Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 381

Kistrel · 06/26/09, 9:30 PM

I did some dummy testing on the PTR to get myself ready for raiding there. From what I found Unholy subspec with Slow (main)/ Fast (off) did the best for me and the Sigil of Awareness, as I suspected, was by far the best of the three choices (new one on PTR only and Vengeful Heart were the others). Of note, the new Sigil has almost a 100% uptime @ 200 strength and it did god awful dps compared to either of the older sigils (in the 3-500 less dps range). To be fair though, I was testing Last Laugh in my off-hand compared to Silent Crusader though, so it's a bit inconclusive if it's just weapon dps or speed that mattered for off-hand, since there is a weapon dps gap between the two.

I tested 13/51/7 and 0/51/20, both with IT, OB, and FS glyphs, for reference.

swf · 06/26/09, 9:35 PM

A bit off topic, but perhaps I'm not alone in wondering what background our resident genius Aldriana has. Are you a coder/mathematician? Autodidactic prodigy?

Sorry if this was mentioned elsewhere

Thanks for your efforts to the community.

StaxRexx · 06/26/09, 10:01 PM

lol I didn't think that'd still be in the Armory I've logged in and out with my Fury Gear on like 5 times today.
I'm pretty sure I was using '07 when I got the windfury error but maybe its just the 97/03 version. Not sure if Landsoul works on 2 seperate versions or converts or what. Well I tried im not sure if the 03 version would act differently if opened with 07 software so I'm probably done trying to figure this one out.

Lazengann · 06/27/09, 2:34 AM

Knowing this may be the wrong thread to post this, but from my testing on the PTR, I know Unholy is still iffy due to UB being bug'd, it seems that Blood will be on top for the most part of 2 handed specs/DPS with T9, no set bonus, and the new sigil.

The DW build may out DPS it, but I haven't had the chance to try it first hand. All I can say is that patch 3.2 might be good for you Blood DKs.

Luthar · 06/27/09, 5:17 AM

I see many people now a days that are equipped to high end ulduar gear fully gemed with armor penetration, can you please tell me if that's decent or exactly why they do this? Is it the next level of geming? (im pretty new to elitist so im not sure if this has been disgust)

Dizzide · 06/27/09, 5:26 AM

Hi im a first time poster on this forum.. Have been reading here for awhile now..

I was wondering if any could try out the 26/45/0 spec? i personally dont got good gear. I got pre-naxx and naxx 10 items and i did 3k dps with it.. I did it with slow/fast with fc/fc and unholy presence, HOW and 5 stacks of frost vulnerability on the heroric dummy..

my stats.

Str: 1048
Ap: 633
Melee Hit %: 12.38%
Spell Hit %: 15.48%
Melee Crit %: 28.24%
Spell Crit %: 20.07%
Expertise %: 4.75%

Screenshot

i know this dosent show how the spec is but, i think its worth trying it..

Unregistered · 06/27/09, 7:09 AM

Hello, i'm reading a long time now and there was no need to post until now^^

Im testing 10/54/7 atm and got a strange result with (the nerved) SotVH, SoV and SoA !

My Experience was ( ok, my gear is not that good ... BUT ) my dps went up with SoA and NOT with the others ( SoV was worst ).
My Ob counted with ~35% No. 1, Fs with ~27% No.2 in recount. Ok, i knew it before, im buffing Ob now and not Fs, but in the same way my dps go ~300 up!

It still was on a Dummy and so on, but the difference still exist in an Raid-environment ( imho ).

Rotation with all sigils: it-ps-ob-bs-bs-(fs dump)-ob-ob-ob-(fs dump) on rime-procs hb ( prioritized ) .

Equipment: armory :: but with this helm, this neck and this mh / oh (slow/fast) and finaly these boots

Edit: Mh (cg/ri - nearly the same results) / oh fc

Anyone got similar results, or is this just b/c my equip is not good enough to support the other sigils?

Sorry for my bad english, im from Germany ^.^

Constadine · 06/27/09, 7:18 AM

Originally Posted by Dizzide

Hi im a first time poster on this forum.. Have been reading here for awhile now..

I was wondering if any could try out the 26/45/0 spec? i personally dont got good gear. I got pre-naxx and naxx 10 items and i did 3k dps with it.. I did it with slow/fast with fc/fc and unholy presence, HOW and 5 stacks of frost vulnerability on the heroric dummy..

my stats.

Str: 1048
Ap: 633
Melee Hit %: 12.38%
Spell Hit %: 15.48%
Melee Crit %: 28.24%
Spell Crit %: 20.07%
Expertise %: 4.75%

Screenshot

i know this dosent show how the spec is but, i think its worth trying it..

