My guild is more "casual" though all dps are 5000+ dps in all fights with top 10 being above or near my dps.

In my current gear I pull:

6k+ on Beasts

7.5k+ on Jaraxxus [I cleanse Fel Fireball interrupt fails]

6k+ on Faction Champs

10.5k+ on Twins

6k+ on Anub [Melee is NOT allowed to touch white scarabs in our guild helps keep down spawns ]

I obviously don't know how to play don't listen to me LOL.

Edit: The casualness of my guild = 1 - 1.5 hours each week to do Toc 25 and Ony 25. That is all we do as a guild and the rest of the week is yours to do whatever you want to. We are basically made up of Alts/Altaholics so it works well for us.

Like i said though, don't listen to me I don't know what im doing

I disagree with your view of how you are using "effective dps" as the basis of your priority decisions.You have your opinion I have mine.

Being petty and calling for a Banhammer? Really now.

BTW I am well aware of my current expertise of 38 and NOT AT ALL happy with it, but that is how the drops panned out for me. For one, I unfortunately am still running around with Worldcarver for a weapon. I don't enjoy PvP in WoW so that's what I got for now.

The answer is 42.

First post!

I have been searching for a good discription about "Ranged Crit" but I cannot seem to find one. Im sure I have over looked it.

My Ranged Crit seems very low (11.39%) But my Melee seems a little to high. Beining a caster I would think my ranged Crit would need to be higher? I think somehting is a little backwards. Im not sure if it is a gear thing or what?

Can someone point me in the right direction or help me get a better understanding of why mine is so low?

Thanks!

My first post here. Quick question regarding best trinkets that are obtainable. Currently I am using the [Reign of the Unliving] (non-heroic version, sorry could not fix this) and [Embrace of the Spider]. Ignoring hard mode H TOC and H Algalon and H Yogg, what is the best trinket in game to replace [Embrace of the Spider]?

You should be looking at Spell crit, not ranged crit.

Ah, that explains it. Thanks for clearing that up - and for your swift reply.

Thank you so much. I'll check them out.

So is the basic rotation for arcane AB until missile barrage proc then arcane missiles?

Thanks all really appreciate the help, i'll probably follow pinkshirtbadman's advice on weapon combo.

Once again thanks to all!

Here is my armory:
The World of Warcraft Armory

I have been told that my dps is really low for my GS level. I have tried to fix it many times by tweaking my rotation a little bit but my dps has only gone up slightly. I do anywhere from 4.5 to 5.2 dps..What is hindering my dps?

My rotation is:
FF, Moonfire, IS, wrath til lunar eclipse then starfire til that eclipse ends...

now here is where I have changed. I used to stop my starfire if I didn't have enough time to finish the cast before the eclipsed ended. I was told to stop doing that and let my cast go fully. I also keep my dots up and never let them drop. Where am I going wrong?

You've two terrible trinkets for a moonkin. Haste procs only benefit you when you're casting Starfire when you're over the haste cap* meaning that when that trinket pops and you're casting anything else you're not getting a dps boost. You want trinkets that proc Spellpower. Abyssal Rune and Sundial of the Exalted are easy to get.

Read this very carefully: http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t66856-moonkin_pve_dps/

*Not strictly true but true enough for this context.

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also, you really have to rework your gemming. most of the socket bonuses you have really aren't worth the it. it would most likely be a dps gain if you regemmed for straight spell power except for two purified dreadstones (or the stamina one if you want more health) for the meta gem bonus. the only time you should gem for a bonus is if it's +9 spell power, or possibly +7 spell power at times.

didn't even notice your first trinket. hit rating trinkets are a waste of dps in so many ways, considering you can gain hit rating from many other resources.

