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Old 07/26/09, 1:49 PM   #6541
HolyCow
Glass Joe
 
Human Paladin
 
Aegwynn
Originally Posted by Zaroua View Post
Well as it's been discussed and shown on the WoW forums, Beacon of Light no longer benefits from double dipping with healing modifiers. That means healing Hunter pets or Mute Rogues/Feral Druids and getting more healing done on the tank isn't going to work; flipside is that Beacon will work through Mortal Strike-type debuffs. Before the presses are stopped I think it'd be nice to point out that being able to ignore negative healing effects is very likely an oversight and it's likely the changes aren't final.
Does it also mean divinity will give us 5% extra healing on the beacon instead of 10%?

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Old 07/26/09, 5:06 PM   #6542
proga
Glass Joe
 
Human Warrior
 
Гордунни (EU)
Please note that there is no ring Band of Lights [Band of Lights] in spreadsheet. It's Algalon 10 loot.

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Old 07/26/09, 5:50 PM   #6543
Punisherx
Glass Joe
 
Undead Rogue
 
Burning Legion
I have a question I just got Widows Fury for my OH and I have greed as my MH. Will this combination be viable with CQC? My stats got a nice boost with WF cause I use to have Titansteel Shanker aand my Crit is higher with WF then with TS. So is it a bad idea to use Greed with Widows Fury?

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Old 07/26/09, 6:06 PM   #6544
derekroland
 
Korax
Orc Warrior
 
Thrall
I have a few quick questions.

A. The hit cap for Fury is at 361, but how necessary is this. I was using the training dummies with about 345 hit in Org and seemed to be missing a lot, is this because I am not at the cap?

B. Gem until about 30ish crit chance, then Strength?

This is my first character and I just hit 80, so I'm still very new and would just like some suggestions because I am struggling with my dps atm.

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Old 07/26/09, 6:47 PM   #6545
campiona
Von Kaiser
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Eitrigg
Originally Posted by Towely View Post
Basicly now im only makeing sure snd is up all the time and rupture up as much as possible.
Sometimes that makes me do a 5cp snd or a 1-2 cp snd.
Is playing like this just bad?
Is it accually better to just do something like 4s/5r/5e rotation and just keep that up?
I have talked to some other rogues about this and there dont seem to be no direct awnser if this is a good play style or if this playstyle will be a dps loss/win over a fixed rotation.
After several months of routinely losing the DPS race to an undergeared rogue in my guild, I realized through study of Recount reports, etc., where I was failing. And it ties directly to what you're mentioning here, e.g. the question of whether or not to mash the finisher despite the number of combo points, or to wait until you have a full complement of 5.

Relentless Strikes results in an enormous boost to your total energy during a long boss fight -- if and only if you are disciplined and use as many 4-to-5-combo point finishers as possible.

For the longest time, I'd mash a 2 or 3 combo point finisher just to "keep it up," but in reality, I was gimping my overall damage because the rotation/cycle had very little stability and wasn't proccing Relentless Strikes with as much return. Factor in the movement requirements and other mechanics in most boss fights (like the Ignis pot, or the Kolo grip, or the Yogg constrictor tentacles, etc.), it becomes VERY important to manage a 4-5s/5r/5e rotation as much as possible to squeeze as much energy out of Relentless Strikes.

The net result: more energy = more opportunity to do more damage on each GCD. My suggestion is to stick with the 4s/5r/5e rotation/cycle as much as you can.

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Old 07/26/09, 7:05 PM   #6546
landsoul
Myrmidon Champion
 
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Worgen Warrior
 
Alterac Mountains
Please note that I already know that, as it's listed in the first post. Please read it before posting a bug or error.

