GJ people

Rofl so true

Couldnt agree more

Shut up woob is cool!

Yeah I saw those gemming templates in Rawr now as well once I had all the buffs that I am raiding with enabled, the gemming changed from int/mp5 to SP in blue/red and sp/haste in yellow. I am so hit capped already that I only see sp/hit in the lowest of the 3 options.

Gonna change and see what it is like in the raid tonight.

Unholy DW Tanking - doable?

While there is plenty of discussion on DW frost tanking, I have seen no discussion of DW Unholy tanking, and would like input.

Due to familiarity, better mitigation of magic damage, and better AoE threat, some may prefer Unholy to Frost or Blood tanking. A DW build offers an interesting extra - while going deep enough into frost for Nerves of Cold Steel, Lichborne is readily available, giving a little extra utility.

Here's a spec I worked out, based on the standard Unholy tanking spec. 3 points are taken from Blood (1 in bladed armor & 2 in 2H weapon specialization), and 1 is taken from the Unholy tree (from wandering plague) in order to fill the requisite frost talents:

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...P,Yp3eO-,10676

Any input on the viability of this spec?

I've also considered the following spec as well for 3.3:

Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

Given the changes in 3.3 to AoD, it could be nice to have NotD talented, for a 6 min CD. This also allows for a perma-ghoul to have ready for sacrifice, instead of having to time your ghoul's CD. Dropping unholy blight might make sense given the halving of its damage and therefore its threat in 3.3.

This build gives up on the threat generated by SS, putting those points into BCB/NotD. For a DW build, melee makes up the highest portion of your threat, and SS is already weaker than on a 2H build, so the loss isn't as significant. This plays to the strength of a DW build, while building extra utility into the spec.

This spec for 3.3 builds in 3 utility tools that a standard Unholy build doesn't bring - Lichborne, AoD, and easy ghoul sacrifice, while still maintaining the excellent AoE threat, raid buff, and damage mitigation of Unholy. My primary concern is whether this build is too weak on single target threat - any thoughts?

EDIT: Reposted in the DW Tanking thread

I thought as much, thanks Johnneke

okay thanks

Hello, i've just got to this forum, and searched for a MS spec, i saw alot ppl using Incite spec, so I'm wondering should i go Incite spec with this gear:

The World of Warcraft Armory
(I got Reckoning in bags, but i guess the polearm is better because 5% critical damage increase)
Ignore the spec i have on, i wanted to try out fury, but I was stupid enough not to take look that can u use polarms for TG..
So is Incite spec better than the usual spec for Arms? And what kind of rotation it keeps inside.

Thank you in advance,

Anecdote

still nobody with some dualwield parses from ptr?
would be really interesting to have some real data.

First, hi everybody and thanks for all, i've been reading this forum for a long time but i've just made the choice to post here.
Well, that's done and here i go with my question about Simcraft.

I've been running a few simulations for an affliction warlock 3.3 but i was not able to go anywhere with a template using Dark Pact. Either i'm forgetting or doing (or not doing) something, i tried everything in my knowledge but the simulations still failed when i ran it..

So if someone has an idea ( or a successful try ), i am very interested in one or the other.

Thanks.

I've been playing my Death Knight a lot more recently. It's an alt at the moment, so I'm only wearing 2 piece T9 at the moment (plan on trying/going Unholy as soon as I have 4 piece T9).

Anyways, my gear isn't too bad at all; I have the level245 Axe, all my other pieces are out of 25m normal ToC (with the exception of my helm, still Conqueror's). So, like I said, my gear isn't AWFUL for an alt but I just can't seem to get the DPS output I think I'm capable of. I'm not using GoDisease at the moment and my rotation is something along the lines of:

IT-PS-HSx2-DS-DC-DS-HSx4-etc etc (I throw in a Pestilence as well as popping my Ghoul and DRW+Hysteria)

It's probably not the most optimal (I'm assuming, although it seems everyone has their own variation at this point), but I feel like it should work. I've talked with other Death Knights (i.e. DK mains in my guild) and I think we've come to the conclusion that I'm lacking in armor penetration - I only have 274. I was under the impression that this stat mattered, but not nearly as much as it used to. As I talk to other Death Knights, however, that number seems very, very low.

So other than low ArP, what else am I doing wrong? I find it hard to hold a steady 5k at times it seems in ToGC10 and such. Please help!

can anyone tell me bout my gear? is there better gear i should swap out for or get more of a certain stat? here is my dk
The World of Warcraft Armory

You have way too much hit. I don't know what the heck kind of spec your spec is... I'm familiar with 53/18 though. I don't know why you have two IIT specs.

Switch out either the trinket or chestplate. I'd keep trinket and get the Titanium Razorplate as it will do better for you.

Those are my 2 coppa

Hey
I checked all threads but didn't managed to find clear answer to this,so here it goes the question : I switched to eviscerate-only cycle,still need some items,but it's way better. My dps is around same value as rupture (in spreadsheet is less with 100,but due to the fact in ToC it's a lot of movement, eviscerate performs better).
What I don't know is when to eviscerate : should i do it at 5 points to be sure i get relentless strikes,or should i do it at 4 points in order to not loose ss glyph if it procs? Don't take in consideration rotation,or how much energy i have,i can play with that easily.let's say i have many seconds of slice,don't need to refresh it. So,should i eviscerate at 4 points or ss again for 5th point and then eviscerate?or at 4 points should i shiv to get 5 points then eviscerate?

Not enough infos to help you out (at least you could give us armory link so that ppl can check your items, glyps, gems etc...)

woot

Perhaps I've missed it because of reading for hours and hour last night and this morning, but I haven't seen any mention about silencing shot being used in a rotation, so if that is correct, why spec for it?

Seems the imp mark would be better spent, even with another imp hunter in the raid if one or the other accidentally overwrites it, being its "working as intended"..

Being the owner of a mouse with insane number of buttons, my set-up itself might not be the best reference for you, but there is one thing i would like to share.

PvP and pve layouts should be totaly different. While in pve one mostly organises the keys according to the frequency of use of the talents, I find that this doesn't work so well in pvp. That is because in pvp, one doesn't have a definite rotation. Depending on what your ennemy does, what you will use can greatly vary. Therefore, I love to set up my pvp layout in clear little groups. here is my rogue setup:

F1 F2 F3 F4 -> buff cooldowns (cold blood trinkets evasion)
1 2 3 4 5 6 ->main use (mutilate etc)
q w e ->situational (dismantle kick arcane torrent)
a s d ->life savers (vanish prep shadow)

of course there's a few more on my mouse, but with this setup, I never get mixed up. everything is clearly organised and it saves the split second of thinking that sometimes makes you lose.

Thanks Bigperm , i gave power aura a second look this weekend ( tried it before and never could understand it correctly ), configured it like you show, and now i love it, i dumped 3 addons for it. Power Aura is my new friend Even configured Missile barrage proc into it. This addon has alot of moding potential.

Thanks for the how to.

Silencing shot is not on the GCD, so if you create a macro to cast it with all your other shots, it will fire whenever the cooldown is up, adding a small amount of damage. It isn't used in a rotation per say, but it is definitely used. The one thing I have always been curious of myself is whether or not it is actually worth the mana cost on any fight where you do go OOM and have to drop into viper.

retracted.