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Old 08/26/09, 10:49 AM   #7411
Zeel
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Troll Hunter
 
Vek'nilash (EU)
Originally Posted by Ramone View Post
Couldn't find an answer to this anywhere, though i'm sure its here somewhere... what meant by the soft and hard caps for arpen for hunters and what values are they?
Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but as far as I know cap for ArP is 1232 ArP rating.
That way you'll get to 100% penetration.
As bosses have some damage reduction you'll need total of 104% Arp / 1282 ArP rating to negate that.

Hardcap means that you'll reach those numbers with your gear (and maybe consumables etc).
Softcap means that you'll have less ArP selfattained, but items like Mjolnir Runestone (665 ArP proc)
and Grim Toll (612 ArP proc) take you to cap when they proc.

Edit: typo

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Old 08/26/09, 11:04 AM   #7412
jschweitz
 
Tauren Druid
 
Terenas
Grunty fights the Zergling pet!

Hello,

We took a movie of a little-known feature of the new Grunty pet: he fights to the death with the Zergling pet! See it here:

NinjaCamp: Grunty the Murloc Pet fights the Zergling Pet!

I would really appreciate a link if you mention the story, thanks!

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Old 08/26/09, 12:37 PM   #7413
Cromus
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Worgen Druid
 
Earthen Ring (EU)
Has there been any research providing a basic haste cap to aim for? With the introduction of this new BiS totem and my already almost 500 base haste rating, I'm wondering if Potion of Wild Magic would be more beneficial to use during Bloodlust, rather than a Potion of Speed?
Although it is probably digressing this thread, I am getting numbers that suggest haste doesnt necessarily get worst as you start stacking high amounts of it. Haste is a bit special, you seem you have some nice "sweet spots", amounts of haste that sync rather well with the WF cd mechanic for example.

I haven't crunched some proper numbers yet, but just to give an idea:

My EP value given by the Sim for haste used to be quite low, around 1.5 -1.6, in 4T8.5 / ulduar25 gear with 424 haste rating. My guess would be that I was in a "sweet spot" for haste, and additional haste would shift my weapon speed to a lesser attractive sync spot with WF. Thus the only gain from haste would be increased white damage, which would explain the rather low EP value.

Now, I purchased the Totem of Electrifying Wind, ran the Sim, and my EP value for Haste shot up to 2.25.

Seemingly the extra 200 haste provided by that totem (with an excellent uptime) brings me to a point where stacking haste is alot more beneficial that it was before. Possibly because adding some haste would get my weapon speed to another of those "sweet spots" which seem to interact nicely with the WF cd.

This will of course strongly vary from player to player, as we all stack different amounts of haste, but the strong variation of Haste EP values at different haste levels is certainly worth looking at.

Last edited by Cromus : 08/26/09 at 12:59 PM.

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Old 08/26/09, 1:25 PM   #7414
Fajr
 
Orc Warrior
 
Altar of Storms
Hey Tetracycloide, I've been practicing the rotation:

IT PS HS HS DS
DS HS HS HS Pest
(2)
HS HS HS HS DS
DS HS HS HS Pest
repeat (2)

And i'm having problems Dumping RP, sometimes i see my self having topped my RP and no room to dump it.
Any lights here plz?

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Old 08/26/09, 3:11 PM   #7415
Darkclaw
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Tauren Shaman
 
Hyjal
Thanks! very handy addon.

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Old 08/26/09, 3:59 PM   #7416
urspace
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Druid
 
Illidan
I got [Death's Choice] last night.

Compare to [Darkmoon Card: Greatness], how much dps increased?

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Old 08/26/09, 5:20 PM   #7417
Matyivagyok
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Bloodscalp (EU)
Hey Guys! I've got questions about the moonkin gear in 3.2!!!
So...
1. What is the best Tier7/8/9 combination? Which set bonuses are the best?
2. The new idol (emblem of triumph) or the +starfire damage idol?

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Old 08/26/09, 5:23 PM   #7418
Phayde
Glass Joe
 
Undead Rogue
 
Shandris
I know this may seem mundane or even way off topic, and for that I apologize up front. At this point in my raiding, I have only a feral druid and a death knight whom are the only other melee dps classes who constantly top me on dps meters ( feral druid typically around 5-7k and the DK around 5-6k). I have been looking closely at the feral's gear, since in my opinion feral is close ( not exactly) to being like a rogue, and have noticed that he gems for all armor pen over agility. My question is this: Which is better for rogues in a pve raiding enviroment, agility or armor pen. as far as gemming goes?

