Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 480

Sithris · 08/19/09, 3:52 PM

The Tier 8, 4 set bonus for rogues is amazing and I'm sure alot of people would hate to see it go. What I would like to know is at what point does the stat increases plus set bonuses in the tier 9 armour add more dps than keeping the 4 piece tier 8? I'm going to take a wild guess but I would think it would be the highest tier of tier 9. If that makes sense.

Strompan · 08/19/09, 4:22 PM

How much hit % should i have atleast as frost?

CrowneVict · 08/19/09, 5:35 PM

Hey all - I brought this up a while back in the MM thread, but it's really more of an SV question. I'm wondering if anyone has done any experimenting with using Volley between ES cooldowns on a fight like General in Ulduar. Just on a whim, I tried tossing out some volleys in my ArPen MM spec (hardly any haste, and low AP makes it less than ideal for volley).

It looks like Shadow Crash was dropping my channel time down to around 2 - 2.5 seconds. That, plus the nature of magic damage being much greater than physical damage on this fight... makes me wonder why not go with a 100% magic damage rotation? ES > BA > Sting > Volley, Volley, Volley > ES > Volley, Volley, Volley > etc

Maybe a spec like:
Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft
Probably don't need sniper training on General.

If someone with decent SV gear wants to try it out sometime, let me know how it worked out for you. I'm in the process of building up a haste-based, high agi, SV set for the purpose of clearing AoE trash... and to just try stupid ideas like this.

nogame · 08/19/09, 5:36 PM

As for how to differentiate between two items which share same name, different ids, one from herioc and the other from normal, here is the part of the XML file from the armory which you can use:

<itemSource areaId="4722" areaName="Trial of the Crusader (25)" creatureId="35216" creatureName="Lord Jaraxxus" difficulty="h" dropRate="3" value="sourceType.creatureDrop"/>
<itemSource areaId="4722" areaName="Trial of the Crusader (25)" creatureId="35216" creatureName="Lord Jaraxxus" difficulty="n" dropRate="3" value="sourceType.creatureDrop"/>

You can use the getAttributes method (or excel equivalent one) to fetch [difficulty], and compare it to "n" or "h".

link: http://www.wowarmory.com/item-tooltip.xml?i=ITEM_ID

Hope this helps.

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CrowneVict · 08/19/09, 5:37 PM

Hey all - I brought this up a while back in the MM thread, but it's really more of an SV question. I'm wondering if anyone has done any experimenting with using Volley between ES cooldowns on a fight like General in Ulduar. Just on a whim, I tried tossing out some volleys in my ArPen MM spec (hardly any haste, and low AP makes it less than ideal for what I had in mind).

It looks like Shadow Crash was dropping my channel time down to around 2 - 2.5 seconds. That, plus the nature of magic damage being much greater than physical damage on this fight... makes me wonder why not go with a 100% magic damage rotation? ES > BA > Sting > Volley, Volley, Volley > ES > Volley, Volley, Volley > etc

Maybe a spec like:
Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft
Probably don't need sniper training on General. I doubt dropping ES for Imp Arcane + picking up Barrage would work, but who knows.

If someone with decent SV gear wants to try it out sometime, let me know how it worked out for you. I'm in the process of building up a haste-based, high agi, SV set for the purpose of clearing AoE trash anyhow... and to just try stupid ideas like this.

starlek · 08/19/09, 6:06 PM

Hey people, I've been reading for a lot of time this forums but hadn't posted anything yet, as I'm yet confused about this new patch and so, can anybody answer me to these questions?

- What's the best thing to gem with? Agi or ArP ? I guess ArP would be best to gem after some ArP coming from gear, if so, how much?

- Which are the stats we should be looking for in 3.2 ? I was going for crit and ap til now, but I don't know if ArP would be better.

Thanks for answers beforehand :P

yolly99 · 08/19/09, 6:11 PM

Hello guys,

this is my first post, so i'l ask one simple question:

Is it worth to break 4pt T8 for 2pt T9?

THank you

nomopofomo · 08/19/09, 6:39 PM

Landsoul already made a BiS list on the first page of the spreadsheet thread.

Spartan135 · 08/19/09, 8:20 PM

So we looking at late tonight or tomorrow for the 3.2 version?

Jovaras · 08/19/09, 8:20 PM

What's enh shaman's EP values in 3.2?(I mean stat values)

Thelyna · 08/19/09, 9:51 PM

Originally Posted by Spartan135

So we looking at late tonight or tomorrow for the 3.2 version?

It will be ready when it's ready and not before. Trying to impose your personal timescales on someone doing development work when they're doing it for fun/for the good of the community really isn't a wise idea.

Or to put it more bluntly, you don't call his shots until you pay his bills.

Worldie · 08/19/09, 9:51 PM

According to Ghostcrawler, SoC should not proc on HotR (and DS). However that's not how it's working on the PTR.

But i guess Public Test Realms have this name for a reason.

Wyldthang · 08/20/09, 12:30 AM

Originally Posted by nevermind

Because once in a while you'll actually sell the glyph, and rake in a lot of cash. It's the same for jewelcrafting. If noone has the gem listed, I'm listing with an insane price. Sure you get undercut some times, but overall there's higher profit involved.

Bingo.

Dyallo · 08/20/09, 3:50 AM

Originally Posted by dr_AllCOM3

4T9 should be good. I only did a guess, but it's at least 2-3% more damage.

You either aim for max Arp or max Arp minus trinket proc.

I guess we assume the setbonus is exactly the same as the Wandering Plague Talent.
Putting it about 2-3% more damage yeah. Pushing Strength in the APE's

How this works combined with the actual Wandering Plague talent should prove to be interesting, if you like diseases that is..
Anyhoo, we should try to get an APE of that setbonus to know which fits best once we get it (assuming we'd want to to achieve max potential) - Str or ArP

UD.Nexus · 08/20/09, 4:57 AM

Hey, I´m a long time reader and this is my first post.

After gemming Agi all the time I want to test out ArP now. But, is ArP still superior to Agi?

The other question is if my gear is better for ArP or would you stick with Agi? Since the new gems are out, I am a bit conufused.

Here is my armory: The World of Warcraft Armory

on another side. should I switch neck to

Thanks in advance and pls excuse my poor english, im swiss