Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 540

bm289 · 09/16/09, 10:11 AM

-removed because i am a total idiot

Bonecaller · 09/16/09, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by bm289

an update or clarification from patch notes on MMO-CHAMPION.com

So, if I read this correctly, it does indeed affect the base damage of heart strike on the PRIMARY target AND the SECONDARY target as well.

So what do you want to tell us?

HS does half damage on the second target, that's already clear. On PTR, it's already working that way.

Glyph of BS still stays no option - because it doesn't effect HS at all (and BS damage is a lot lower than 20%, even considering only singletarget).

bm289 · 09/16/09, 10:31 AM

-removed because i am an idiot

Afabar · 09/16/09, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by bm289

Did you even read the tooltip? it does 50% damage on the primary target and 25% on the secondary. With this in mind, would using blood strike as a single target strike be better than using heart strike on a single target since HS will now be dealing 50% weapon dmg instead of 100% weapon dmg.

On live, Heart Strike already do 50% weapon damage Heart Strike
Like Blood strike do 40% weapon damage or Obliterate 80%.

bm289 · 09/16/09, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by Afabar

On live, Heart Strike already do 50% weapon damage Heart Strike
Like Blood strike do 40% weapon damage or Obliterate 80%.

Totally right. My bad. total idiot = me. Proceed!

Bladesinger · 09/16/09, 11:11 AM

With the new changes to envenom and were Blizz is obviously steering us towards muti again, will mutilate go ahead of the pack again?
Also is there absolutly no way in beating 4 t8 with 2 t9 and ToC gear? I know the t8 set bonus = win but am hoping to put on my 9's asap.

orion121 · 09/16/09, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by sillymofo420

can anyone tell me the elem haste cap before diminishing returns

1270 is the GCD cap, at which point the return slows until you hit 2540 (1s LB's) at which point there is virtually no return on haste.

EDIT: Assuming WoA and Moonkin/Ret

dallalr · 09/16/09, 12:42 PM

Can someone list/calculate the mean set bonus values (as DPS) for the T8 and T9 pieces for standard destro build.

I currently have both 2pc t8 (8.5head 8.0 shoulder) and 2pc T9( trophy legs and hand). I am trying to determine the benefit/loss of purchasing the vendor 245 shoulders (Pauldrons of revered mortality or even the 232 shoulders) versus waiting for more trophies (I am swimming in emblems right now and am way negative in DKP).

Thanks

Cicatric Black Dragonflight

ManOfSorrow · 09/16/09, 12:46 PM

ok so i just started DW, and i was thinking if I should max out my hit at 27% i Believe it is. Also I just got the badges to buy my fourth piece tir9, should i buy it for the 4 piece set bonus, or buy the sigil that gives 200str? I really feel that this spec can out dps blood/unholy. Just working on my spec to max its dps.

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evoslayer · 09/16/09, 12:52 PM

Simple question,

What would be the absolute optimal spec for doing damage to say, five targets, if Prey on the Weak were useless because you were constantly at low HP, and you had to take throwing spec.

In this hypothetical situation, would 23/45/1 be the way to go? taking improved poisons and using double instant (or instant deadly?) or would the loss of killing spree cost too much to drop the 5 points in PotW?

Also what is the optimal gearing to maximize damage from fan of knives?

Bringing this situation up for the people who know how to do the math.

Redknights · 09/16/09, 1:59 PM

Originally Posted by ManOfSorrow

ok so i just started DW, and i was thinking if I should max out my hit at 27% i Believe it is. Also I just got the badges to buy my fourth piece tir9, should i buy it for the 4 piece set bonus, or buy the sigil that gives 200str? I really feel that this spec can out dps blood/unholy. Just working on my spec to max its dps.

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Please read the very first page of this Thread, learn and understand it all before posting questions.

"White hits have a hit cap of 27%. The talent Nerves of cold steel reduces this by 3%. At this point, no white hits (or any attack for that matter) will miss. This cap is not reasonable to reach for any DK, and should not be attempted. However, keep in mind that gaining hit over the spell hit cap still has a dps value as it will allow more white damage, more blood caked blade procs, and more Killing machine procs." - First page

nonmagical · 09/16/09, 2:20 PM

Am I the only one who is finding it more beneficial to spec into Vile Poisons over 3 of the 5 points in Relentless Strikes (18/51/2). I was running 15/51/5 for a while until my guildies recommended trying the Vile Poisons setup. On spreadsheet single target DPS I am losing only ~11 DPS and using my Rupture setup I am actually gaining ~2 DPS with 18/51/2.

Not to mention the added benefit you get with FoK.

RainNataku · 09/16/09, 2:29 PM

I still consider myself new to the world of locks but they are my favorite class by far. But as a Deep Destro i want to know how exactly i should gem? Im not amazing with the numbers aspect in this.

The World of Warcraft Armory

Thats the link to my wow armory. Can anyone give me a hand, I'm learning how things work and the rotation is no problem things like that i got down. Gear i understand its not that hard to get... but the geming kinda gets to me

RainNataku · 09/16/09, 2:31 PM

I still consider myself new to the world of locks but they are my favorite class by far. But as a Deep Destro i want to know how exactly i should gem? Im not amazing with the numbers aspect in this.

The World of Warcraft Armory

Thats the link to my wow armory. Can anyone give me a hand, I'm learning how things work and the rotation is no problem things like that i got down. Gear i understand its not that hard to get... but the geming kinda gets to me

Professor Hurt · 09/16/09, 2:50 PM

Originally Posted by nonmagical

Am I the only one who is finding it more beneficial to spec into Vile Poisons over 3 of the 5 points in Relentless Strikes (18/51/2). I was running 15/51/5 for a while until my guildies recommended trying the Vile Poisons setup. On spreadsheet single target DPS I am losing only ~11 DPS and using my Rupture setup I am actually gaining ~2 DPS with 18/51/2.

Not to mention the added benefit you get with FoK.

No you aren't. It's one of the recommended builds in the intro post to this thread. Mileage will of course vary depending on gear so everyone relies on the spreadsheets for guidance.