Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 366

twicedead · 06/19/09, 7:46 AM

Since from start I've always used a blood tanking spec despite everyone saying that it sucked big time.

Accordingly to what i've read across the forum, I started to see some comments about blood being great atm.

Can you give me some info on this?

Also, what is the current frost tank spec and glyphs? Im just considering trying a different spec or keep my blood one.

Emi · 06/19/09, 8:00 AM

Originally Posted by twicedead

Since from start I've always used a blood tanking spec despite everyone saying that it sucked big time.

Accordingly to what i've read across the forum, I started to see some comments about blood being great atm.

Can you give me some info on this?

Also, what is the current frost tank spec and glyphs? Im just considering trying a different spec or keep my blood one.

Forget about using search how about if you actually read the thread titles on this forum ? If you had, you'd see one convenientely called "Suno's Fireside Chat - DK Endgame Tanking (Updated)" ...

GBF · 06/19/09, 8:40 AM

Originally Posted by Missgunst

What I find disturbing is that you'll play DD or Tank in the same style. Cooldowns won't be rotated anymore, just be reactive because you won't always have one ready. So you will just play your rotation, like you do as DD, and hope nothing ownes you.
Every other class plays different with alternate speccs, only DK will be hitting the same buttons over and over again, I really think that's the worst thing for me.

This, and the fact that they just completely ignored Unbreakable Armor are the worst for me. DPSing in blue stance has never been fun, but now it will actively be a chore. I feel like they rushed the notes out before even considering how godawful Unbreakable Armor was. I mean, it was bad before potential nerfs, but after? 5% armor loss hurts it even further, and the talent honestly needs a complete overhaul... Again.

My kneejerk reaction is despair, even though in the back of my head I know that most of these changes won't make it to live. They're just too sweeping. Everything got hit, and then they nerfed threat on top of that (Frost Strike was already lackluster for tanking due to competition for resources with Rune Strike, but now it can be parried and dodged? Gee thanks). I guess we'll see.

twicedead · 06/19/09, 8:55 AM

I dont see how your answer helps or gives me a direct reply.

Reading across the forum means I've read many of the threads and posts on the forum, using search to find a specific answer when you have specific threads its just stupid and everyone knows or should know that.

I may be new to the forum but making an assumption that by being new here Im a total noob it just unrespectfull towards me or others on my position.

If this is not the place to share doubts and look for some answers then I should be looking elsewhere.

When I signed up I was hoping that elitist would be more meaningfull than jerks, but maybe I was wrong.

Rakiel · 06/19/09, 8:59 AM

Originally Posted by twicedead

I dont see how your answer helps or gives me a direct reply.

Reading across the forum means I've read many of the threads and posts on the forum, using search to find a specific answer when you have specific threads its just stupid and everyone knows or should know that.

I may be new to the forum but making an assumption that by being new here Im a total noob it just unrespectfull towards me or others on my position.

If this is not the place to share doubts and look for some answers then I should be looking elsewhere.

When I signed up I was hoping that elitist would be more meaningfull than jerks, but maybe I was wrong.

Because right in the thread title it gives the referrence to the fact it may have specific information on DK tanking in the end game, as opposed to a generalized discussion. Its a direct reply because it tells you where to get the information you were looking for, which is simply a few threads down on the main page.

The reason the search function gets so vaunted is because as a forum with a specific topic; invariably, people are going to be asking the same thing a lot of the time. Over and over and over. Till anyone that is infact a regular of the forum starts to get a knee jerk reaction to punch them in the face when they've answered the same simple question fifty-eight times just because no-one actively searchs for the response themselves.

Izaul · 06/19/09, 9:09 AM

Starfox just a fyi your chardev template is wearing two times pyrelight circle's they are unique-equip. Not that big of a deal but just to inform you.

twicedead · 06/19/09, 9:15 AM

I've read the thread, I said I did read across the forum.

The thread only states that blood now is good, I just wanted to know how good, just simply that.

Also I've seen so many frost specs across the forum that I just wanted a more precise direction.

