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Old 07/13/09, 3:39 PM   #6196
Nightcrauler
 
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Cenarius
Mmkay, as a hunter I have a BIG problem with my pet. He's about as useful as arcane shot when you're specced survival. Right now he's pulling about 150 dps which kind of makes me "forget" to take him out. What could I do to possibly make him do a bit more?

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Old 07/13/09, 4:03 PM   #6197
fuzzywho
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Shadow Council
Supergurl Survival Hunter

Could someone give me advice on my hunter if any im pushing 4k in 25 mans but i want to get better (Spec, Gems, etc.)


The World of Warcraft Armory

thx

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Old 07/13/09, 4:06 PM   #6198
Scotch
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Originally Posted by Nightcrauler View Post
Mmkay, as a hunter I have a BIG problem with my pet. He's about as useful as arcane shot when you're specced survival. Right now he's pulling about 150 dps which kind of makes me "forget" to take him out. What could I do to possibly make him do a bit more?
150 dps? Did you forget to level him from 75 after you tamed him?

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Old 07/13/09, 4:15 PM   #6199
Lupius
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Blood Elf Hunter
 
Black Dragonflight
According to the Armory you have two 75 wolves and two 80 cats, all horribly specced for any situation in game. Cobra Reflexes is a must in any dps spec.

You also don't have points Go for the Throat.

Lastly, make sure all your pet special attacks are on autocast.

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Old 07/13/09, 4:33 PM   #6200
olivier
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Orc Hunter
 
Garona (EU)
Amazing job dude, thanks a lot

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Old 07/13/09, 5:17 PM   #6201
Lilbitters
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Troll Hunter
 
Thrall
Originally Posted by fuzzywho View Post
Could someone give me advice on my hunter if any im pushing 4k in 25 mans but i want to get better (Spec, Gems, etc.)


The World of Warcraft Armory

thx
An ArP trinket isn't going to be tremendously helpful as SV like it would for MM, and in either case with 205 passive ArP you'd be better off using a [Mirror of Truth] in place of [Grim Toll].

Aside from that, you're 114 Hit Rating over the cap and still have an Icewalker enchant and [Rigid Autumn's Glow] in your gloves.

Replacing the trinket would put you at 294, and then the boot enchant with +16 Agility would put you at 282, and then the glove gem to a [Delicate Scarlet Ruby] would finish you off at 266 (just 3 hit rating over the cap).

I also saw that you have a [Sun Scope] which is inferior in DPS compared to [Heartseeker Scope].

As for your pet, you should be using your wolf HERCULES, but move one point out of Bloodthirsty and into Wild Hunt. Make sure Bite, Furious Howl, and Rabid are on Auto Cast and turn Call of the Wild off. Make a macro such as:

(select "?" icon)__________________
#showtooltip Call of the Wild
/cast Call of the Wild
/cast Rapid Fire
_______________________________

Drop 1 point in Hunting Party for the 5th point in Master Tactician.
If you don't raid with any other Survival Hunters, Retribution Paladins, Shadow Priests, Destruction Warlocks, or possibly Frost Mages you should keep 2/3 Hunting Party. However that's usually pretty unlikely in 25 so I would reccomend a spec like one of the following:
This 1/18/52 build (if there is more than 1 hunter raiding with you and none of them have 3 points in Imp Hunter's Mark)
This 5/15/51 build (if you prefer the versatility of an extra instant [Aimed Shot instead of Multishot] in movement situations)
This 6/14/51 build (if you don't need to provide replenishment and don't have any Viper uptime or mana problems)

For the builds with 5 points in Imp Aspect of the Hawk I'd recommend using:
[Glyph of Serpent Sting]
[Glyph of Steady Shot]
[Glyph of Kill Shot]
(same minor glyphs that you currently have)

For the builds with 1 or 2 points in Imp Aspect of the Hawk I'd recommend using:
[Glyph of Serpent Sting]
[Glyph of the Hawk]
[Glyph of Kill Shot]
(same minor glyphs that you currently have)


Glyphs and spec are very dependent of your personal preference and gear though, so I'd suggest that you'd check out:
Shandara's Microsoft Excel DPS Spreadsheet (if you have access to Excel)
Zeherah's Web-based DPS Analyzer (if you're looking for a quicker alternative)

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Old 07/13/09, 5:20 PM   #6202
Tianmi
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Azshara (EU)
Hey everybody!

