Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 50

Vurrin · 12/04/08, 2:44 PM

Do some quests in Borean tundra or Howling Fjord. the greens you get from those quests should put around 900 spellpower

Ambits · 12/04/08, 4:29 PM

Ah ok yea sorry about that, but yea I'm trying to start losing some of the expertise but most of it is coming from my trollwoven set so I'm not getting rid of that yet heh.

Sinistersmog · 12/04/08, 7:32 PM

I just made this build, for raid dps; can someone critique it?
Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

Olla · 12/04/08, 10:54 PM

I thought something was up. he honestly didn't seem that hard, Is his loot really worth the trouble, honestly The set bonus for T7 don't seem mind shatteringly good, but I could be missing something

TimeConsumer · 12/04/08, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by Thril

I'm currently raiding as 16/51/4 and im easily holding my own, however, i keep seeing all these posts with people having aboslutely no mana problems. Am i to understand this as they're not going into viper at all or just are in viper what they'd deem an acceptable amount of time?
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My pets doing 1k dps here and is ~25% of my dps where as steady is 28%, and so my initial thought were this was a bad idea however rng has robbed me of ~10% crit on this fight so i thought i'd share my problem. If it helps at all my pet had 850 average dps across bosses.

Looks like I'm in a similar situation. I'm the same spec and keep reading about how hunters have no mana problems. Would love an answer to bolded question.

TimeConsumer · 12/05/08, 2:13 AM

Picked up [Grim Toll] tonight in Naxx25 from Gothik, it put me up to 9.03% total hit with 0/3 Focused Aim. Was a nice surprise, and now I'm glad I don't have to worry about it. I wish the proc on it was something like Haste rather than Armor Pen, but hey, the hit on it is godly.

lavandyke · 12/05/08, 7:10 AM

Originally Posted by Hidden

@Rawr and DPS Compendium Stat Values:
The DPS Compendium stat values are a very rough estimate and not anywhere near exact for two reasons:
a) The stat values always depend on your gear and your buffs.
b) The stat values in that thread are taken from an early spreadsheet version that still had quite a few errors, one of them reducing the value of crit rating and crit in general by a rather large amount.

In general I'd really like the DPS compendium to be updated, leaving it in the forum with so much wrong, outdated or questionable information really doesn't help with keeping the other threads clean.

100% /sign !!

Robusto · 12/05/08, 7:23 AM

Thanks for the answere,

Here is a prototyp of my wish list until the next pve content i hope it's fine to discuss about it on this post.

Take a look and tell me what you think.

Main Hand: [Torch of Holy Fire]

Off hand: [Surplus Limb]

Trinket 1: [Dying Curse]

Trinket 2: [Illustration of the Dragon Soul]

Ring 1: [Signet of Manifested Pain]

Ring 2: [Signet of the Malevolent]

Head: t7 (25)

Shoulders: t7 (25)

Chest: t7 (25)

Glove: t7 (25)

Back: [Pennant Cloak]

Neck: [Wyrmrest Necklace of Power]

Pant: [Leggings of Atrophy]

Waist: [Leash of Heedless Magic]

Wrist: [Unsullied Cuffs]

Idol: [Idol of the Shooting Star]

Feet: [Footsteps of Malygos]

(Gems are all +19 add spell excepte 2 blue to be able to use the meta that add 3% dommage to your crits)

anormal13 · 12/05/08, 2:46 PM

Hi everyone,

I'm wondering what kind of enchant i'll choose for my shaman lvl 80 !

Mangoose ? Executionner ? Berseker ? Accuracy?

Did anyone already make some evaluation on waepon enchants?

Thanks for your help,

ithecho84 · 12/05/08, 2:54 PM

Originally Posted by uliko

http://elitistjerks.com/990017-post110.html

Just replace the 1.3 with however much your GotEM reduces the GCD, for example with 3/5 it would be 1.18 instead. Also thanks for pointing this out, means I can go drop some points from GotEM myself

Thanks!

pctd · 12/05/08, 4:42 PM

My UI. Pre WOTLK, although nothing has changed really, expect for the action buttons.

Alex234 · 12/05/08, 8:05 PM

flimflam
Macloud

Thx a lot for answering !

bigdave · 12/06/08, 2:25 AM

Mirror/Grim Toll has been giving me alot more dps than mirror/whetstone. My guild will be running WWS soon so I will have actual data to see if it's just RNG or valid.

here is my current setup The World of Warcraft Armory

Crox · 12/06/08, 6:24 AM

Hi Hunters, I try to read and understand as much as possible about BM raiding and I´am concerned about my DPS in comparison to another hunter in my guild. His equip is not as good as my equip is, but he is close to my DPS in 25 raids.

