Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 53

Lumb · 10/14/08, 4:57 PM

Hi, can anyone confirm that a lot of the recent changes have not actually been implemented into the patch? For example, how much does the dual wield talent increase hit by at the moment, 3% or 6%?

lilhoof · 10/14/08, 5:12 PM

Ok thank you...I will hcange that up. BTW the servers are up now.

Lumb · 10/14/08, 5:30 PM

Sorry if i'm being a bit dense here, but all this talk about how much hit rating we will need to stack is confusing me (part of it might be from the official WoW forums).

You need 17% spellhit to cap, correct?

-6% from talents leaves 11% spellhit
134 hit rating is 8.5%, so that leaves 2.5% spellhit
3% spellhit comes from a Shadow priest or a Moonkin, so if i'm right that means I don't really need to be gemming, enchanting or food buffing for hit rating AT ALL, unless my EP for it is higher than AP or AGI, which it wont be.

lilhoof · 10/14/08, 5:47 PM

Originally Posted by constantius

There's no point in taking IDS for 25-man raiding, so a spec like:
Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

Thanks for that spec. I have passed it along to her and she seems thrilled. She is implementing it as we speak.

RogueLeaderX · 10/14/08, 6:11 PM

Originally Posted by Mr00000

Its been mentioned numerous times throughout this topic that pets are now getting their master's hit rating. Now, most of us will be putting those points into an improved talent that used to be a noob-check (Spirit Bond).

Has anyone tested to see if hunter pets are getting hit from Focused Aim? Based on the wording (increases your chance to hit) I'd say no, but Blizzard's wording isn't always 100% accurate.

If that's the case wouldn't 1/2 Animal Handler be worthwhile to offset hit gained from Focused Aim?

Granted that's a specialized situation (a hunter needs a talent to gain hit cap and wants his pet to be at or near hit cap as well.)

RogueLeaderX · 10/14/08, 6:17 PM

My apologies, redundant question, please delete.

Undernet01 · 10/14/08, 6:20 PM

So what should I put my points into? I'm not sure where to put to points for maximum DPS.. Everything is so... Different...

Lord Xar · 10/14/08, 8:18 PM

I do admit, I haven't downloaded the latest spreadsheet, but there was alot of talk a few pages ago in regards to close quarter combat (fist/dagger) potentially being greater than sword spec. Has that born itself out and does combat fists still still sit behind combat swords by a 1% ??

Just curious are people experience with any fist hybrid or pure fist as it competes with sword spec, in regard to combat specs.

Anobix · 10/14/08, 9:28 PM

Originally Posted by Docjowles

My plan is to initially run molten armor, with glyph of mana gem and improved scorch. If it turns out that I don't have the mana, I'll switch from mana gem to glyphed mage armor. With increased DPS and a flat 30% raid mob HP nerf, I can't imagine having major mana problems, hence my preference for molten armor to start.

I think this is a factor that is going to vary significantly from raid to raid, and I'd recommend just trying it for yourself.

I'm thinking the same thing.

QXX · 10/14/08, 10:01 PM

I complete agree we should have an expose armor buff worth while.I have also thought about the idea of a group agro drop kinda of like a GROUP vanish so that all dps in the group can zero out there agro.

spanko · 10/15/08, 2:04 AM

Armor Pen is a really terrible stat now, not only because of us doing more spell damage, but its applied after all raid debuffs that reduce armor as a percentage as well.

nemowish · 10/15/08, 4:32 AM

After updating my game with the last patch. final patch notes says

- Improved Poisons (Assassination) now increases chance to apply
poisons by 5/10/15/20/25%.

4 hours till servers come back online, i'll report back.

Kyuki · 10/15/08, 6:03 AM

Forget about the current patchnotes...

Grimmli · 10/15/08, 8:41 AM

Originally Posted by landsoul

If you read the directions you would not have gotten the bug. You must force another set of iterations after your final choice then you would have gotten accurate numbers. Open Office is limited to 1000 per change.

that's exactly what I did and I still get the bug but thanks for reporting me

raabnox · 10/15/08, 9:35 AM

Based on what I have read, this is what I'm planning for my 3.02 build.
The two glyphs I've picked up are the improved Windfury and Improved Lightning Bolt.

I'm wondering in terms of utiility wheither I should go with concussion or convection for the addional cost reduction of LB?

Elemental (8 points)

5/5 Concussion
3/3 Elemental Devastation

Enhancement (53 points)

3/3 Enhancing Totems
4/5 Ancestral Knowledge
5/5 Thundering Strikes
3/3 Elemental Weapons
1/1 Shamanistic Focus
5/5 Flurry
2/2 Improved Windfury Totem
1/1 Spirit Weapons
3/3 Mental Dexterity
5/5 Unleashed Rage
3/3 Weapon Mastery
3/3 Dual Wield Specialization
1/1 Dual Wield
1/1 Stormstrike
3/3 Mental Quickness
1/1 Lava Lash
2/2 Improved Stormstrike
1/1 Shamanistic Rage
5/5 Maelstrom Weapon
1/1 Feral Spirit

Restoration (0 points)