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Old 12/01/08, 2:39 PM   #1151
Bifuu
Glass Joe
 
Troll Hunter
 
Trollbane
Originally Posted by Cranch View Post
Per the spreadsheet, and assuming we can get enough hit from gear and gems, this is the highest dps talent and glyph build I was able to come up with for BM.

I'd like to see some proof of the assertion that 50/21/0 works better in reality.
This is the same build i use and i average at least 3k dps in 10 mans

im not sure about 25 mans because i havnt been able to do any yet

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Old 12/01/08, 5:15 PM   #1152
Spookydookie
Glass Joe
 
Undead Rogue
 
Anvilmar
Originally Posted by Demi9OD View Post
With the bugged 15% crit on Master Poisoner

=D
what's this you say?

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Old 12/01/08, 6:52 PM   #1153
Brookes
Glass Joe
 
Brookes's Avatar
 
Human Priest
 
Dalvengyr
Originally Posted by Brookes View Post
What would be the best professions for a PvE Hunter? Are First Aid and Cooking worth leveling? Is making Draenei for the extra 1% hit worth it?
I'm going to re-ask these questions and also, when should a BM Hunter switch between AotD and AotV?

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Old 12/01/08, 9:17 PM   #1154
Echion
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Hunter
 
Bladefist
Originally Posted by Echion View Post
What would be better for a 50/21 spec

[Meteorite Whetstone]
or [Fezzik's Pocketwatch]

I can't decide if the added haste thru out the fight would be better or if the extra AP during my BW/AotB cycles would be more beneficial.

Also, what should i be geming for mainly? In BC it was agility, but i have been reading things that say AP is the way to go.

Thanks
Anyone?

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Old 12/01/08, 10:11 PM   #1155
Jerez
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Nathrezim (EU)
pvp and pve spec is the same

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Old 12/02/08, 2:47 AM   #1156
MSJoeDaddy
Glass Joe
 
Undead Warlock
 
Uldaman
Originally Posted by dragon12 View Post
If you can't keep dots up you shouldn't be playing a warlock. This is a thread about getting the most out of Demonology, not about trying to figure out how to compensate for bad play.

You can be sure that any stuns, silence, movement affect shadowbolt spam more than dots.
I thought this was supposed to be an elite forum.
Why are idiots posting here?

Is there anyone else that actually understands what dangling dots are?
Is there anyone here that understands what a rotation is?
Is there anyone here that understand why rotations suck on fights that interrupt your rotation a lot?

If you weren't a complete moron you would understand why this is an important discussion regarding dps.
Consistency is as important as anything else regarding dps.

And trash is important to discuss, because the faster you clear trash the more attempts on bosses you will get in. Unless of course your guild raids 24/7 and neglects sleep and work and family and friends.

And as far as stuns silence and movement affecting shadowbolt more? Again you show just how much of a moron you are. Burst damage is infinitely better for fights where you are stopping damage for periods of time. If you don't understand this then maybe you need to go start from level 1 again. And anyone with half a brain will realize shadowbolt is superior in burst to every dot in the game.

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Old 12/02/08, 3:25 AM   #1157
Everune
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Mage
 
Terenas
Has anyone tried a FoF FFB build in dps calculators yet?

something like this: Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

Benifits will include:
a) ease
b)no scorch
c) high crit
d)frost utility

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Old 12/02/08, 4:09 AM   #1158
whiteshade
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Mage
 
Nagrand (EU)
Hi all,

this is my armory profile:

The World of Warcraft Armory

and as u can see specced as FrostFire Build... well, i'm not able to push to the dps done by lock and hunter in my guild. Any suggestion ?

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Old 12/02/08, 6:03 AM   #1159
Ivriniel
Piston Honda
 
Human Paladin
 
Outland (EU)
Does anyone have a complete list of missing Designs?

It seemed weird to me that most I know are Twilight Opal's.

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Old 12/02/08, 6:07 AM   #1160
Rerox
Piston Honda
 
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Dwarf Rogue
 
Proudmoore (EU)
Originally Posted by Ivriniel View Post
Does anyone have a complete list of missing Designs?

It seemed weird to me that most I know are Twilight Opal's.
Just 2 pages back, the list is there for you to find it ...
The WotLK profession thread

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Old 12/02/08, 6:42 AM   #1161
Sirgalahad
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Warrior
 
Baelgun (EU)
how much hit I need with tg 14% - is it correct? Additional I need -6,25% dodge?

Last edited by Sirgalahad : 12/02/08 at 6:47 AM.

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Old 12/02/08, 11:01 AM   #1162
comictxq
Banned
 
ancientelf
Night Elf Hunter
 
Non-US/EU Server
only for PVE,what about
Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

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Old 12/02/08, 1:14 PM   #1163
Acronis
 
Blood Elf Hunter
 
Shu'halo
I have been using hte 7/57/7 spec and have been out dpsing most people in better gear. According to the spreadsheet 15/51/5 is a bit more dps. Going to try that in nax tonight.

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Old 12/02/08, 2:13 PM   #1164
Phatpharm
Piston Honda
 
Gnome Mage
 
Bloodscalp
Rotations / Gear and Me

Hi all!

