Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 440

Aldoness · 07/28/09, 2:18 PM

PvP as a rogue is easy, go after people laughing as they run from you faster than if they were feared. Use sprint, catch them, stunlock them, kill them, and laugh some more.

Erdluf · 07/28/09, 2:25 PM

Originally Posted by Damitus

hey guys rolling a druid and wanted to know is this the highest possible dps spec with no mana regen?
Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

To maximize single-target target-dummy DPS, you'd max Eclipse, and also move your Typhoon/Gale Wind points into Genesis.

For more realistic fights, you still want to maximize Eclipse. There are a number of "optional" talents (Genesis is not optional. Don't take it). Fight mechanics will determine which of these are best:

Improved Moonfire, Brambles, Nature's Reach, Owlkin Frenzy, Improved Fairie Fire (optional for trash only), Typhoon, Gale Winds, Nature's Focus (points might come from Furor or IMotW). In rare cases you might give up some IIS for for one of the others I listed. I'd add Moonglow to the list, but you said no mana issues.

In some situations, it would be an improvement to put Glyph of Starfall in place of one of your others.

If you ever have mana concerns, Omen of Clarity can be a huge boost for a single talent point (chain multiple Hurricanes together for the mana cost of one, get a free Starfall from melee or IS).

Read Moonkin beginner guide

LawnGnome83 · 07/28/09, 2:30 PM

Originally Posted by notester

Just a quick question. A fury Warior Duel welding two 2handers with TG if i have my math right

8% base
5% TG
19% DW
---------
32% miss chance
-3% Precision
--------
29% miss chance. At 32.79 point per % at 80 is 951 Hit Rating needed for all White and Yellow damage, never miss.

Am i correct?

No. The 5% TG hit penalty was removed and replaced with 10% physical damage reduction. So, with precision you have a 24% chance to miss.

Romple · 07/28/09, 2:45 PM

Originally Posted by zep

this may be a silly question... but what do you mean by "dump" ? ty Z

As in dump your Runic Power, usually while all runes are on cooldown. For example, cast 2-3 Deathcoils or Frostrikes or whatever abilities you have that consume Runic Power.

bchorn · 07/28/09, 2:50 PM

Originally Posted by notester

Just a quick question. A fury Warior Duel welding two 2handers with TG if i have my math right

8% base
5% TG
19% DW
---------
32% miss chance
-3% Precision
--------
29% miss chance. At 32.79 point per % at 80 is 951 Hit Rating needed for all White and Yellow damage, never miss.

Am i correct?

Capping your White Damage to never miss while DW is a pointless exercise that will only cost you in terms of other more valuable stats (like str, crit, arp, expertise). You only need to worry about capping your yellow attacks (which is 5% hit with precision). In other words, you have WAY too much hit right now. Take some hit gear off and replace it with gear that has Crit and ArP and your dps will increase.

BTW...when was the last time you read the tooltip on Titan's Grip? It's changed a little since the last time you looked at it.

dravok · 07/28/09, 4:16 PM

I just started tanking and I have some questions for veteran tanking DKs. I am using Frost for tanking heroics at this moment. I know many have said that it is better suited for those instances but the rotation and feel of it just doesn't feel right for some reason.

I have been considering switching over to blood but I have some doubts. I am concern about whether my gear is capable of using it and worry about AoE situations. I'm in my DPS gear atm but off the top of my head I have 555 defense (I know its too high), over 27k hps, 21% dodge, and 17% parry.

Poromu · 07/28/09, 4:35 PM

Originally Posted by Erdluf

To maximize single-target target-dummy DPS, you'd max Eclipse, and also move your Typhoon/Gale Wind points into Genesis.[/url]

If you're going to max dps, you'll probably pull threat without Nature's Reach.

Also just putting it out there, but isn't Owlkin Frenzy more dps than Genesis? (Of course this excludes some fights but on average it'll pull ahead.)

randyflagg · 07/28/09, 5:01 PM

Dravok, there's a regular DK tanking thread that would be better suited to this question. This thread is for endgame tanking (currently Ulduar).

dhthomps · 07/28/09, 5:24 PM

Can anyone link parses from 3.2 test patchwerks?

If the patch is as severe as I'm imagining I'd like to have our paladin tank start working on tanking Hodir hardmode.

PixitoBE · 07/28/09, 7:07 PM

Can you give me a replacment for theese items from the BiS section :P ? :

The neck from general vezzax 25 men hardmode with which neck i can replace it ?
The ring from the quest to killing algalon ... with which ring i can replace it ?
The trinket from alga 25 ... with which i can replace it ?

My guild is on Freya hardmode etc but we are doing all hardmodes in 10 men and i am looking for the best items in our progress

Can you give a shot ?:P

phurst00 · 07/28/09, 8:23 PM

I'm sorry to post such a nub question, but I have seen various hit ratings posted and am hoping for a definite answer. How much hit is needed normally (no FA no dranei), with a dranei (no FA), with FA, and with FA + dranei? ty!

Bigperm · 07/28/09, 8:46 PM

Originally Posted by Kyth

It's very easy to just configure UnderHood that way.

Just figured it out

Thanks
-Pew

Mehknic · 07/29/09, 12:34 AM

Not on a target dummy. They don't hit back.

Damitus · 07/29/09, 1:10 AM

Originally Posted by Erdluf

To maximize single-target target-dummy DPS, you'd max Eclipse, and also move your Typhoon/Gale Wind points into Genesis.

For more realistic fights, you still want to maximize Eclipse. There are a number of "optional" talents (Genesis is not optional. Don't take it). Fight mechanics will determine which of these are best:

Improved Moonfire, Brambles, Nature's Reach, Owlkin Frenzy, Improved Fairie Fire (optional for trash only), Typhoon, Gale Winds, Nature's Focus (points might come from Furor or IMotW). In rare cases you might give up some IIS for for one of the others I listed. I'd add Moonglow to the list, but you said no mana issues.

In some situations, it would be an improvement to put Glyph of Starfall in place of one of your others.

If you ever have mana concerns, Omen of Clarity can be a huge boost for a single talent point (chain multiple Hurricanes together for the mana cost of one, get a free Starfall from melee or IS).

Read Moonkin beginner guide

Thanks bunches!

Foleg · 07/29/09, 4:26 AM

Hello,

I`ve read everything you post in this threat ... and I think that I`m doing something wrong
warlock=Warlock_T8_00_13_58
level=80
actions=flask,type=frost_wyrm/food,type=firecracker_salmon/fire_stone/fel_armor/summon_pet,imp
actions+=/curse_of_doom,time_to_die>=90/immolate/conflagrate/chaos_bolt/incinerate

Glyphs:

glyph_conflagrate=1
glyph_incinerate=1
glyph_immolate=1

my dps is still to low
could you help me with this? I don`t know what i`m missing ... and it`s hard to get better dps
on 25 man raids dps is around 4300 but on 10 man raids its 3300.

Thank you for your help,
Foleg