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Old 07/10/09, 12:37 AM   #6106
Chrisfarly
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Death Knight
 
Muradin
Griefknight, you have to be one of the biggest douchebags I've ever seen on a forum, I hope you get into a car accident tomorrow. If you are so hurting for attention that you feel the need to tell everyone what they should be posting, how they should be speccing, best of luck to you.

Clearly you lack any kind of control in your real life, as you seem to come online to attempt to gain some on an anonymous internet forum.

The point you missed about the entire topic was the fact that while improved TC,Pally judgement,infected wounds all are baked into prot specs of the respectable classes because there are no good alternatives to take, as death knights we have that option openly available to us. Instead you wanted to go on some crusade about how you view things should be and that anyone who wouldn't spec that way is an idiot.

Well, you did good at embarrassing yourself, thats about it.

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Old 07/10/09, 2:05 AM   #6107
guine
 
Undead Warlock
 
Illidan (EU)
Hi everyone,

i would like to know what is the best cast rotation/cycle now for destruction warlock?

- for long fights?
- for short fights - packs/trash?

thanks in advance

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Old 07/10/09, 3:15 AM   #6108
arkiron
 
Human Warlock
 
Aegwynn
Simplified Ret Pally DPS Flow chart

Retdps.jpg picture by arkiron - Photobucket

the cat dps flow chart for ret paladins

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Old 07/10/09, 3:18 AM   #6109
Damagejack
Glass Joe
 
Undead Warlock
 
Eredar
Cast rotations

For boss fights I keep CoD up, and I have LT glyph for extra sp, so keeping that up as well, and my casting order is

1 IM

2 CF

3 CB

5 IN Spam

Cast CB and CF as often as u can. I can get 2 CF out of an IM duration.

For trash rotation is similar, but I use SoD for an extra nuke

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Old 07/10/09, 3:52 AM   #6110
Furies_kod
 
Undead Warrior
 
Caelestrasz
Hi fellow fury community, I'd appreciate some advice on my current gem and stat focus of choice. I personally feel theres alot more I can squeeze out of it, probably due to my play style. Especially on Hodir only hitting about 6.6kdps while i've seen other warriors push beyond 7.5~8.5.

Regards,
Furies

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Old 07/10/09, 4:17 AM   #6111
Crovax
Glass Joe
 
Orc Death Knight
 
Kazzak (EU)
Fishfood is really good and should be used at all time possible!

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Old 07/10/09, 5:02 AM   #6112
Osinin
Glass Joe
 
Orc Hunter
 
Thaurissan
Originally Posted by Hagen View Post
Master Marksman reduces the mana cost of Steady Shot but not of Arcane Shot, that's where the difference comes from.
Fair call, I'm sorry alienangel, my mistake

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Old 07/10/09, 7:32 AM   #6113
Chrislol
Glass Joe
 
Orc Death Knight
 
Gilneas
This may be a little off-topic with 3.2 approaching but I noticed a while back that Blood Tap would occasionally reset both Blood Runes if used after a Blood Strike procced a Death Rune giving 2 immediate Death Runes. This mean that we can remove one Blood Strike from our rotations and get in an extra SS. Spec/Glyphs I ran some testing on the Heroic Dummy and here are my results:



No deviations from standard rotation: (SS1) -> BS -> BS -> SS2 -> SS3 -> SS4 -> SS5 -> Dump

Totals: 1048691 Damage :: 2437 DPS

Player: 940573 Damage :: 2186 DPS
Pet: 108018 Damage :: 252 DPS


[% of total][Source][Total Number of Attacks]

40.2% Scourge Strike.........98
18.9% Melee.....................139
15.5% Death Coil...............67
06.4% Frost Fever..............128
06.3% Blood Plague...........126
06.0% Blood Strike.............42
03.5% Blood Caked Strike...50
01.6% Plague Strike...........14
01.4% Icy Touch................13
00.1% Wandering Plague....72
00.1% Necrosis..................135