At first look at my char pls

I know there are a few things to tune up my gear, as gems and enchantements but I often get new gear so I sometimes take the cheaper things.

In my spec I will change the 2 points from rapid killing and one point from focused aim to improved stings I think! or not?

And here is a WWS from Thursday

I use a macro which casts steady shot and clicks rabid, when fights start I activate hunters mark and put serpent sting on boss, then activate BW, go for throat, trinket and RF -> then readiness and after the sting runs out I refresh it and then again activate BW and RF. Additionaly I´am always in AotD.

I have a cat as pet with this build

The other hunter uses the scorpid.

After reading all that ( I hope its not to worse to read ), what do you expect could be my DPS and what should I change with my hunter?

And another question: is there a armor penetration cap or how much armor penetration should a hunter have?

Thank you all so much, these are the best threads!

Nekondas · 12/06/08, 11:08 AM

I would love to see how much dps SV spec can produce in 25 man raid.
I checked alot of WWS reports, but all hunters are either BM or MM.
Any1 played SV in 25 man enviroment and share some results ?

lassenc · 12/06/08, 11:14 AM

I specced disc yesterday, and went for a lot of crit gear.

The World of Warcraft Armory

But I am don't know if I neglected other stats on the way, any suggestions?

Qanre · 12/06/08, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by Grai

This is answered in many places in the mage forums. Please make sure you use the search function before posting questions that have been answered many times.

Bomb is better. Just because you saw some other numbers on a fight (Thaddius) that favors Icy Veins does not make it better in every situation. You should be using Bomb on bosses and trash alike.

Thanks, not sure how I missed it (I'm not even in the right thread either

), I'll have to work through the mana issues.

kr1305 · 12/06/08, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by Crox

Hi Hunters, I try to read and understand as much as possible about BM raiding and I´am concerned about my DPS in comparison to another hunter in my guild. His equip is not as good as my equip is, but he is close to my DPS in 25 raids.

At first look at my char pls

I know there are a few things to tune up my gear, as gems and enchantements but I often get new gear so I sometimes take the cheaper things.

In my spec I will change the 2 points from rapid killing and one point from focused aim to improved stings I think! or not?

And here is a WWS from Thursday

I use a macro which casts steady shot and clicks rabid, when fights start I activate hunters mark and put serpent sting on boss, then activate BW, go for throat, trinket and RF -> then readiness and after the sting runs out I refresh it and then again activate BW and RF. Additionaly I´am always in AotD.

I have a cat as pet with this build

The other hunter uses the scorpid.

After reading all that ( I hope its not to worse to read ), what do you expect could be my DPS and what should I change with my hunter?

And another question: is there a armor penetration cap or how much armor penetration should a hunter have?

Thank you all so much, these are the best threads!

I think your axe may be a problem.

Denali · 12/06/08, 1:49 PM

ok mates now i'm a bit confused.

i have this weap in my inventory:

1.[Demise]
2.[Death's Bite]
3.[Colossal Skull-Clad Cleaver]
4.[Titansteel Destroyer]

My stats unbuffed in zerk stance and equipping 1 and 4:

3516 ap
486 hit rating
28.52% crit

i aim to rise a lot crit and lower hit rating...btw my question is:

what's the best couple? i'm cofudes a lot about the different weapon time linked to mh oh slot. i have always known that the lower weapon go in mh...the faster one in oh....it's the in this case?

regards

Crox · 12/06/08, 2:06 PM

sorry that axe was for pushing skill^^
I have the 2h sword from the knights of the ebon blade...

Markemp · 12/06/08, 8:01 PM

Originally Posted by Nekondas

Any1 played SV in 25 man enviroment and share some results ?

Interestingly enough, SV seems to be on par with rogues. Whether this means BM/MM needs to be nerfed or SV/rogues need to be buffed remains to be seen.

I'd prefer buffs.

Korvek · 12/06/08, 8:37 PM

I did last about 4300 dps on patchwerk as survival last time but my talents and rotation was suboptimal as it was my first time playing survival. I'll try to get some numbers up this coming tuesday when we do naxx25 again.

Weyard · 12/06/08, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by Iru

It very much depends on how long you expect fights to be. So far, the real-life testing puts 50/21/0 ahead because fights don't last long enough for Invigoration etc to pay off relative to the DPS lose of AotV.

That said, it's still fairly gear depended and the only correct answer is model both in the spreadsheet - or go try them.

Anymore input?

Havik0 · 12/07/08, 7:47 AM

@Diamond: much thanks, suppose I could have looked of EJ of all places :P

milkabull · 12/07/08, 9:48 AM

Is there a buff that can be provided by another raid member that would overwrite call of the wild?

Since it apparently stacks, would it be benificial to bring more hunters to a raid over another class because of this buff?

Is there somewhere I can see what buffs will overwrite other buffs?