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Old 08/26/09, 5:24 PM   #7419
Obeliske
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Tauren Shaman
 
Frostwolf
few questions

So ive got a few questions as of 3.2 that i really havnt found any hard answers for, several have been discussed before but nothing ive found validates anything from pre 3.2

Haste
Ive heard our cap is 511 with no server lag for a 5/4 rotation however i was running a 6/5 rotation with 611 haste and everybody on the wow forums servers was telling me not to stack so much haste and to repalce it with SP so i did a little to test and my rot has gone crazy... Somehow im pulling a 5/6 rot now with 564 haste.
Now i know some of this is due to my totem kicking in after my first/second LB cast but should i be taking that into account and losing 200 haste so i sit at approx 511 after the totem?
Also ive found a fwe (not many though) people saying i should be stacking haste after 3.2 it became a higher ep stat, at what point should i stop stacking it then and should i take into account my self buffs before that cap.

Second is Lava Burst
now according to posts here i shouldnt be reglyhing for this till i have roughly 4k sp... 2 things im wondering is where im supposed to get 4k sp (even in all t9 gear im only at 2500 (and yes i know once i get the t9 4p i should use it anyway)? and ive found some posts that say once i hit 2200 unbuffed sp i should switch over at what point unbuffed should i consider switching over?

T9 2p
As the T9 2 piece bonus increases the leangth of our FS on the target should i consider dropping that glyph instead of the ToW glyph as then all ill be losing is the crit or should i keep it and switch my rot to 5/5/4 (obviously this links back to the answer of my first question).

Unfortunatly all this ties into my first haste questions and any answer has a significant change to the second and third issues. Ill post a lin kto my armory so people can check my procs in case you need to know that for the first question.

This is my first post on these forums so i want to thank Everyone here for all the help theyve given me over the years (ive been reading these scince i started raiding during the last year of Vanilla) and i look forwards to reading more. Also im sorry if these questons are redundant ive been trying to find answers for almost a month on the wow forums/waiting for an update for the ele stuff here and i keep getting a lot of one person says this one person says that.

The World of Warcraft Armory

Last edited by Obeliske : 08/26/09 at 5:27 PM. Reason: Forgot to post link to Armory and spelling >.<

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Old 08/26/09, 5:42 PM   #7420
Zipia
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Pandaren Monk
 
Greymane
Updated both progression, recruitment needs, and contact info.

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Old 08/26/09, 5:43 PM   #7421
melth
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Stormrage (EU)
Originally Posted by Matyivagyok View Post
Hey Guys! I've got questions about the moonkin gear in 3.2!!!
So...
1. What is the best Tier7/8/9 combination? Which set bonuses are the best?
2. The new idol (emblem of triumph) or the +starfire damage idol?
This is actually answered in the OP of this thread.
I'll quote it so you don't have to click too much:
Set Bonuses

[...]
The T9 2-piece is very strong and you should aim to get it quickly. The T9 4-piece is mediocre and worth little to no upgrade over a 2T8/2T9 setup.

Idols

Buy Idol of Lunar Fury for Emblems of Triumph. Otherwise buy Idol of the Shooting Star for 25 Emblems of Valor.

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Old 08/26/09, 6:20 PM   #7422
idunno
 
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Undead Warrior
 
Velen
probably not...that 6 sec cd is still too long for me, not worth losing the crit to get it, especially now that there is an axe that is relatively easy to get from toc...even though it has not dropped for me yet 8(

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Old 08/26/09, 6:30 PM   #7423
sweberry
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Orc Death Knight
 
Darksorrow (EU)
Good thought, this isn't blood though, so think about the UA cooldown instead if anything (and what sane guild lets their blood DK hysteria themselves ... ).

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Old 08/26/09, 6:59 PM   #7424
Asphyxialol
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Blood Elf Death Knight
 
Mal'Ganis
Originally Posted by sweberry View Post
Good thought, this isn't blood though, so think about the UA cooldown instead if anything (and what sane guild lets their blood DK hysteria themselves ... ).
A guild where the blood DK is relatively routinely topping the DPS charts or coming in 2nd/3rd where the difference in who it is used on is trivial at best. That was a subject for discussion in the blood thread though, so let's keep it over there.

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Old 08/26/09, 7:23 PM   #7425
Sharyl
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Warrior
 
Varimathras (EU)
Hi,

First of all, excuse my poor english, I'm not a native speaker. I wanted to know, what was your priority between WW and BT? I don't have the 4p t8 bonus, and I used to think that WW had to be highly prioritised over BT; so, if BT's CD cleared 0.5 secs before WW's, I actually wait for WW. But I'm no sure that this is a good idea....

So, do you prioritise WW over BT too? And if you do (or if you don't), to what extend?

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