I changed yout spec into http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...&version=10026, running a rotation like OB-OB-BS-BS...RPD...6xBS in UP. Its basicaly the same philosophy like 6xIT machine gun.Not sure tho if its better than running a standard double disease frost rotation like IT-PS-BS-BS-OB..RPD..OB-PS- IT-IT-IT cause in the first case running a 6xBS rotation produces 120RP per rotation and in the second case u produce 170 RP per rotation (if im not mistaken).
Is there a chance to try this out and evaluate its worth ??I am still w8ing to copy my char in the PTR.

Tnx in advance.

Velenorx · 06/27/09, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by joebox

I'm a troll MM. I recently got the Magnetized Projectile Emitter. Up until then I have been using Siren's Cry. My only question would be is the MPE better than SC if I don't need the hit? I would think SC is better for the troll racial, just not sure if one out weighs the other.

First off: use the Spreadsheet.

But on the topic: I am Troll Hunter as well. In both specs, SV and MM, Siren's Cry is for me at least best non-Hard Mode Weapon. It is even better than Skyforged Crossbow. That's how potent that Racial is.

Yourdemise · 06/27/09, 10:52 AM

could somebody check my character out and tell me which frost spec of those 3 would be best with my gear/stats. Im currently blood and wanted to try frost out before the next patch.
Characters name is Yourdemise
realm-Shu'halo
Guild-Swords and ale
if u could also post the best glyphs for the spec u recommend it will be appreciated.

itwasluck · 06/27/09, 2:16 PM

Acidor · 06/27/09, 3:16 PM

Hi guys !

Got a question about the gemming! Can someone tell me now whats better gemming ARP or STR

I got GT + GRIMM as trinkets

and got 39 % passiv ARP but still got some STR gems its like 50/50 on my armor!

What are the caps now or for how much passive ARP is it worth to gem?

phimuajedi69 · 06/27/09, 4:19 PM

Originally Posted by eredor

SPEC	DPS	Change
Warlock_T8_00_13_58_WEB	7780	0.00%
Warlock_T8_00_13_58_BACKLASH2OF3	7726	-0.69%
Warlock_T8_00_13_58_PYRO2OF3	7719	-0.78%
Warlock_T8_00_13_58_EMPIMP2OF3	7711	-0.89%
Warlock_T8_00_13_58	7703	-0.99%
Warlock_T8_00_13_58_ISL1OF2	7701	-1.02%
Warlock_T8_00_13_58_SAF4OF5	7648	-1.70%
Warlock_T8_00_13_58_FB4OF5	7607	-2.22%
Warlock_T8_00_13_58_EMBER4OF5	7531	-3.20%
Warlock_T8_00_13_58_BACKDRAFT2OF3	7500	-3.60%

Thanks for these numbers eredor, been thinking about finding a second point fo threat reduction for a while now. Just noticed a couple unexplored options that I hope you have time to take a look at to see how they compare to the others:

1) 1/2 Demonic power
2) 2/3 Demonic Aegis (technically makes the build 0/12/59), probably one of the worst options but for completness it is an option

Ehtheratti · 06/27/09, 5:14 PM

I'm currently sitting at 645 ArP, for 52.37% "mouseover" ArP, 62.37% in Battle Stance. When GT procs, I'm about 10% over the ArP cap, wasting a chunk of the proc.

I plan to get additional ArP upgrades in the near future, including Drape of the Drakerider, Bitter Cold Armguards, and Twirling Blades. This will be an additional 114 ArP, a grand total of 759 ArP.

At what point of passive ArP does it no longer make sense to use GT/MJR, and to use Pyrite Infuser/BotOG instead?

OR

Would it make more sense to continue using GT/MJR, and just gem some ArP back to Str to try and maintain a lower level of passive ArP and thereby not waste such a huge chunk of the GT/MJR proc?

I understand that this could probably be answered by Rawr and/or Landsoul's spreadsheet, but I can't get Rawr to work on my Mac, and my version of Excel is rather old and I get a ton of errors w/ the spreadsheet, in addition to not being able to load my armory profile.

Thanks in advance.

Soulvex · 06/27/09, 5:39 PM

This is what myself and the other rogue say. I constantly bring up the fact that he doesn't even have a rogue over level 1, but he's just ignorant. If my dps is low I'm blaming it on my mainhand, one of my rings and my blue trinket. I consider myself a good player and have devoted 99% of my wow playtime to my rogue as I have one alt. But yea, I never thought to even ask him for the parses of these amazing rogues. Moreover, it's not even 8k on a specific fight, it's just "Tell me why don't do 8k dps and don't blame it on gear." Kind of silly, I know, but thought I'd get some opinions here first as you should be able to see my gear. And this feral has always had better gear than me anyway. RL just has unrealistic expectations right now and DPS is not even one of our raids weakpoints - it's actually pretty high from what I can tell. He's also a resto druid and is not agreeing with the feral nerf (go figure).