First off, thanks a lot for for the invaluable resource that this website is!

It does seem that haste and critical rating may be less useful with the new rotation Blizzard has dreamed up.

From what I am seeing, you either have the stock 100ish haste rotation, or one with an extra spell slipped in at quite a high haste rating. Question is: would that one spell equal all the lost +SD tacked on to all the other damage in the rotation .... assuming we have geared all +SD vs Haste to test, and taking in account the new talent below.

It would appear that spell power (with the new patch that adds Shamanism) will start scaling better than it currently is.

This would actually lead to my gearing tendancies pre-70, where I wore a ton of cloth with mostly pure +SD (due to no chain having this) .. of course it scaled way better back then due to the coefficient, and it seemed I had found a means to be top dps

I am still blowing the charts on my way to 80, and I know it is all "balanced" for L80 .. think it's mostly due to my epics vs the PUGs gear though .... lol.

http://http://www.wowarmory.com/char...n=Twistdsister

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Old 12/02/08, 3:20 PM   #1165
mandala
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Druid
 
Mal'Ganis
Resto Keybinds

Not sure where as to put this since i cannot make new threads, but what are other Druids Keybinds? Specifically Resto druids? I have my own set, but it would be nice to see others as to maximize "finger" efficiency (no jokes please ) As well as possible UI SS.

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Old 12/02/08, 3:47 PM   #1166
Reknar
Glass Joe
 
Orc Warrior
 
Sisters of Elune
WTB a fury version of this thread.

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Old 12/02/08, 4:24 PM   #1167
Wraith40k
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Uther
My apologies, and thank you for the answer.

Pre Wrath it was 'Hit, then shot speed to 1.92, then agility forever'

Now the answer is 'It depends' - I am good with that. What prompted the original post was the weird feedback the spreadsheet was giving me.

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Old 12/02/08, 4:25 PM   #1168
blecap
Banned
 
Absinte
Undead Priest
 
Thaurissan
Originally Posted by Nicarras View Post
All you need to do is calculate the DPCT for each spell for your gear to know the answer, but in general CoA is much better than CoD now. And get the Glyph for CoA as well.

Hope this helps.
Thanks for the info.

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Old 12/02/08, 4:25 PM   #1169
HellyardsOwn
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Icecrown
I'm disappointed that expertise doesn't scale with pets, not that I'd ever shoot for the stat. Just that I got an enhance shaman chest in (25 man I believe) Naxx, that was loaded with hit and expertise, and wasn't able to replace it until I got my Valorous t7 chest. I felt kind of sad knowing that even with all the expertise going to waste this was one of the better chest pieces currently in game for hunters.

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Old 12/02/08, 4:27 PM   #1170
themthatgot
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Silvermoon
Originally Posted by mandala View Post
Not sure where as to put this since i cannot make new threads, but what are other Druids Keybinds? Specifically Resto druids? I have my own set, but it would be nice to see others as to maximize "finger" efficiency (no jokes please ) As well as possible UI SS.
I don't have much keybound for my tree, but the obvious
tree form
nature's swifness/ healing touch macro
tranquility (suddenly in northrend mana issues are a myth and he ticks for 3k at 75 are AMAZING)
2 macros for equipping my tree gear, I leveled entirely on a pvp server and refuse to be caught off gaurd

Question of my own though. Leveling as resto I'm seeing a lot of leather caster gear with haste on it. While some of it is obviously meant to be dps (hit, excessive amounts of crit) it makes me wonder how useful this could be for me. Seems useless atm, but the more I read here the more I'm realizing I'm usually terribly wrong.

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Old 12/02/08, 5:15 PM   #1171
CowTree
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Druid
 
Uldaman
Originally Posted by mandala View Post
Not sure where as to put this since i cannot make new threads, but what are other Druids Keybinds? Specifically Resto druids? I have my own set, but it would be nice to see others as to maximize "finger" efficiency (no jokes please ) As well as possible UI SS.
I use grid/gridstatuslifebloom. F1-F3 and 1-4 are my healing spells and or debuffs; each has a macro which allows me to press alt and use whichever spell on mouse roll over... Using grid, I've found this to be rather efficient. I keep the tank, or weaker tank, targeted, and heal with Alt for the rest of the raid/party.

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Old 12/02/08, 6:54 PM   #1172
Rilkal
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Death Knight
 
Bronze Dragonflight (EU)
At 80, I plan on using this build to maybe be MT for my guild is it any good? Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

Last edited by Rilkal : 12/02/08 at 6:57 PM. Reason: puctuation error

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Old 12/02/08, 8:11 PM   #1173
CodeBandit
 
Tauren Shaman
 
Garona
Is it worth noting that Flametounge increases spell damage which would increase your Earth Shock and Lightning Bolt damage making Flametounge even more viable?

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Old 12/02/08, 8:48 PM   #1174
sihyunie
Piston Honda
 
Dwarf Hunter
 
Bonechewer
Thanks, I didn't even scroll right, so I couldn't see it.

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Old 12/02/08, 10:15 PM   #1175
wabox
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Mage
 
Akama
I want one O-o

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