Standard Rotation + Ghoul Frenzy

Totals: 1151129 Damage :: 2364 DPS

Player: 1021484 :: 2098 DPS
Pet: 129645 :: 266.9 DPS

40.3% Scource Strike...........104
18.4% Melee......................153
15.8% Death Coil................76
06.6% Blood Plague............145
06.5% Frost Fever...............145
04.8% Blood Strike.............41
03.9% Blood Caked Strike...62
01.9% Plague Strike...........15
01.5% Icy Touch................16
00.2% Wandering Plague....92
00.1% Necrosis..................151


Blood Tapped Scourge Strike Rotation

Totals: 1047357 Damage :: 2436 DPS

Player: 939486 Damage :: 2185 DPS
Pet: 107871 Damage :: 251.4

39.9% Scourge Strike......99
18.5% Melee..................135
16.3% Death Coil............70
06.6% Blood Plague........130
06.5% Frost Fever...........128
05.9% Blood Strike..........42
03.2% Blood Caked Strike...48
01.6% Plague Strike...........12
01.3% Icy Touch................13
00.1% Wandering Plague....78
00.0% Necrosis..................130




While weaving in an extra SS may not gain any real DPS in the long run, it can be useful for trash pulls etc. The interesting part I found was that weaving Ghoul Frenzy ends in a loss of DPS. I was curious to find out if anyone else was finding this to be true as well.

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Old 07/10/09, 9:06 AM   #6114
Noekie
Glass Joe
 
Human Death Knight
 
Ravencrest (EU)
Originally Posted by Chrislol View Post
I was curious to find out if anyone else was finding this to be true as well.
I can confirm this. Using blood tap after a bloodstrike, both death runes are off cd.

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Old 07/10/09, 9:19 AM   #6115
vorda
Bald Bull
 
vorda's Avatar
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Jaedenar (EU)
Ferals? They are pretty much the melee kings of AoE..
Swipe (Cat) - Spell - World of Warcraft

edit: seems I was mistaken, continue to the post below for more detail.

Last edited by vorda : 07/10/09 at 10:48 AM.

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Old 07/10/09, 9:38 AM   #6116
Mendoza
Piston Honda
 
Blood Elf Death Knight
 
<XW>
Neptulon (EU)
Originally Posted by Chrislol View Post
This may be a little off-topic with 3.2 approaching but I noticed a while back that Blood Tap would occasionally reset both Blood Runes if used after a Blood Strike procced a Death Rune giving 2 immediate Death Runes. This mean that we can remove one Blood Strike from our rotations and get in an extra SS. Spec/Glyphs I ran some testing on the Heroic Dummy and here are my results.
If you mean that when you have one death rune on CD, and one available blood rune, and that tapping causes the death rune to come off cooldown and the blood rune to become a death rune, then yes this has been refered to multiple times in this thread alone.

As far as your results go, your numbers are too small a sample to give a reliable indication, and I find it hard to believe that using ghoul frenzy gives a 5% increase to ghoul dps as your numbers suggest.

Don't mean to come over as an arse, just I don't think your data is scientific enough to be usable.

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Old 07/10/09, 9:47 AM   #6117
Crovax
Glass Joe
 
Orc Death Knight
 
Kazzak (EU)
Originally Posted by vorda View Post
Ferals? They are pretty much the melee kings of AoE..
Swipe (Cat) - Spell - World of Warcraft
Offtopic: Say again? Ever seen a rogue with the FoK glyphe doing 50K! dps on the Freya exploding lasher? Thats what I call king of AoE.

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Old 07/10/09, 10:40 AM   #6118
Richelieu
Von Kaiser
 
Undead Priest
 
Area 52
Originally Posted by Maniq View Post
Just enforcing this choice for you.

Oh and I'll IP ban you as well.

Oh and if you message me about my user title, you'll get an infraction as well
I think your title is inspired.

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Old 07/10/09, 1:26 PM   #6119
Powerade
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Mage
 
Hakkar (EU)
Originally Posted by diesel9 View Post
Long time reader of EJ's but first time poster, hope you enjoy. I've been running this sort of layout for a couple years but in this latest version I'm using the frames from StonehUI and some newer replacments , all credit goes to him of course for his awesome oUF frames.




Addons used


oUF_st0neh (modified)
Diesel can you please post your modified oUF layout? I like it a lot.

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Old 07/10/09, 2:10 PM   #6120
Micah
Von Kaiser
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Tichondrius
I very much approve of your user title

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