hi guys this is the first time i write here....i'd like to have some advices on my moonkin set and future improvement

as you can see i have 2t8 and 2t9 my rotation is right (i know i have to replace blue gems with epics and enchant feets XD)

well now i have in may bag ready to use [Cloak of Displacement][Bracers of the Autumn Willow][Stormrage Crown] and i'm waiting for [Polished Dragonslayer's Signet]

with my guild i can loot items from toc 10(575)and 25(4/5.....anub in near to death hopefully) ony 10-25...ulduar 10 (some HM-no algalon) and 25 and previus raid

i have about 140 [Emblem of Triumph]

so my normal dps is between 4.5k and 6k but i think i can do better with some upgrades but i really need some help because i know i can make some big error...i'd like to know which is the best stats in my situation and what are the best upgrades

ty for patience

well for now ty i will wait for some answer......

Karbunkle, I suggest you play around with Rawr and see what it can tell you with various gear configurations and raid buffs.

Thank you for posting, since I just respecced from elemental to enhance for groups and raids I can factor my numbers a little better. I do have a question though, does anyone happen to know base hit rate for enhance shammy since they dual weild. Thanks,
Shirilia (80 Enhance shammy ) KOSH- Duskwood server

are you remembering to include full raid buffs when you calculate stuff in rawr?

Everyone does, it's written 5 times on this page of this thread for a start, try using your eyes.

Have any1 tryied on the PTR how Unholy's DPS is doing when compared to Blood and Frost.

I mean after BiS. Which spec is taking the lead?

Will we start to see blood DKs switching to UH? Or the other way around?

Blizzard needs obvious guidance with LoH as their band aid fix of slapping Forbearance on things is getting old.

I've come up with something a holy pally would hopefully like in exchange that doesn't fuck over prot and shouldn't be overpowered in PvP.

First off, forbearance on LoH, remove it, entirely. Create a new Debuff that lasts 30 seconds or more, call it something witty, unlike "Nice damage and I'll let you finish, but I just got some awesome heals." While active, a target can't be healed by LoH or given Hand of protection. Also make LoH share a 30 second CD with Hand of Protection to avoid the OPness of "Oh hey! Watch this! Bubble, BoP and LoH my whole 3v3 team!" However, normal LoH does not apply this debuff because:

Lay on Hands
40 yd Range
Instant - 3 Minute CD
Heals a friendly target for an amount equal to ~20% of their base health and restores 50% of their base mana.

The current mana gain is currently 50% base anyway. If the mana is an issue for balance, get rid of it. Holy paladins shouldn't need it as much as they currently do. As for the Debuff, it doesn't do enough to warrant it any longer. It's essentially a NS+HT (10k instant heal on a 50k health tank vs 13k+ NS+HT, actually worse, but they can't cast it as feral/boomkin). This is where Holy now needs it buffed so, slightly redo the LoH talent and recreate the LoH Major Glyph.

Improved Lay on Hands
2 Ranks
Grants the target of your Lay on Hands spell 10/20% reduced physical damage taken for 15 seconds. In addition, the cooldown for your lay on hands is reduced by 30/60 seconds. Once healed, the target cannot be the target of Lay on Hands or Hand of Protection for 30 seconds.

Major Glyph for LoH:
Increases the healing done by your Lay on Hands spell by 100%.

If you wanted to increase the mana gain too, double it as well. Whatever. Mana shouldn't be something holding this crap back.

Minor Glyph for LoH:
Remove or replace with a useful minor, as I think most paladins had this glyph. Possibly something related to increasing the duration of all our blessings by 10 minutes. Please. Having a bear and a tree in a 10 man means you need to give out 4 different pally buffs for one class if you don't have replacements, meaning you HAVE to use minor blessings, which suck still.

Now, I wouldn't say this is overpowered as a tank, more just a gimp CD when your healers are slacking. If it's too good, increase the CD so it's a guaranteed once per fight and reduce it more as holy.

Thoughts? Crap? Right direction? I'm just bored of them slapping us in the face because of PvP, which is now focusing on 1v1 and BGs? I mean really. If a paladin is a three phase boss fight, then who's the overpowered class killing us three times? /rant

yes sir XD.....