Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 527

poptya · 09/11/09, 12:51 AM

Hey guys, got a question since I dont have excel to check the spreadsheet myself. I recently got my T8.5 legs out of VOA, which gives me Legs, Chest, Helm. My shoulders are [Duskstalker Shoulderpads], and currently I'm using 7.5 legs and gloves. My question is, should I stick with the 2 piece bonus of the 7.5? Or lose that and put on the 8.5 legs?

Second question is about weapons. I'm combat sword specced right now, Using [Silent Crusader] and [Widow's Fury], but I just got [Dirk of the Night Watch] out of TOC. Would keeping the swords be better? Or using the dagger as my new offhand and have a hybrid Swords/CQC spec? If so, is there a recomended number of points to put into each of the two. Thanks in advance

Valakahh · 09/11/09, 1:30 AM

Guys, sorry if im asking this but i dont want to read every page in this thread but..

I want to know which spec is the best for 10man raids..

Thanks.

Vala

zelman · 09/11/09, 1:31 AM

firestone for deep destro. spellstone for deep affliction, 0/41/30, 0/40/31, and meta.

Repaxan · 09/11/09, 1:31 AM

Originally Posted by MizarAlcor

Is it that MM spec with Arcane only viable on paper but not on real situation?
Thank you.

Post your spec. Do you have 3/3 Imp Arcane Shot?

Naforce · 09/11/09, 2:13 AM

Originally Posted by Scaron

Yes. The 368 horde hit cap assumes that there is a Spriest or Boomkin in the raid. It also assumes that you are grouped with a Draenei, and that you have not taken the supression talent in the affliction tree.

It does not assume that you are grouped with a Draenei. Horde doesn't have that race. Grouped with a Draenei , also knows as Alliance hit cap, is 342.

Sparrta · 09/11/09, 2:16 AM

Lately I have noticed that I am becoming more rage starved and very spikey rage generation. Take a look at my armory to the left and any1 see anything that could be causing this. I use heroic strike usually when I'm above 50 rage so that is not my problem. Thanks.

MizarAlcor · 09/11/09, 2:37 AM

Originally Posted by Repaxan

Post your spec. Do you have 3/3 Imp Arcane Shot?

Yes, due to not having continuously available blood DK or enhance shaman, I opted to take a point in TSA. After toying around with spreadsheet, I found out that best DPS resulted (even though very marginally) from taking 3/3 imp. Arcane and 2/3 imp. SS . Even if I do otherwise (3/3 imp. SS and 2/3 imp. Arcane), the sheet still showed an increase over survival spec.

Bersi · 09/11/09, 4:11 AM

I don't see a specific reason why your rage seems to be spikey since you have good values (arp, exp). And having to much hit is bad for the damage but at least ensures a constant flow of rage. Btw. is there a reason besides the slightly slower speed why you put the superior weapon in the offhand?

thescottmorton · 09/11/09, 5:30 AM

What Epic gem Xmute makes the most money? im assuming red but the blue quality ones are fairly expensive also.

Malthes · 09/11/09, 7:40 AM

Originally Posted by thescottmorton

What Epic gem Xmute makes the most money? im assuming red but the blue quality ones are fairly expensive also.

This was covered earlier in the thread, but orange is probably the most profitable Xmute, since its materials are cheapest (about 10g). YMMV, of course. On my server, Orange is also one of the least profitable cuts (along with Green), and so changes the equation for me.

pòu · 09/11/09, 7:44 AM

hai guise, i'm new to this forum but not @ dps'ing with rogue

i've always been using the mutilate spec but my dps cycle is without rupture. I think you should add that cycle to the spreadsheet, also becouse the arp nerf is gonna put combat pretty much at the same level of muti imo.

anyways, what are your ideas for the BiS for muti spec?
gratz, pòu

Roly · 09/11/09, 8:44 AM

At what gear (tier+weapon) should we change from blood dps to unholy?

Istarian · 09/11/09, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by pòu

hai guise, i'm new to this forum but not @ dps'ing with rogue

i've always been using the mutilate spec but my dps cycle is without rupture. I think you should add that cycle to the spreadsheet, also becouse the arp nerf is gonna put combat pretty much at the same level of muti imo.

anyways, what are your ideas for the BiS for muti spec?
gratz, pòu

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samot · 09/11/09, 11:06 AM

deleted (sry. for doublepost)

Masterdragon · 09/11/09, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by MizarAlcor

Hello fellow forum posters,

Since the advent of dual-spec system, I have been longing to try MM spec. However, it has been said many times that MM shouldn't be used until one of the Ar-pen trinkets is obtained and Ar-pen soft cap is reached. However, when plugging in my current specs into the newest spreadsheet (in which LnL proc is already set to 20%), MM spec (Agility-based, keeping Arcane Shot in rotation) is showing me almost 400 dps increase (raid-buffed) compared to my regular Surv spec.

However, when trying out the rotation in the dummy, I can't seem to surpass my Surv dps record. Please review my rotations below :
--Priority is : Initial Serpent >KS>CS>Arcane>Aimed>Steady .
--During Improved SS proc, I will wait as long as possible till either CS or Aimed is off CD, doing Steady shots in between while ignoring Arcane even though it is off-CD.
--When Readiness is off-CD, I will Rapid fire - Kill Command - CS - Aimed - wait till all KC charges are used - Readiness and repeat.

Is it that MM spec with Arcane only viable on paper but not on real situation?
Thank you.

Edit : changed "Arcane-less" to with-Arcane

From observences on my end, solo dummy dps was usually higher as my SV spec over my normal ArP MM spec. It mostly due to SV having a little less reliance on raid buffs then MM. Also to note, if the dummy is at <20% life, SV pulls farther ahead due to the quicker Kill Shots. Dummy DPS is good for comparing DPS between gear swaps but not for comparing Spec swaps because one spec is slightly better then another spec, unbuffed. My tests have been the same way even though I've always done more DPS as MM over my SV offspec.