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Old 07/04/09, 11:32 PM   #5911
andrei1221
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Priest
 
Tichondrius
You're not exp capped so I would suggest for the time being taking a point WM so you'd be sitting at 6.75% (just a tad over cap). Also it seems that you're not utilizing your socket bonuses, you have a blue gem to get +12 stam bonus and then also in your belt. If you switch the gems for your pants (for 6str) and to your necky (+8ap) and you'd lose 12stam which is negligible from a dps min/maxing pov.
From what I remember 21agi +3%inc crit dmg > than 21crit +3%inc crit dmg if you're NOT a JC since you only have to socket one blue gem instead of 2.
Also you neglect to mention if you're running 10mans or 25mans and what buffs you have/are missing. If you have any logs it would help. My toons are also on tich., send me a tell if you see me on I'll be happy to help anyway i can.

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Old 07/05/09, 12:48 AM   #5912
orion121
Piston Honda
 
Troll Shaman
 
Eredar
Originally Posted by Binkenstein View Post
We all agree that something should be done, but I'd refrain from "wish listing" here.

I've already posted my glyph/relic observations in my blog, but basically Thunderfall = useless, Lava is better only with the 4pc bonus.
Read, noted, TY

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Old 07/05/09, 1:01 AM   #5913
[sean.awesome]
Banned
 
Human Warrior
 
Draka
small min/max with gems wont make much of a difference in your dps as much as your rotation and prioritizing. and yes you can get the agil meta if you feel like losing about .13% crit and gemming for another 16 armor pen (about 1.30%) but that really wont make the difference. clearly from his gear he is running at least naxx 25 and ulduar 10 so he should receive most of the common buffs.

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Old 07/05/09, 2:41 AM   #5914
Aeixious
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Death Knight
 
Blackrock
I'm currently playing 51/0/20 Blood.
I just bought a Nobles Deck today and will be grabbing my card tomorrow.
I'm currently using Mirror Of Truth and Fury of the Five Flights.
Which would you suggest that i switch Greatness for?
Thanks!

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Old 07/05/09, 3:21 AM   #5915
Namarus
Don Flamenco
 
Orc Hunter
 
Demon Soul
This is a splendid piece of work.

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Old 07/05/09, 3:37 AM   #5916
Extenze
Von Kaiser
 
Extenze's Avatar
 
Tauren Shaman
 
Blackrock
Originally Posted by Trollpriest View Post
Short Answer; No.
Long Answer: Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Too many of our attacks are based off weapon damage, slower weapons hit harder and all of our attacks are instant. Slower the better.

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Old 07/05/09, 4:45 AM   #5917
Bllets
Von Kaiser
 
Undead Death Knight
 
Stormscale (EU)
Originally Posted by zang1983 View Post
I'm missing a dps enchants list.
http://elitistjerks.com/f72/t55505-o...ng_bis_thread/ has what you are looking for.

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Old 07/05/09, 5:22 AM   #5918
trickie
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Hunter
 
Turalyon (EU)
Amazing, thank you.

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Old 07/05/09, 11:47 AM   #5919
enelnico
Glass Joe
 
Orc Hunter
 
Ragnaros
Great Work!

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Old 07/05/09, 12:36 PM   #5920
Scandinavian
Glass Joe
 
Undead Mage
 
Whisperwind
Hi fellow Mages,

At the moment I am 57/3/11 Arcane that's just started to venture into Ulduar 10 and 25. But after hearing how FFB and TtW/FB are better specs for Ulduar, I decided to plan ahead and pick up gear for TtW/FB. Last night I won [Raiments of the Corrupted] and [Combustion Bracers] in Ulduar 10. Now I'm wondering if they're better pieces for TtW/FB than [Valorous Frostfire Robe] and [Punctilious Bindings]. Also, what is the hit cap for TtW/FB?

Thanks in advance!

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Old 07/05/09, 1:34 PM   #5921
peterdevos
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Mage
 
Gilneas
My advice for badges: Save badges for tier gear first as they are, or are near BiS pretty much by default, then use your other emblems for orbs. The badge non-tier gear isn't that much of an upgrade over what is commonly available from Naxx-25/Ulduar-10 gear, and runed orbs are coming down in price to the point where crafted gear is widely available.
Great Advice. This is exactly what I did and now have both my Sash and my Slippers.

