undead Death Knight
 
Icecrown
I've been using this thread to get gear ready for my mage as I level her. I would like to know what you all recommend for Gems and Enchants, or another way of asking it, pre raid, what should my stats be like??

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Old 10/20/09, 5:34 PM   #9111
Terryn
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Rexxar
ah figures haha. My guilds been locking our instance for the past few weeks due to yogg0 attempts, so i guess i just need to get into a pug of some sorts on my alt D:


gonna try the lake farming spot though later to check results.

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Old 10/20/09, 9:25 PM   #9112
SnowMadara
 
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Blood Elf Rogue
 
Blade's Edge (EU)
Guys offtopic but i wanted to ask,how much hit raiting and expertiserogue should have? Cheers

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Old 10/20/09, 11:13 PM   #9113
listerfyne
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Magtheridon
Hello, since last past I have seen a dps drop as ret. In the last few weeks i have gained from 3pc t 8.5 to 232 4pc t9.5. I use the fcfs j>cs>ds>cons>exo and am gemming correctly I believe. It just seems I can not gain no matter how many new drops I get. Here is my armory The World of Warcraft Armory

Any ideas to help my dps, I'm in the 5k range, alil below and above. I know since the last patch a slight dps drop is due to the fact that I have a prot tank.

Thank you.

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Old 10/20/09, 11:55 PM   #9114
 frmorrison
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Ashstorm
Human Paladin
 
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Originally Posted by listerfyne View Post
Hello, since last past I have seen a dps drop as ret.

I know since the last patch a slight dps drop is due to the fact that I have a prot tank.
Assuming 0 gear changes between 3.2.2 and 3.2 and if you had ArP gear, you would see a dps drop due to the ArP nerf.

Anyway, I just checked a parse this week and last week and I had 100 dps less this week compared to last week with 0 gear changes and similar kill times, that is because of RNG and that is not a cause for concern.

With 3.2.2 it doesn't matter if you have a Prot Pally around, your dps depends on your SoV stacks on the mob.

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Old 10/21/09, 2:02 AM   #9115
Camilo
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Human Mage
 
Hyjal
Originally Posted by Ehooee View Post
Do people ever post their key bindings...ie E for fireblast etc. I know I have, and others may as well, find it beneficial to see what people do with their fingers. Muscle memorization is 1 part, but smart layout is another.
I use Shift-T for blink, Numpad 3,2,1, for CD's, G for Evocation, T for blizzard, and Ctrl-T for PoM.

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Old 10/21/09, 3:01 AM   #9116
angelamaria
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Human Mage
 
Dath'Remar
Originally Posted by Ehooee View Post
Do people ever post their key bindings...ie E for fireblast etc. I know I have, and others may as well, find it beneficial to see what people do with their fingers. Muscle memorization is 1 part, but smart layout is another.
Oh, this is certainly something I'd love to find out as well. I'm looking for ideas on how to manage my keybindings. I've a friend who have all the "usual" keybindings set to a modifier+key, so he can use R for attacks and stuff; not entirely sold on that (yet) however.

I play on a MacBook, so I don't have a whole lof of options for the keyboard; I have a Razer DeathAdder. Movement buttons remain as they are. Currently (from memory)--

1 - Wand
2 - Arcane Blast
3 - Arcane Missiles
4 - Arcane Barrage
5 - Blizzard
6 - Arcane Explosion
7 - POM+Flamestrike macro
8-= - probably scorch or frostbolt or whatever. I obviously never really press these buttons, they're too far away.
C - Blink
` - used to be bound to Mana Shield; I'd forgotten if I changed it out to something else though.

Button4 and Button5 on the mouse can change depending on which panic buttons I need, but generally they are set to:

Button4 - Counterspell
Button5 - Ice Block

I have modifiers set for both mouse buttons but I honestly find I can't remember them enough to use them :/


Would love to see what others are doing

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Old 10/21/09, 3:19 AM   #9117
seanrich
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Gnome Mage
 
Stormrage
My left hand rests on and uses wasd for movement, like a FPS.
` is decurse
1 is blink
2 is fireblast
3 is arcane explosion
4 is frost nova
5 is trinket/escape artist (i'm a gnome)
q is ice block
shift-q is cold snap or blast wave so pretty much never used
e is cone of cold or dragon's breath, depending on spec
r is main attack, Arcane Blast, Fireball, Frostfire bolt or Frostbolt (all macro'd with like combustion, trinkets, engineer gloves, etc...)
shift-r is secondary attack Arcane Missiles or Scorch or Water Elemental+freeze macro
f is counterspell
shift-f is spellsteal
z is flamestrike+pom macro
x is blizzard+arcane power macro
v is polymorph (i made nameplates alt+v and ctrl+v)
shift+v is focus target
g is mount
t is reply to tells
On my mouse I have four buttons besides left (button 1) and right (button 2)click.
button 3 is autorun
button 4 is arcane barrage, living bomb, or ice lance
button 5 is presence of mind+mirror images+arcane power macro, or ice barrier
button 6 is slow, or pyroblast, or fireball

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Old 10/21/09, 6:07 AM   #9118
Ring0
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Orc Mage
 
Auchindoun (EU)
There's not much point to posting one's individuals binds as everyone will prefer different combinations. However there are a few rules of thumb such as keeping often-used or critical abilities easy to press and having all your keys being accesible with one hand.

