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Old 08/28/09, 10:03 AM   #7471
Xory
 
Tauren Druid
 
Anub'arak (EU)
Shred critchance

Hi dudes,

for a couple of weeks i´m very confused cause of my shred critchance
raidbuffed without trinket proccs i have 60% crit.
The Problem i cant figgure out, Shred always have crited 50-55% in a bossfight.
Other Styles/Meleehits are fine.

any help for me ?

greeds, xory

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Old 08/28/09, 10:57 AM   #7472
Jugglernaut
Glass Joe
 
Troll Hunter
 
Stormreaver (EU)
There is no magic trick to hunter dps. Just time your cooldowns and use your shots as soon as they line up.

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Old 08/28/09, 11:12 AM   #7473
Drakonikamage
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Human Mage
 
Zenedar (EU)
Originally Posted by thatguyb25 View Post
I'm fairly well geared and barely braking 3k dps on Raid bosses in Uld and ToC 25. Fairly certain that My spell rotation is where I'm falling short. Any suggestions on a better rotation?
Hmmm well i loked over ur gear and its about the same as mine. ur slightly lower on sp (with about 100sp) but u have 60 more haste. u are also 3% over the hitcap considering u stated u have a priest in ur group (considering it shadowspecced.)
ur rotation is not faulty actually i do the same except firebalsting when i have to move. i can normally 3,7-4,5k dps a raidboss and on some ocasions i can reach 5,5k-6k depending on setup and fight. i do very well with a 361 hit rating(like missing one spell every boss or so, max 2-3 misses) but i do have draenei`s which u cant so 380-390 hit rating is what u kinda need. maybe trashing some hit for sp is a good way to start. not to mention dps is very fight related. u can have low dps in a fight with many ads and intrerupts (e.g. first boss in toc or The Harvester encounter in naxx); and higher dps in some fights with special buffs/debuffs(e.g. Lord Jaraxanus in toc). other than that i cannot find motives for low dps. maybe a speed potion or two and a flamecap would be nice if u still dont handle. i dont use them that much but who knows?

p.s. u forgot the +1% hit from Draenei that Ally`s can have (for the post directly above)

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Old 08/28/09, 11:15 AM   #7474
Janraea
Don Flamenco
 
Tauren Druid
 
Dunemaul
Originally Posted by Xory View Post
Hi dudes,

for a couple of weeks i´m very confused cause of my shred critchance
raidbuffed without trinket proccs i have 60% crit.
The Problem i cant figgure out, Shred always have crited 50-55% in a bossfight.
Other Styles/Meleehits are fine.

any help for me ?

greeds, xory
You lose crit chance against mobs of higher level. The reduction against a boss is in the range of 5%, so your observations match pretty well.

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Old 08/28/09, 11:32 AM   #7475
Cowhow
 
Tauren Druid
 
Magtheridon (EU)
What is better for feral cat, haste or crit rating?
I don't know wich one is better [Archon Glaive] or [Lupine Longstaff].

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Old 08/28/09, 11:52 AM   #7476
Drakonikamage
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Human Mage
 
Zenedar (EU)
hmmm i have been watching out for simcraft t9 output /w BiS items and it clearly states that arcane (57/3/18) is better dps than Fb-TTw(20/51/0) (confirmed here on some earlier post) and that the (57/21/0) arcane+imp scorch(omg) is tho not as good as fb-ttw it beats FFB(0/51/20). This seems highly unlikely as t9 boosts crit and that means FFb is boosted the most then Fb-Ttw also boosted quite a bit and Arcane recieving, well, let`s face it, kinda the omg u got me wrong present for Christmass kinda feeling. can anyone explain why this is or?

regarding the 4t8.5 vs 2t9 bonuses u should go for the t9 as fire if i remember ur spec corect because the bonuses are aproximatly the same value to dps, but the items u put on yourself are better.

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Old 08/28/09, 11:58 AM   #7477
Pike
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Tauren Druid
 
Uther
Originally Posted by Cowhow View Post
What is better for feral cat, haste or crit rating?
I don't know wich one is better [Archon Glaive] or [Lupine Longstaff].
It depends. Generally speaking we prefer crit, but depending on how much crit/arpen you already have you might get more out of haste. Once you reach a certain percentage of crit, the number of extra combo points you generate levels off somewhat. Also, if you have a fair bit of arpen, your white attacks are hitting fairly hard.

Best bet is to use some of the available tools like rawr, toskks, fbn to review your gear and see what's best.

Strong like bull, smart like tractor...

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Old 08/28/09, 12:21 PM   #7478
Thorgred
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Dwarf Paladin
 
Khaz'goroth
I am currently studying 1st year computer programming at Uni and we're learning GUI's in Java.
So i thought i'd do some extra-curricular activities and make an iLevel calcluator (that would be a lot better than my age-old one in Excel and look more like what i think theirs looks like.

Here's a link of what i've done so far:


(that item is the Chestguard of the Exhausted btw).
I'm getting there, still quite a few ways to make it crash (or the iLevel comes up as 'Infinity') but in a few days i'll be able to share it.

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Old 08/28/09, 12:21 PM   #7479
Drakonikamage
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Zenedar (EU)
Originally Posted by Romple View Post
Can you post a WWS or WOL or whatever your guild uses?
He just said they do not use such a thing

"Please forgive my ignorance but what is a wws/ wol?" if i remember it corectly

Originally Posted by aceling View Post
Last time I looked about a month ago the highest dps profession for a caster was Tailoring. How far ahead of the next profession is Tailoring now in 3.2?
i think this is already posted on some other mage thread, but there is not reason for me not explaining it here.

Tailoring is still upfront but not that farr-off from engineering or Jc. also best proffesions are Tailour+Engineering

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Old 08/28/09, 12:33 PM   #7480
Drakonikamage
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Zenedar (EU)
Originally Posted by Astrylian View Post
Rawr's full source code is always available on our website, for developers and power users to compile themselves.
We also make compiled releases for the other 99% of users, periodically. (v2.2.13 is the current version, we'll release v2.2.14 soonish)
Imo any self respecting elitist jerk/pro wow player should have some basic programing knowledge xD.
It`s not that hard guys just google up any guide and read its intro and u should have ur basiscs sorted out. Helps a lot when trying to understand how the game works

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Old 08/28/09, 1:05 PM   #7481
jpcesar
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Human Warrior
 
Burning Steppes (EU)
We are back in action!

My last Patchwerk attempt:


Last edited by jpcesar : 08/28/09 at 1:10 PM.

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Old 08/28/09, 1:45 PM   #7482
lynx0880
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Human Priest
 
Thunderlord
New no risk guarantee on our website.

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Old 08/28/09, 1:53 PM   #7483
tpchow
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Gnomeregan
Sixthy, do you use Flask of Mojo or Frost Wyrm??
Thanks!

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Old 08/28/09, 3:21 PM   #7484
testament0221
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Blood Elf Death Knight
 
Dethecus
Just respc'd frost, and I gotta say that I'm liking it. However, I'm having a hard time figuring out the GoDisease rotation. Could someone post a full sample rotation that uses pest to refresh diseases? I tried using the one on the OP, but I'm not sure how to actually start the rotation. Thanks.

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Old 08/28/09, 3:22 PM   #7485
aceling
Glass Joe
 
Human Mage
 
Medivh
Originally Posted by Ramsden View Post
Sancus went over the current state of professions for mages here:

http://elitistjerks.com/f75/t30655-w...8/#post1362558

Go there for the details. His conclusion:
Thanks guys, this helped me decide not to drop enchanting for tailoring

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