Not sure if there's many people here knowledgeable about rogue PvP but hey maybe they're out there.

2 Slow weapons for Mutilate?

Hey all! First time long time, but I'm in a bind. Let me first say I'm new to being a druid. I did Recruit A Friend, so I barely know how to play a feral druid let alone resto. Not to say I don't know how to heal, I've guessed my way from 60-70 but it wasn't really that hard to get through instances.

Anyway, I'm 71. I've done BT, Kara, and ZA to pick up as much gear as I could, and plan on just healing/tanking through instances and DPSing through quests. But this post is about resto.

1) I need a spec. The one I'm using now doesn't work at all for me. Right now I am all PVE, I'll worry about PVP when I become better at healing. Also, I was unsure of what glyphs to use, as I don't have Nourish (which I see a lot of people using).

2) What are some rotations? I understand each situation calls for different heals. But I am unsure of how to heal a tank, a DPS, and oh shit situations.

3) And general healing tips. I'm used to pally healing, and obviously this is very different.

Here's a link to my armory: The World of Warcraft Armory

VE at start then use rotation "VT>MB>DP>MF", once all buffs/debuffs are applied then place SWP and restart/continue the rotation.

SWD whenever you are forced into movement.

Edited for clairity and accuracy.

I think I had a bug or something strange that was happening today... when I cast MF, it was renewing my DP and my SWP. I since restarted WoW and it stopped... very odd...

Grabbed a trophy today in 25man and I figured I would get the 245 shoulders first since I have the 8.5 4pc in the other slots, leaving shoulder open. Should I be shooting for the t9 2pc over the t8 4pc or just wait for gear to get the t9 4pc?

Hello Elitist Community,

I ve been doing quite some research on various mage mechanics, and regarding priority on LB Vs HS Pyro I usually see a statement saying something like "Living Bomb is almost always better to cast first".

I would like if someone explained to me, why this is the fact, because my common sense tells me that if I get a HS procc and a Living Bomb expiration up together, that if I cast Living Bomb, there is a real chance of my Pyro getting rewritten with new HS during that time which also sometimes happens. Why is having LB up 1 second sooner worth a chance of losing say 7000 average damage + possible ignite ? Even if that 1 second meant one more bomb is going to make it to the explosion untill the end of the fight. the final tick is still less dmg than that pyroblast, and you would need say average 6 of such saved seconds to help one bomb explode and you are guaranteed to lose a HS or two if u chose LB over HS in 6 situations.

I am not really good at these crafts so someone will probably prove me wrong but I would like to see it )

Also it is possible that when ppl say LB is prefered they only mean a situation when u get both events in a situation where another HS is not expected to happen (i.e last fireball did not crit), but in a situation, where HS procced at start of another fireball cast they rather use HS in order not to lose the procc.

When I watched raid videos of mages from good guilds it seemed very inconsistent or maybe it wasnt really clear to observe.

Thank you for help and explanation hopefully.

I originally posted this on wrong thread and it will get deleted so I ll transfer my responses to the people who answered there:

To Epoh:

Well if you look at it from the other point of view, you get 6k pyro (or 14k or 25k on some fights ..) which u can lose during that second if u dont cast it in time and it really does happen in quite few situations during each fight and if you think it doesn't try and watch out for it in next raid. Especially during fast casts (BL, Haste pot, Boss fight buffs ...) and thanks to tier 8 4pc bonus which makes the override even more likely. On the other hand, the LB only gets delayed by one second ... So you can't compare all dmg of LB u only lose one tick of it at the end of the fight if you delay it by a second. So it is possible pyro loss Vs 1 LB tick I'd say.

To Semata:

I don't know if you only skimmed through my post or if I didn't express myself well enough, but I obviously know that LB application doesn't effect HS proccs. I am talking about the other situation when u have previous FFB/FB critted and another one is about to fly in. How would losing the pyro not be a big deal ? You visit forum where people talk about how every single little point of caster stat is gonna matter to dps in raids and you don't care about several thousand if not tens of thousand instant damage couple times over the fight ?

I am sure I am not right if so good mages say otherwise and I would like to know why but these arguments didn't seem very convincing ..

Yeah sorry, newish to EJ and I didn't even think to look if there was a PvP forum. So set in thinking the Rogue forum is the only thing on EJ >.<

Thanks for the response.

This is a bad joke the PTR patch notes, or?

Blizzard is just brainfucked -.-

Singletarget dps from rogue is not high as hybrind classes and then they nerf our AOE which is not the best when you dont use AR to spam fok, WTF????

1) 11/0/60, 14/0/56 (with NG) or 18/0/52 (with CF) are the usual specs. Try and think on your own which talents would be best. It's not that hard at all.
2) Become 80 and try on your own. It's not that difficulty. Really not.
3) Don't use Healing Touch. All other spells are great. Use them!

Recently i switched to fury after getting the hard mode general vezax sword and not really happy with my performance. Top 20 on wmo scoreboards for arms on 4 fights and 1 for fury, but i dunno my dps seems kinda low. Going by landsoul's spreadsheet fury is about 200dps over arms, but looking at my parses i seem to be doing a lot worse.

Fury seems really dumbed down compared to arms, but i'm worried i might be doing something wrong. Its just Start with WW and spam WW/BT/HS and use slam procs and execute when WW and BT are on CD and using your CDs every time they are up, correct? Is there anything different people have been doing or is it just that i still don't have the gear to support fury?

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How can I calculate spirit regen (while not casting) and mp5 per 1 point of spirit and per 1 point of intellect? I've found some numbers around, but apparently these wont do anylonger, since a patch sometime changed things (40% less spirit regen I think).

Moonkin or Tree? Using talents like Dreamstate?