umm question would'nt it be more important for a shamn to use the haste on the gloves (i dont know what its called im not and eng.) instead of the pyro rocket? ... i only ask because im rerolling a shamman and im picking up eng as my main profession

Sooo, that still leaves the answer.. what should your Hit be without any other considerations? What should your Haste, crit, SPI, SP be? What are we shooting for?

When I think of the word "unbuffed" I envision standing in the middle of Dalaran looking at my stats, not in a raid with "xx" or "yy" character.

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"Honor Among Thieves: A 1-second cooldown is now enforced on how often a rogue can gain combo points from his party via this talent."

So what this mean for us?

-- Delete please, was an idiot and wrong thread. ---

If you'll read the last page or two, that's what most of the posts are concerning. I'm not sure any testing has been done to clarify what exactly the wording of the change means, or if there has then I haven't noticed anyone post on it. If, as can be assumed, it means 1cp/sec from HaT period (instead of 1cp/sec for each player in your group) then it will nerf this spec into insensibility. Which will make me sad, since I have been using it the past few weeks and rather enjoy it.

I stand corrected re: Draenei. Brain fart.

Although you can find this elsewhere, here's what you want your stats to look like if you're a horde warlock (and you plan on grouping with an Spriest or Boomkin):

Hit: 368 (or 442ish without Spriest or Boomkin).
SP: as high as possible
Haste: as high as possible (haste capping is possible in certain buffed situations (heroism/bloodlust/trinket proc/PI, etc.) but I honestly don't worry too much about it).
Crit: as high as possible
Spirit: as high as possible

Frankly, any stat that helps you even in the slightest should be as high as possible. The question is what do you give up on when you have the choice between two helpful stats...that is which stats are MOST helpful. For that you can check the Simcraft thread as stat weight varies slightly according to your spec.

Hit should be capped at 17%.

As to other stats, there are no absolute values to shoot for. SP>Haste>Spi>Crit for destro is a good rule of thumb to follow while making gear choices, if you don't want to mess with simcraft to find the optimal setup for your character and gear.

Can you guys help me out a bit? I used to play this game with a passion and keep up to date with the threads on here, but I've got a lot less time for it. My DPS has suffered a lot and I'm starting to catch some comments from guild members. Up until maybe 6 months ago, I had always been one of the highest dps'ers in the guild, so I really don't get what has changed.

Anyway, I'm not really sure what I'm doing wrong. As far as I can tell from recount, I'm doing the same things another lock in the guild is doing, but he comes out 1700 dps ahead of me. I use the standard rotation. Immo-Conflag-CB-Incin-etc.

Here's my armory

The World of Warcraft Armory

edit: Only parse we have is from week one of Alliance Champions, and that's all that's in it. It's not worth much. I was messing with the training dummy for a bit today and logged one of those. I found part of my problem. I forgot about pre-casting.

Wow Web Stats Just me on the training dummy

I'm at 288 hit rating, which is 10.98%. +3% from suppression and +3% from a shadowpriest = .02% under cap, correct?

Hrm. Did I miss a link, or is there no option for those of us that don't have Excel to use the spreadsheet?

I have looked for good information on this subject, but I have yet to find any solid info. My guild has been stuck on Mimiron hard mode for about 2 weeks now and the warlocks consistently do low dps. I am wondering what most people use on this particular fight.


Armory:The World of Warcraft Armory

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P.S. If this is the wrong place for this please let me know. I am a long time reader first time poster.

There hasn't been a option for many months.It takes ALOT of work to do this spreadsheet,you can't expect him to do it in multiple formats.