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Old 08/21/09, 7:17 PM   #7261
Thanakar
Glass Joe
 
Troll Hunter
 
Eldre'Thalas
I have a gear question related to the Broach of Wailing vs the Ancient Pendant of Arathor. The spread sheet says that the Broach is a +6.25 Delta over the Pendant. Below are the deltas shown in game on the various stats.

-35 AP
+21 AG
+17 Stam
-8 Crit
+13 ArP

I'm still trying to learn my class and my question is for a Marks hunter is that +21 AG and +13 ArP really enough to offset the -35 AP loss from switching from the pendant to the broach? I've never really gotten into the numbers so I'm not sure what the true added benifit of ArP is since my ArP is only 280.

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Old 08/21/09, 8:18 PM   #7262
Kemortia
Von Kaiser
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Gilneas
Redudant :P

Eek, Shaman

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Old 08/21/09, 8:29 PM   #7263
Tacitus
Don Flamenco
 
Tacitus's Avatar
 
Goblin Warrior
 
Wildhammer (EU)
Originally Posted by Axl_Stukov View Post
Shadowmourne, not Frostmourne.
Duh, typos galore at 3:30 AM

Brotherhood, Peace, Unity

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Old 08/21/09, 8:56 PM   #7264
Unbeat
Glass Joe
 
Undead Warrior
 
Drak'thul (EU)
Hi , Are u using Heroic Throw in fury rotation(In gaps between BT a WW)?
Is it resseting swing timer, isn't it?

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Old 08/21/09, 9:55 PM   #7265
seth7
Glass Joe
 
Troll Rogue
 
Sunstrider (EU)
I was wondering is getting darkmoon card greatness still is a good option? At the moment, Im using Mjlonir/Grim Toll. So is it better to get DCG or to wait for Death Choice to drop?

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Old 08/21/09, 10:10 PM   #7266
Bliksem
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Draenor (EU)
Try punching both trinkets into the spreadsheet. The one that gives you the highest DPS is the winner. Did you read the posts above you?

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Old 08/21/09, 11:44 PM   #7267
Typeronin
Glass Joe
 
Orc Shaman
 
Kilrogg
By the way, folks...has anyone simmed how much of an upgrade the ilvl 245 2.60 speed weapons are over GSD and CoI, which are 2.70 speed?

Obviously a pair of the 258 weapons (Hellscream Slicer or Cudgel of the Damned) sim as BiS (as noted in the BiS discussions thread) but did anyone else find that GSD/CoI combo sims better than the 245 versions of these weapons, despite the 18DPS advantage they have over CoI and 8DPS advantage over GSD? I'm going to guess this is due to the 2.70 speed of our current BiS attainable in Ulduar.

Anyone else have similar findings or am I crazy?

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Old 08/22/09, 12:38 AM   #7268
Rubey
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Kael'thas
ah this is raid forum not preraid forum and yes those lousy blues are good on hit but i have a full tier set that offers alot lower hit

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Old 08/22/09, 2:40 AM   #7269
Whitenoob
 
Gnome Rogue
 
Azshara (EU)
Hello,

i have one question: I know you wanted to create a Spreadsheet for nearly BiS Gear, but I would like to use a Spreadsheet as well, so I asked myself if there is any possibility to add items myself, so I could for example add my items from trial of the Champion(the 5man) oder Naxx25 and calculate my dps. I would be thankful for a suggestion and I hope I don't ask this question for a 100th time, but I read the first post and found nothing and I hope you understand if I don't want to read 44 pages if there was a question like this ^^

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Old 08/22/09, 3:49 AM   #7270
StijnH
Glass Joe
 
Human Rogue
 
Aerie Peak (EU)
Originally Posted by MassMan View Post
It seems like t9.245 isn't worth it if you have access to toc10hc..

Both the 10manHC gloves and chest are significantly better than their t9.245 counterparts rather easily nullifying the 4set bonus.
I read this a few time but it does not make any sense to me.

