Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 404

Bloodgrip · 07/09/09, 12:46 AM

This might have been posted at one point, but with the somewhat recent changes to ArP, is it worth it? being that roughly 60% of Enhance Shaman DPS is Melee, and if it isnt worth it, then is it best to just stay as far away from it as possible and just get Crit/Haste/AP items?

Bloodgrip · 07/09/09, 12:47 AM

hopefully 3.2 will clear up the ArP drama

Bloodgrip · 07/09/09, 12:50 AM

With Feral Spirits and Shamanistic Rage, you should have no problems keeping yourself up

Tiny^ · 07/09/09, 12:53 AM

currently the fastest way iv found to making money as a LW is to make 32slot mining bags. it takes about 5-10min to grind the mats and they sell for about 50-60G on the AH. and atm they selling like hot cakes

get the leather from the mammoths in storm peaks collect the meat and if u have cooking you can make even more gold

Bloodgrip · 07/09/09, 12:53 AM

This fight is more intense then Yogg for enhance shamans

DerailedThread · 07/09/09, 1:39 AM

Ok, I have some concerns with the ARP gem/gearing scene. Is it heavily rng based to get the numbers shown like I am hearing? I have 619 passive ARP, plus I have grimtoll. My rotation leaves out arcane, and has 3/3 in Improved steady shot. For some reason I am doing less dps then when I used AGI gems and didn't focus completely on arp gear. I am using Arcane when on the move, and steady shot when not. I'm by no means doing bad dps, but a MM in my guild who didnt ever outdps/damage me all of a sudden is beating me on fights, or staying really close. I'm just not feeling ARP, and am wondering if anyone else is getting results like mine.

atua · 07/09/09, 3:01 AM

Originally Posted by Roywyn

Any nuking class who is going all out should give you at the very least 95% uptime with current gear levels. Healers usually don't provide good uptimes, because they don't stack crit on gear as heavily as we do, don't have have massive crit percentage talents and glyphs, lack 8% crit debuffs and simply aren't built around button cramming throughput like we are.
There are definately times and places where AoE Spam Healing gives excellent uptime, but those are the rarer moments.

For the benefit of 3% to other classes, check DPS Scale Factors in Simcraft for crit rating. It lists the absolute DPS gain per 1 point of ratings. Not sure if Boomkin actually use Wrath Spam cycles, so I put them in parantheses.

It's FFB Mage > SPriest >= FB Mage >= Chaos Warlock = (Wrath Druid) >> ToW Shaman > Starfire Druid >> Haunt Warlock >= Arcane Mage = Metamorph Warlock >>> Frost Mage. From SampleOutputT8 - simulationcraft - Google Code

Try using the search function next time.

Ruga · 07/09/09, 4:11 AM

Originally Posted by Bloodgrip

This might have been posted at one point, but with the somewhat recent changes to ArP, is it worth it? being that roughly 60% of Enhance Shaman DPS is Melee, and if it isnt worth it, then is it best to just stay as far away from it as possible and just get Crit/Haste/AP items?

Or - you could just sim it yourself.

It's not liked on these boards to ask about things that were answered 10 times over. So just quickly search the enhancement shaman related threads and/or sim it yourself.

Rawr.Enhance and enhSim - it can't get any easier.

EnhSim Thread

Rawr Thread

Sedare · 07/09/09, 6:15 AM

I am trying to follow what your talkin about here.
T4 piece proc makes it so the Missile Barrage proc doesnt expire... When im in my rotation I dont clear the debuff when before I use missiles. I cant tell if you clear it with AB or you save it for missiles. It would be logical to max DPS by using the debuff... but I read a posts where it sounded like you clear the debuff and use the proc AFTER.
This is friendly for mana... but that just means your not stacking enough spirit. No?

Shoein · 07/09/09, 6:19 AM

Dul:

There are two frost threads here with the newwer one being more concise. I'm not sure about pvp at all unfortunately.

Tiny^ · 07/09/09, 7:19 AM

before i start, lets get one thing straight im a noob!

now this wed was my 5th week at level 80, and it took me 1month to grind to 80 with help from a mate and tripple xp.

iv read alot of post on here about haste/crit/hit and atm i have put crit/spell power gems in my gear. my first question is should i be stacking crit (26% unbuffed in mookin fourm) or haste? (i have skinning for crit bonus)

Which food should i be using? im currently using the 40haste one atm in all raids or should i be using spell power food.

snakeinmypants · 07/09/09, 7:57 AM

Originally Posted by powersofpain

Let me know if I've done something wrong since I'm just not seeing the error of my gemming. Thanks

Your gemming looks pretty good. You may want to check the spread sheet though, as I think you'll find that putting an orange gem in the yellow slot on your back, and picking up the 6 agility, may put you a little more ahead then the red gem.

Teii · 07/09/09, 8:16 AM

[Edit] Removed my post, since I clearly missread the changelog (and I don't have a PTR account). My apologizes.

Thou, I am sure that there are more polite ways to mention it, Kamp.

suicuique · 07/09/09, 8:27 AM

Originally Posted by Teii

Basically Sudden Death goes back to the "old" days when it soaked all our rage bar. Buff or nerf?

There are no "full rage bar" executes anymore.
The wording of SD talent has changed because it was redundant to explicitely state that only 30 rage executes are possible. I suspect this is the cause for the confusion.

Kampfschaf · 07/09/09, 8:30 AM

Testing changes on PTR > posting bullshit from misread changelogs.