After that it's a matter of planning out how you'll lay out your abilities and committing it to muscle memory.

For example, writing off the top of my head:

` - Mana gem
1 - Arcane Blast
2 - Arcane Barrage
3 - Arcane Missiles
4 - DPS macro (Icy Veins + AP + consumables and trinkets + /cast Arcane Blast)
5 - Blink
S+1 - Blizzard
S+2 - Flamestrike
S+3 - Fireball
S+4 - Frostbolt
S+5 - Frostfire Bolt
Tab - Spellsteal

W, A, S, D - Movement.

Q - Ice Block
E - Counterspell
R - Frost Nova
T - Racial ability (Arcane Torrent)
F - Fire Blast
G - Polymorph (also doubles as a /focus macro)
Z - Evocation
X - Presence of Mind

S+Q - Arcane Intellect (for in-combat buffing)
S+W - Molten Armor
S+E - Ice Barrier/Mana Shield
S+R - Cone of Cold
S+A - Wand
S+S - Arcane Explosion
S+D - Slow Fall (self)
S+F - Ice Lance
S+G - Ice Armor
S+Z - Mirror Images
S+X- Invisibility

C+Q - Fire Ward
C+W - Mount
C+E - Frost Ward
C+D - Non-combat pet
C+T - Clear focus target

Mousewheel up - Nearest enemy target
S+ left-click - Decursing
S+ right-click - Slow fall
C+ left-click - Focus Magic
C+ Right-click - Arcane Intellect
A+ left-click - Amplify Magic
A+ right-click - Dampen Magic

For Fireball and Frostfire not much changes:

1 - Frostfire Bolt
2 - Living Bomb
3 - Pyroblast
X - Blast Wave
S+2 - Dragon's Breath
S+3 - Flamestrike
S+4 - Arcane Blast
S+5 - Arcane Missiles
S+R - Scorch
Mousewheel down - Living Bomb mouse-over macro.

Frost follows the same:

1 - Frostbolt
2 - Water elemental (doubles as Freeze button when elemental is out)
3 - Fireball

Any defaults were changed to shift variations, so for example show interface is S+`, zoom in is S+mousewheel up, etc.

Last edited by Ring0 : 10/21/09 at 6:15 AM.

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Old 10/21/09, 9:01 AM   #9119
inos
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Human Warlock
 
The Sha'tar (EU)
guys with this molten core - dont you think that Demo locks should use now inci instead of SB ?

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Old 10/21/09, 9:48 AM   #9120
MrWilson
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Tauren Shaman
 
Gorgonnash (EU)
Any HEP reports on the 4P T9 bonus available?

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Old 10/21/09, 12:33 PM   #9121
Grawknar
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Undead Rogue
 
Daggerspine (EU)
Are Executioner enchants a better choice over Berzerking if not armorpen soft-capped?

Last edited by Grawknar : 10/21/09 at 12:43 PM.

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Old 10/21/09, 1:17 PM   #9122
Klemenp
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Suckitnerds
Troll Death Knight
 
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Was just wondering, whats better 4ptT9 or 2ptT8.5 + 2pt T7.5

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Old 10/21/09, 1:19 PM   #9123
Klemenp
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Troll Death Knight
 
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Was just wondering, whats better 4ptT9 or 2ptT8.5 + 2pt T7.5

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Old 10/21/09, 1:21 PM   #9124
magealexis
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Blood Elf Mage
 
Ner'zhul
Originally Posted by Klemenp View Post
Was just wondering, whats better 4ptT9 or 2ptT8.5 + 2pt T7.5
This is fairly simple to check with Rawr...

In any case, 4 piece t9>2t8.5+2t7.5
2t9+2t8>4t8
4 piece t9> 2t8+2t9

(Please note that this is just what rawr told me, for the gear I had available, with my spec, etc, etc. It may be different depending on which pieces you're looking at, and which ilvl tier pieces, what pieces they'd be replacing, etc.)

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Old 10/21/09, 1:42 PM   #9125
Tsasux
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Troll Mage
 
Mok'Nathal
same as above, have 4 set 9.25 . wanting to go back to ttw/fb . but between the lack of HR on the tier pieces, staying with arc atm .. am i wrong?

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