Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 497

Whitefyst · 08/27/09, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by fiveseven108

As a Marksmen Hunter what piece of tier 9.25 should i be buying first? i am in 4 piece conq with iron-strudded mantle shoulders and im really stuck on what piece to buy first.. any help would be great thank you

I was in a similar situation with comparable shoulders. The best option for me for spending triumph badges was the offset shoulders [Pauldrons of the Devourer]. They were about a 111 DPS upgrade per the spreadsheet.

tonic316 · 08/27/09, 10:27 AM

Looks like he got off more ES then you. So I would just assume he had a better proc rate on LnL and he beat you due to rng.

Onslaught · 08/27/09, 10:30 AM

I have 2 questions

1. Do I replace my tier 8.5 with the t9 gear that you get from the badges and trophy or the t9 you get from the heroic 25 man?

2.What do you need to get the last t9 gear from heroic 25 man?

Capulatio · 08/27/09, 11:05 AM

So how would I do Raid Healing? As I only have single target spells? Other than Wild Growth that is ^^

Darkstryder · 08/27/09, 11:09 AM

Armory: The World of Warcraft Armory

Last night I won Reckoning which boosted my haste which is great for survival in making your shot rot tighter with faster Steady shot, but the problem is I lose hit and crit from Twisted Visage.

1)How should I make the hit back 2x 34 hit gems?
2)Try to go for these Windrunner's Spaulders of Triumph
3)Get Shard of the Crystal Heart and be over hit cap and not worry about hit again

*I'm just really stuck on best way to get hit even though the sheet should using twisted visage still being more dps even with option 2 & 3 I think haste would be better than 1.5% crit I could be wrong but any insight would be helpful thank you

Morraftw · 08/27/09, 11:16 AM

Hi mates, I also got a question, I got these legs from FL HM, im not sure if i shall use them or use my conqueror t8 for the 4 set bonus, wich ones do you guys think is the best option to use?

Thank you

BigZyr · 08/27/09, 11:16 AM

Read the forum (even this topic) you will have your answer.

Clue.... Rejus 12-15 people and WG on CD if necessary... (reju X5, WG, repeat).

Kirothen · 08/27/09, 12:24 PM

I totally overlooked the above posts on KS and SnD, stupid me!

inorlive · 08/27/09, 2:22 PM

Thanks for the reply

Do you know where I can get an old version of the spreadsheet ?
(i want to get familiar with it)

Tenthplanet · 08/27/09, 3:04 PM

Originally Posted by TheRabidSniper

My Deep Destro Spec

Me: 27.58% crit (including Firestone enchant), 916 INT
My Imp: 739 INT (424 + 315, "Increases Spell Critical Hit by 5.34%")

Using a level 80 dummy in Darn, untapped:
1075 firebolts - 1020 non-crit, 55 crit - 5.1% crit

My Deep Demo Spec
- note: includes DT and ImpDT

Same gear; firestone still enabled. 37.78% crit chance, 916 INT
My imp: same as above
- So now, I'd assume the Imp has a crit chance of X+5(MD)+10(DT)+11.33(ImpDT - 0.3*37.78), where X may be just his 5.34% from INT, for a total of 31.67%

Same combat dummy, fewer just for resonable confirmation of influence of talents:
550 firebolts - 374 non-crit, 176 crit - 32.0% crit

Felguard: 90 AGI (5% melee crit), 487 INT (172 + 315, "...6.26%")
- interestingly, the FG gains more spell crit per point of INT

A few notes:
- The dummy I had chosen for the imp was a poor choice as it was right next to another dummy; meaning for each of the FG's Cleaves, he would hit at least two targets. However, I later found out that no dummy in Darn is far enough away from the others to stop multiple dummies being hit by one Cleave. Still, I needed to ensure he wasn't attacking two non-80 dummies (as that can have unwanted effects on crit chance), so I chose a different dummy for him to swing at, Cleaving into a second level 80 dummy.
- Multiple dummies being hit by one cleave doesn't seem to matter, as it turns out: as far as Recount cares, each target that is hit by a single Cleave attack counts as a separate Cleave attack.
- No matter how I am oriented to the dummy when I send the FG in, he always re-orients himself so that he's directly behind the dummy.

So, two level 80 dummies, for soaking hits and the extra Cleave:
Melee attack: 1693 attacks
- 1091 hits, 442 crits, 98 glancing, 42 dodges, 20 misses - 26.1% crit

Cleave attack: 1127 attacks
- 794 hits, 271 crits, 35 dodges, 15 parries, 12 misses - 24.0% crit

For the most part, they were within 1 or 2 percent of each other, whenever I checked them. The parries in the Cleave are only due to the second dummy that was slightly facing the FG, I believe.

You can probly use the dummy @ the Argent tournament grounds.

I'm still wondering if it will be a marginal boost or loss for going with the 4p t9 sets, has anybody been able to test this out yet? I only have 1 piece of t9 so far.

Trupapka · 08/27/09, 5:18 PM

Hi all,sorry i low speak english and dont understand more posts:=)Adriana can you create table with top gear for muti and kombat with gems in 3,2.I dont know what is top now.Its easy and understandly,Thank very much.
P.S. Sorry i no english man.

Jimney · 08/27/09, 5:26 PM

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Jarviz · 08/27/09, 6:20 PM

He also got off 9 more steady shots than you

Thorngar08 · 08/27/09, 8:53 PM

I am a fury warrior with 45% armor pen atm but want to decrease a tad for more crit i was wondering with grim troll to proc i should be fine with that as long as i stay at 40 or so if this is totally wrong can someone plz correct me currernty at 3.5-4k dps raid wise so if im uber low id like to know how to improve ty ty

h311ion · 08/27/09, 9:24 PM

Originally Posted by Consider

Uh, not quite. Blood actually has superior cooldowns. They have DRW, Hysteria, AotD, and Ghoul (which is essentially a CD for them). Unholy has Gargoyle and AoTD. And, besides, Kahorie's factors in gargoyle, DRW, etc.

Blood is superior to Unholy in terms of single target dps. It's really, really, really, really difficult (and probably not possible at all) to dispute that. They are higher on the spreadsheets, they are higher in the simulators, they are higher in the parses. In your guild it could be that you outperform your Blood partner, but that's more likely due to some failing on his part (no offense =p).

That said, Blood is not superior to Unholy in terms of overall contribution to the raid (by this I mean not just single target dps, but aoe dps, buffs, debuffs, survivability, so on). Which isn't to say Unholy is superior to Blood in the sum of all of these factors, just that it isn't clear cut. Which is better at single target dps is.

Lol I received some kind of infraction for my last post, I apologize. I'm going off my own experience here, that's all. IMO <-- MY OPINION, Unholy is superior to blood :P So I apologize for my own opinions here, I know this is a place of facts. I like to go off of experience and not spreadsheets, math or statistics.