T9.245 is TotC25 and TotGC10.

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Old 08/22/09, 7:38 AM   #7271
leonidas
Glass Joe
 
Human Death Knight
 
Aerie Peak
Originally Posted by Olereaper View Post
Guys it's completely just about outdated...comments like ArP not being important? hmmm methinks not Update from the author pls.

Sorry but ArP is not important. It is so useless they are scrapping it in the next expansion along with several other worthless stats.

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Old 08/22/09, 8:36 AM   #7272
Cowhow
 
Tauren Druid
 
Magtheridon (EU)
I use BadKitty, is simply and enought for me, tryed fbn and didnt like it.

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Old 08/22/09, 12:57 PM   #7273
deluge
 
Human Paladin
 
Skullcrusher (EU)
Let me just get this straight; Before 3.2 the seals would be used something like this:
Seal of Light/wisdown: Healers
Seal of Righteousness: No one
Seal of Blood/matyr: Retri pve
Seal of Command: Retri pvp
Seal of Vengeance/Curroption: Tanks
Of course with a few exceptions here and there, but hey doesn't really matter.

And now it looks more like:
SoL/W: Healers
SoR: Retri PvP
SoB/M: Removed
SoC: Perhaps tanks?
SoV/C: Retri PvE, Tanks

Am I totally wrong in this or has blizzard flipped everything around ? My own testing (sorry, but on target dummies) shows that command is... well crap. And vengeance lacks reliability and burst for my PvP purposes, thus leaving me with a strange spec and using glyph of SoR.

What do you fellow retri's use in what situation? as this seems to be very confusing for everyone (I still see retri paladins using seal of command, but they don't know why when I ask them).

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Old 08/22/09, 1:28 PM   #7274
Rurahk
Von Kaiser
 
Human Paladin
 
Shandris
Originally Posted by deluge View Post
Let me just get this straight; Before 3.2 the seals would be used something like this:
Seal of Light/wisdown: Healers
Seal of Righteousness: No one
Seal of Blood/matyr: Retri pve
Seal of Command: Retri pvp
Seal of Vengeance/Curroption: Tanks
Of course with a few exceptions here and there, but hey doesn't really matter.

And now it looks more like:
SoL/W: Healers
SoR: Retri PvP
SoB/M: Removed
SoC: Perhaps tanks?
SoV/C: Retri PvE, Tanks

Am I totally wrong in this or has blizzard flipped everything around ? My own testing (sorry, but on target dummies) shows that command is... well crap. And vengeance lacks reliability and burst for my PvP purposes, thus leaving me with a strange spec and using glyph of SoR.

What do you fellow retri's use in what situation? as this seems to be very confusing for everyone (I still see retri paladins using seal of command, but they don't know why when I ask them).
The cleave on SoCommand (next patch, right?) is what guarantees that it will be used by ret in AoE situations over SoR, plus the fact it can crit where Righteousness cannot. It remains to be seen whether picking up SoCommand for a tank will be worth the talent point. Some ret pallies have always used SoC even before Blood/Martyr was removed, and have been doing worse dps than they could be.

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Old 08/22/09, 1:32 PM   #7275
Nryrony
 
Orc Hunter
 
Dalvengyr (EU)
Hi, anyone tried a throw-weapon ? i mean i dont have a nax 25 rifle or ulduar weapon i just have a 147 dps gun, adding ammo we have here ~ 210 "weapon" dps...

For 25 "Emblem of Triumph" you get a 255 dps throw-weapon... thats ~ 40 dps more...

but yes with it comes trouble, the durability problem, and no scope... but in general could it be useful if youre ranged weapon isnt a 200 dps monster... or am i overlooking something... ?


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well okay it was new too me that throw-weapons dont count as weapons for hunters

Last edited by Nryrony : 08/22/09 at 1:48 PM.

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