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Old 07/22/09, 7:33 AM   #6451
Vaqrithus
 
Undead Death Knight
 
Earthen Ring (EU)
So in 3.2 I decided to try DW with the new incoming talent.
What weapons do suggest I get?
(Being in a casual ulduar raiding guild.)

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Old 07/22/09, 7:50 AM   #6452
Taklok
Glass Joe
 
Human Death Knight
 
Vol'jin (EU)
Slow weapons should be the best if nothing changes.

In ulduar you have:
- a sword on razorscale 10men (2.60)
- a sword on kologarn 25men (2.50)
- a mace on thorim 25men (2.60)

There are other slow weapons in hard modes but you mentioned casual so I guess you have no access to them.

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Old 07/22/09, 8:21 AM   #6453
Kifa
Banned
 
Orc Death Knight
 
Twilight's Hammer (EU)
alternative to Melancholy Sabatons

Im having a pretty hardtime getting the Melancholy Sabatons since i didnt start my raiding until begning of february. Im pretty hardcore raiding atm, downed all of ulduar.
Is there a substitue for the boots? Any mail or leather? I dont seem to find any plate with ArP in ulduar at all.

Ofc my spec is blood ^^

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Old 07/22/09, 9:10 AM   #6454
mikepiazzat
Glass Joe
 
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Tauren Hunter
 
Dunemaul
I was wondering if either [Grim Toll] or [Mjolnir Runestone] are needed to make the swap from Surv to Marks if my Armor Pen is high enough.

Sorry this has probably been posted but I'm at work and don't have time to read the posts.

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Old 07/22/09, 9:24 AM   #6455
arlen
Piston Honda
 
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Tauren Paladin
 
Sen'jin
No you don't need those trinkets to switch to MM. Marksmen takes over survival dps well before you're able to meet the armor pen build. As always, using the spreadsheet or dps analyzer would be the best way to see which spec is better for your current gear set.

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Old 07/22/09, 11:34 AM   #6456
Rakki
Von Kaiser
 
Dwarf Death Knight
 
Blackrock
Originally Posted by Kifa View Post
Im having a pretty hardtime getting the Melancholy Sabatons since i didnt start my raiding until begning of february. Im pretty hardcore raiding atm, downed all of ulduar.
Is there a substitue for the boots? Any mail or leather? I dont seem to find any plate with ArP in ulduar at all.

Ofc my spec is blood ^^
You can easily find out from Wowhead Items - World of Warcraft

At a glance, [Boots of Living Scale] seem to be the best choice due to low agi, high AP, low stam and two sockets. Moreover, they are crafted BoEs from Leatherworking.

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Old 07/22/09, 12:34 PM   #6457
Keemen
 
Draenei Death Knight
 
Silver Hand
Blood Boil

Something I have found out not by doing, but looking at some WWS logs, DRW works with Blood Boil. WoW Meter Online - Combatlog Replay
and WoW Meter Online - Combatlog Replay
My question is, what would be the rotation? IT, PS, Pest, DRW, BT, DS, DS, BBx7?

I have read the whole thread, and not found anything on DRW and Blood Boil, excuse me if I missed it.

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Old 07/22/09, 1:35 PM   #6458
PristineChaos
Von Kaiser
 
Human Death Knight
 
Doomhammer
Originally Posted by Keemen View Post
Something I have found out not by doing, but looking at some WWS logs, DRW works with Blood Boil. WoW Meter Online - Combatlog Replay
and WoW Meter Online - Combatlog Replay
My question is, what would be the rotation? IT, PS, Pest, DRW, BT, DS, DS, BBx7?

I have read the whole thread, and not found anything on DRW and Blood Boil, excuse me if I missed it.
I am not sure why you posted a log from 2009-04-28.
The DRW + Blood Boil issue has been long since fixed.

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Old 07/22/09, 1:40 PM   #6459
Keemen
 
Draenei Death Knight
 
Silver Hand
Originally Posted by PristineChaos View Post
I am not sure why you posted a log from 2009-04-28.
The DRW + Blood Boil issue has been long since fixed.
Thank you for solving that problem for me, i was not understanding it, since I have never done it or seen it done.

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Old 07/22/09, 2:47 PM   #6460
Iluzione
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Bronzebeard
Mutilate Build

So, before anyone goes on about how simple my question is and how readily available some of the information pertaining my question can be, let it be known that the answer is not clear to me, most probably due to the fact that it varies depending on the situation. My question is what is the "proper" (most conventional) rotation for Mutilate build when in PvE and when in PvP? I've tried several different rotations without "success" (Refering to dps reached on sheet).

There is also talk about useful skills to be used around the rotation, the list is extensive as i've spent a good 50 hours reading about this topic, forums here included. So let me know. I realize there is another thread that seems perhaps more pertinent than this one towards to topic but i find it fits in well here, as it ties in with balancing other abilities within the so called rotation.

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Old 07/22/09, 2:52 PM   #6461
Ormack
Von Kaiser
 
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Undead Rogue
 
Shadow Council
Well one your asking in the wrong spot. Second the info you need you can find in the first post
Here. http://elitistjerks.com/f78/t37183-p...updated_3_1_a/

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Old 07/22/09, 2:55 PM   #6462
Iluzione
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Bronzebeard
Mutilate build

Wow, I feel like a complete tool. Rest assured I did read the forums extensively, I am apparently blind.

Thanks for the guidance.

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Old 07/22/09, 6:50 PM   #6463
badass119
 
Human Paladin
 
Proudmoore
Changes?

So After all this Contending Has anyone come up with a detailed tutorial or just an overall page on what changes are gonna need to be made to maximize dps and any kind of new stats they'll be leaning toward. glyphs librams weapon types ect ect. new rotations and how prioritizing will be needed in 3.2?

After reading over 18 pages of this thread ive seen a billion diff approaches and opinions. when can i expect a final decition or perhaps a general idea from which to experiment with?

Last edited by badass119 : 07/22/09 at 6:56 PM.

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Old 07/22/09, 10:27 PM   #6464
Towgrunt
 
Draenei Shaman
 
<EPU>
Proudmoore
so when does a noob who understands nothing you guys are saying get to learn what the new DW spec and rotation are so he can prepare for patch day

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Old 07/23/09, 1:13 AM   #6465
Dîabolos
Glass Joe
 
Human Death Knight
 
Farstriders
I came up with this build and I was wondering with the new unholy blight if you guys think that it could be superior to the same build only with DRW (assuming you're using SotVH.

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...&version=10128

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