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Old 07/05/09, 1:47 PM   #5922
ardulus
Glass Joe
 
Undead Mage
 
Cenarius
Originally Posted by Scandinavian View Post
Hi fellow Mages,

At the moment I am 57/3/11 Arcane that's just started to venture into Ulduar 10 and 25. But after hearing how FFB and TtW/FB are better specs for Ulduar, I decided to plan ahead and pick up gear for TtW/FB. Last night I won [Raiments of the Corrupted] and [Combustion Bracers] in Ulduar 10. Now I'm wondering if they're better pieces for TtW/FB than [Valorous Frostfire Robe] and [Punctilious Bindings]. Also, what is the hit cap for TtW/FB?

Thanks in advance!
My suggestion is to be aware of the added hit you will need to be able to play as FB/TtW. With that in mind if your [Valorous Frostfire Robe] is helping you achieve a set bonus then it should be one of the last things you trade off with the t8 or 8.5 pieces to be used as suitable replacements when you have a couple of them.

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Old 07/05/09, 3:57 PM   #5923
Tarsis
 
Tarsis
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Non-US/EU Server (EU)
Results from several hours of testing.

Well, i've done several builds of runes+Talents, with fixed weapons, 2 of This one, by lack of better one handed weapon, both without enchants, the rest of the gear is the normal premade dps gear. all with +hit gems to bring it closer to the hit cap, I know that i've favored one build, and there are still several things I lack testing, like Frost+Blood builds and using a fast OH, but that's for later(The damn arena vendor is despawned everytime I get to him >.<). But as of now, i've tested all the viables Deep Frost+Unholy and Half Frost+Half Unholy, and under the following conditions, I could only pull 2 builds over 3k:
-No Cooldown used(I mean, only sticking to the rotation)
-Heroic Target Dummy on 1 hp(sorry, everytime I went there it was like that >.<)
-Hitting the target alone
-Ungrouped
-Blood presence
And these are the two talent builds:
-1-Deep Frost or This one, small variation
-2-Half Frost Half Unholy, with FS
The best combination of Runeforging was Fallen crusader with Razorice(Although it seems with a fast OH Cindeglacier may work), the best rotations are:
-PS, IT, OB, BS, BS--OS, OS, OS--IT, PS, OB, BS, BS--OS, OS, OS-- While dumping RP with FS as much as you can and using HB on every rime proc.
-PS, IT, OB, BS, BS--OS, OS, OS--IT, PS, OB, BS, BS--OS, OS, OS-- While dumping RP with FS as much as you can(while not disturbing the rotation).
As you can see, both rotations are very similar(equal ffs), but the added rime to the first makes it really unstable and unpredictable, so I can say that I didn't got all I could from it, I had problems pulling it because of my latency, but values from what I got:
First one I got 4.3k dps on the training dummy, totally focused on the rotation and procs
Second one I got 3.5k dps, dpsing normally
Result: The first one is to be used in a fight with almost no movimentation, and not much things going on, because it really requires that you be insanely focused(much likely the druid rotation)
The second one is best suited to moviment fights, and for people who are beginning, I still need to see if with the variables posted in the start I can pull the dps higher or get a equivalent but easier rotation.
I'm going to post the math of these once I finish with the variables I said.
PS:On the first rotation I didn't used a Ghoul, on the second one I did.
PS2: Please feel free to show any mistake I did.

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Old 07/05/09, 4:06 PM   #5924
circu
Banned
 
Blood Elf Priest
 
Frostmourne
hey guys, currently i am using pyrite infuser + grim toll, i am thinking to replace pyrite infuser with darkmoon card : greatness. so, is it worth a try?

i have off set +hit rating gears, so i dont have any issues in hit rating since i already well capped in hit rating at both set up

just want to know which one better: pyrite infuser or greatness trinket

currently my critical chance sitting at 43.53%, do i still need to stacking agi/crit rating to push up my critical chance or put more at AP? i am running t8.5 4 set, CQC spec using CS and GS-S, 18/51/2 build. i have malice and rune etched nigtblade, but i have not try combat sword yet since wotlk.

i really need feedback on my build since it is haunting me everynight :E

thanks before

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Old 07/05/09, 5:30 PM   #5925
trancos.jorge
Banned
 
Troll Rogue
 
Shu'halo
Does anyone know which is the yellow hit rating cap for " 51/7/13 (late Ulduar, 4/5 T8) " having 2/5 points on precision ?

with and without a spriest or boomkin in raid

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