I did some testings with the following speccs:
Blood and UH Presence: 10 / 54 / 7
Blood Presence: 14 / 50 / 7

I used two 2.6 Speed Weapons (Serilas, Blood Blade of Invar One-Arm & Vulmir, the Northern Tempest)
I put Serilas into my MH because of the style, but it doesn't matter as both weapons have the same speed, dps and min/max dmg. As enchants I used RotfC on MH and Razorice on OH!

Rotation: There is no real rotation as you can't tell your Runepower / Miss / Dodge / Whatever to happen. Have your Disease up all the time or < 0.1 after running out.

My stats look like this: (YES, only 3/5 T8 as I am a tank, so no 20% more Obliterate dmg set bonus)


DISCLAIMER: I DON'T HAVE ULDUAR 25 EQUIP AS I AM A TANK IN ULDUAR 25! MOST OF MY DPS EQUIP IS OUT OF 10 MAN ULDUAR! THE DUMMY WAS ALWAYS UNDER 35% WHICH SHOULD RESOLVE MY EQUIPMENT PROBLEM!?!?

So I did three tests. 10/54/7 with BP & UP and 14/50/7 with BP

10/54/7
At first I want to say that 10/54/7 is the specc for AoE DPS as you have HB!
BP should be used on non moving encounters with less to none adds.
With BP I ignored HB Proccs, as they would destroy my rotation and they do less dmg then all other styles!
UP should be used on moving heavy encounters with some adds.
With UP hold your Runes on CD and use as many proccs as you can, while FS > HB!

14/50/7
Single Target Max DPS Specc (Could use one point in UA instead of crit, as prefered!), RP fits in PERFECTLY!
UP not needed as you don't have HB and Runepower problems


TESTS:
(Screenshots)
First: 10/54/7 using BP
Second: 10/54/7 using UP
Third: 14/50/7 using BP

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So that's it!
Hope I could help someone or you could give me some tips?!
If there are any spelling mistakes it is because English isn't my first language!

best regards,
Tianmi

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Old 07/13/09, 5:43 PM   #6203
Mystyle
 
Night Elf Warrior
 
<IT>
Khadgar (EU)
Simple question, it's giving me a hard time though.

[Girdle of Embers] or [Belt of the Titans]. I gemmed the [Plans: Belt of the Titans] with +20 str/+8str+12sta/+16str

16 expertise with [Girdle of Embers], 34% ArP.
22 expertise with [Belt of the Titans], 29,5% ArP.

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Old 07/13/09, 6:16 PM   #6204
WoWmasta101
 
Orc Death Knight
 
Garrosh
Horde Blood 4pc?

i was just curious about the Horde Blood part of this and just want to know if getting 4pc over a few other items is worth doing or just sticking with 2pc

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Old 07/13/09, 6:46 PM   #6205
Indisputable
 
Blood Elf Hunter
 
Illidan
BiS Gear

Does anyone have an updated link for a MM BiS Gear List(including Hardmodes) as well as one for Survival(again including Hardmodes).

Thanks, in advance.

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Old 07/13/09, 6:47 PM   #6206
Kaan
Piston Honda
 
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Orc Warrior
 
Blackrock (EU)
[Girdle of Embers] and socket your gems to the expertise dodge cap of 26. Otherwise try the spreadsheet - but Girdle of Embers is most certainly better.

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Old 07/13/09, 6:52 PM   #6207
schit
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Orc Hunter
 
Aegwynn
Saizul: excellent explanation. Thank you. I got it now.

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Old 07/13/09, 8:43 PM   #6208
Lilyana
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Steamwheedle Cartel (EU)
Go to the best Spreadsheet DPS topic, you can download the spreadsheet there with BiS.

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Old 07/13/09, 8:54 PM   #6209
Macloud
Piston Honda
 
Goblin Hunter
 
Mal'Ganis
Originally Posted by Indisputable View Post
Does anyone have an updated link for a MM BiS Gear List(including Hardmodes) as well as one for Survival(again including Hardmodes).

Thanks, in advance.
I won't be surprised if you get an infraction for that, but here you go.

Best Possible DPS in Shandaras WotLK Spreadsheet

Best Possible DPS in Shandaras WotLK Spreadsheet

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Old 07/13/09, 9:09 PM   #6210
Aern
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Orc Hunter
 
Mal'Ganis
I'm really liking this, for all the guys who can't play around with the full spreadsheet because they don't have word it is a great tool. Definitely need to spread the word about this one.

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