Besides my reaction was about how Emi replied, he could have just said "visit this thread and take all the builds there as up to date" that would do honestly.

dukes · 06/19/09, 9:15 AM

Originally Posted by Izaul

Starfox just a fyi your chardev template is wearing two times pyrelight circle's they are unique-equip. Not that big of a deal but just to inform you.

It doesn't really make a difference:
[Pyrelight Circle][Signet of Manifested Pain]

Izaul · 06/19/09, 9:17 AM

Originally Posted by dukes

It doesn't really make a difference:
[Pyrelight Circle][Signet of Manifested Pain]

Like I said it was just an fyi

Xaleva · 06/19/09, 9:24 AM

Rogues getting axes next patch, Using the same Talent as sword spec for the % chance of an extra hit.

With the higher top ends of axes then swords is this gonna be the new rogue spec to take in 3.2???

Im pretty new to being a rogue, I played as one in vanilla. Then turned Warrior TBC and then DK in Wotlk (Like every other person) so still need a little guidance.

Recently gone rogue and am very happy with my decision. Being able to kick out enough damage/DPS to be consistantly top of the charts. My guild are a strict 10 man raiding guild. Not even allowing use of 25 man item drops with an iLvL over 219. Making our 10 mans that little bit more challenging. Our current 10 man strict status is first on server.

Any help or advice on me being able to do that little bit extra in 10 mans would be much obliged.

Regards,
Reks / Twist of Faith / Aszune.

Xaleva · 06/19/09, 9:36 AM

This helped a hell of alot while i was gearing up my rogue Tyvm. Have had to go into Imp poisens for now untill i get a little better gear to accomodate for it, But my dps is not bad. At a rough 5k dps in 10 mans single target.

I still seem to be missing alot though. I got my poisen hit cap, DOnt know what else could be doing it.

tImmy88 · 06/19/09, 9:50 AM

Best profession for a tank Deathknight? Jewelcrafting and enchanting? But i heard that jewelcrafting will be nerfed? Blacksmith is also good. Second spec will be unholy dps and sometimes i play arena pvp.

helmerzinho · 06/19/09, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by Daind

Am I doing something wrong here or are T7 legs really this good?

Legguards of Cunning Deception (leather) SEP: 322.5
Proto-hide Leggings (leather) SEP: 287.3
Valorous Dreadnaught Legplates (plate) SEP: 278.8 - T7.5... wat
Saronite Mesh Legguards (mail) SEP: 276.7
Clockwork Legplates (plate) SEP: 271.5

This is with the SEP calc cell changed to use the 108 armored to the teeth instead of 180.

Edit: This is fury by the way, not arms.

Nope works wonders. T8 is overrated or as many would say only considered a stamina upgrade :p

I use Conquerors atm, but only cz i need the stats they have. as soon as i can juggle my gear around im on Valerouse until i can get proto hide leggings...jummy..

also i find that the Bonus from t8 sucks... id aim for atleast to keep 2 valerouse items for that nice bonus.

GJ m8!

hunting grim toll tomorrow!

Pattison · 06/19/09, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by tusaki

Hodir: just normal destruction is fine, I don't think you'll get that much more (if at all) by going shadowbolt.

Vezax: Probably something like this:
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warl...0&version=9947

Its basically a demonology build which uses the imp, without the felguard and mana feed. The reason for this being that the imp benefits from standing in a crash (!) and regens mana normally . Also, this means that you can use the shadowbolt glyph and soul fire (cheap spell, mana wise! (9% base mana, compared to 17% for shadow bolt and 14% for incinerate, 7% chaos bolt, 17% immolate)).

tbh, I got a vezax hard mode kill (25 man) being just destruction with a twist. (took points from the mana regeneration and put them in affliction / improved curse of weakness because our arms warrior complained he couldn't get the 5 points in improved demoralizing shout and reach his 'must have' talent points). Wanded the last bit of vezax down

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I wouldn't use that spec as vezax, this spec is much better - Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

Thats the spec that I used for HM vezax.

Ignayshus · 06/19/09, 2:56 PM

tbh, shaman look like better tank healers now to me, better than disc priests or holy paladins.

I just don't see how druids are balanced, but priests were op, and I'm curious to see if we've only seen a few of the major changes.