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Old 07/26/09, 7:22 PM   #6547
proga
Glass Joe
 
Human Warrior
 
Гордунни (EU)
sorry

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Old 07/27/09, 6:17 AM   #6548
Batory
Glass Joe
 
Worgen Rogue
 
Proudmoore
i'm thinking myself to try HAT out, as I've been running with mutilate and combat all time and I know what I can expect from those builds pretty much (been actually swaping between those depedning on encounter).

my problem is absolute lack of fist weapon drop so far (nothing from uld heroic, nothing from uld hardmodes meh!). the only viable MH weapon I got is [Vulmir, the Northern Tempest], [Combatant's Bootblade] will obviously go for a offhand*. if I read the topic correctly, I guess [Perilous Bite] is not an option for MH at all.

there are 2 builds i'm considering to test:
standard Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft
and this: Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

not sure if its worth to drop combat mace for this actually. I'm not elitist, so any insight would be very helpfull here

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Old 07/27/09, 6:46 AM   #6549
 Jellinator
Bounty Hunter
 
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Human Rogue
 
Turalyon (EU)
Any stat analysis for 3.2 yet or just another 14 pages of fanfic repeating the ptr notes in 460 different ways?

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Old 07/27/09, 7:34 AM   #6550
Bliksem
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Draenor (EU)
Thanks for the lesson. I'll crawl back into my hole now.

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Old 07/27/09, 7:46 AM   #6551
Cherrylips
Banned
 
Human Mage
 
Darkspear (EU)
Two subjects:

1)
the mention of intellect as a useful stat to a frost mage indicates that whoever wrote the Q&A doesn't really know mage specs very well.
Yes. Unfortunately, this is happening quite often lately (remember the post about mirrors threat). I guess that Blizzard is hiring new personal, which doesn’t know class mechanics in deep. They have to keep implementing new content, so their business goes on. But it seems that WoW is a little bit out of control. Arcane erratic evolution is a good example.


2) Blizzard created hybrid classes and pure classes. So, they should understand that some players like to specialize in one single way of playing.
In my case, I studied in deep all mage specs for more than 5 years (ex, when the Frost Elemental was implemented I developed a Lock just to study in deep pet caster combat, and a Shadow Priest to learn casting tricks that I could apply to my mages) from all that I chose Arcane, not because is better or worse, just because I like the way to play it.
Blizzard seems not to understand that Arcane vs. Fire is as different in the way of playing as a Lock vs. a Shadow Priest. Actually, Fire follows in part the “dot casting” philosophy of other caster dps classes. But the straight dps fight of Arcane is unique.

Some of us chose Arcane and kindly ask Blizzard not to be excluded from the game.

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Old 07/27/09, 9:27 AM   #6552
Cooljo
Von Kaiser
 
Human Rogue
 
Wrathbringer (EU)
Lethality is a waste of talent points...
And the offhand speed does just matter in terms of DP application speed, so if you don't constantly swap targets a 1.8 dagger would also do the job

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Old 07/27/09, 9:41 AM   #6553
Istaril
Piston Honda
 
Undead Rogue
 
Mal'Ganis
Cooljo is correct; the only times where Lethality might be worth it over the 3 points in Vile Poisons would be (if at all) when using Hemo too often to justify even being HAT.

You'll find Mavanas' spreadsheet does a good job of modelling HAT - play around with that to see where your ideal HAT spec lies (and if it's worth even trying with the crit rates of your current group and your gear level). With your MH, I suspect it'll be 2/5 Lethality, 3/3 Vile Poisons.

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Old 07/27/09, 11:52 AM   #6554
minekomineko
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Medivh
Usually when I prepare to use berserk, I'll let my energy fill up to at least 80. I've also gotten into the habit of hitting Tiger's Fury right before berserk if it's up and my energy is low, just to speed up the process. My question is, is this wise? The extra damage component from Tiger's Fury is completely wasted since berserk wipes Tiger's Fury. Is the damage gain from berserk worth losing the Tiger's Fury damage buff?

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Old 07/27/09, 12:46 PM   #6555
flshamy
 
Troll Shaman
 
Area 52
flshamy

The World of Warcraft Armory

I was linking maybe to get a few pointers on where to find some more hit. Also wanna learn a rotation. It would be very helpful.

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