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Old 09/21/09, 6:09 PM   #8251
lotuz90
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Shaman
 
Balnazzar (EU)
Ah ok, bah, dont got a excel program at the moment. Couldnt find any while googling either too be honest :o
And math is really not my strong side at all, i cant stand math, so i try to stay away from it, but i kinda need to learn the spreadsheets to really optimize myself so :<

Rawr isnt trustworthy enough?

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Old 09/22/09, 2:04 AM   #8252
Flokke
Glass Joe
 
Orc Death Knight
 
Draenor
Originally Posted by eyzi View Post
You will not gem for expertise, since 1 point strength equals 1.75-2.25 points of expertise rating.
Nevertheless, expertise feels like a good investment on items.
A missed plague strike will cost you damage because you are practically GCD capped.
That's what i assumed i guess i'll just have to /pray for the Greaves of the Saronite Citadel tomorrow. Thanks for the reply.

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Old 09/22/09, 3:26 AM   #8253
origumo
Banned
 
Undead Priest
 
Boulderfist
My former post was removed and when i had sent it i was wanting to remove it myself. I've came to the conclusion from sovereign councils of my roomates that the gear and how you gem it is pennies on the dollar compared to the intel and practice of bosses. At times you feel depressed at the way you perform and start pointing fingers to ideals and parties not associated to the actual cause. YOURSELF!
I'm pushing 7k on normal bosses that don't buff raid on timers or have increased damage taken debuff timers. The other night my dps fell hard and instead of looking at the IRL factors that include: over exertion at work, mental awareness, sub conscience problems, Bio conflicts(like low activity or impairment of transductors that the senses work on); I changed my spec 3 times and gear thinking maybe i gemmed too much ARpen (634 + mjol) or maybe i have too much hit(407+ 4 points in precision) or expertise(24).
Then I remembered what got me there in the first place... stealing gear ideas and talent tree specs from higher ups! Jk, that doesn't work when your progressive and chances are you are the Higher Power. Sometimes psychological factors play a greater part then numbers. I can't apply the raw numbers that the game plays on, but i can offer psychological solutions like not getting hung up on something. Nine times out a ten you just need to put it down, walk away and sleep on it.
I have my own unique spec and the challenge of mixing gear to the highest yield. Most likely the main factor why i still play. I gamed a SP for 3 years and just started gaming Rogue progessively had some common problems at first like staying max range in the hit box, or knowing what boss fights i can take short cuts on to max my dps. I look at the spreadsheets but can't interact with them yet because windows won't allow me to unless i pay them money which is hard to come by when your a student.

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Old 09/22/09, 8:17 AM   #8254
robertsmb
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Garona
Has anyone given any thought to the Tankard O' Terror that is dropping from Coren Direbrew? I know its not anywhere near BiS gear, but some of us can't do hard modes with our guilds.

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Old 09/22/09, 10:08 AM   #8255
LetsRock
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Night Elf Rogue
 
Eonar
I apologize if this has been answered already but with the ArP nerf are rogues in t8.5 /up going to go back to agility/set bonus gemming for max dps? When I read "going back to BC gemming" thats what I am thinking it means.

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Old 09/22/09, 10:22 AM   #8256
LetsRock
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Night Elf Rogue
 
Eonar
3.2.2

Is there a simple value adjustment i can make to our current spreed sheet to reflect the new Arp nerf ?

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Old 09/22/09, 10:59 AM   #8257
Vitalremains
 
Orc Shaman
 
Argent Dawn
question for Elemental shaman about casting spell


is there a better DPS output between spaming cast or timing cast with Quartz/Globalcooldown ?



I remember when Quartz was making a huge difference compare to just spamming button, but last nigth out of boredom I just spam my spell key and have the feeling i migth have do more dps but that also migth only the beer

Will test it when server are up again but anyone have an output on this?



thank in advance,


Vitalremains,

Orc shaman of the 80th FROSTSHOCK!!!!

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Old 09/22/09, 11:05 AM   #8258
Iwa Washi
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Lightninghoof
3.2.2 is live, Armor Pen nerf, blah, blah, blah. Time to base this on the updated spread sheet.

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Old 09/22/09, 11:06 AM   #8259
phuq
 
Undead Warlock
 
Magtheridon (EU)
Has anyone got some math on what mutilate spec you should run with from 3.2.2?

Currently running 51/13/7 with 3 points in Turn the Tables.
Will it be better to put those 3 points in master poisoner, or take 3 points from CQC and put em into TTT?
Considdering TTT basicly equals 6% crit on mutilate only while CQC gives 3% crit on all attacks including finishing moves (also gives more energy regen via focused attacks)

Any thoughts?

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Old 09/22/09, 11:07 AM   #8260
illsk8420
 
Draenei Mage
 
Rexxar
Arcane rotation

I have some questions regarding 57/3/11 rotation, first off i have been 80 for 8 months or so i leveled frost shortly after specced arcane and i dont know if i am rotating my spells correctly, i took the points out of arcane barrage for whatever reason and i think im gonna put them back in there so i would like someone to please tell me the proper rotation using the cookie cutter 57/3/11 build. i am around a 2500 gear score atm and im currently doing 10/25 ulduar and reg 10 man toc im still over my hit cap and gemmed mainly for sp and haste im really trying to shed alot of hit but it seems that the gear that is giving me more sp is also maintaining the lvl of hit so i guess im stuck being over my hit cap atm, i am able to crank out about 5500 dps with the build i have and i know i could get that even higher with the proper rotation using the 57/3/11 build so if anyone can give me a little advice i would appreciate it greatly

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Old 09/22/09, 11:42 AM   #8261
Raiid
Glass Joe
 
Undead Rogue
 
Bonechewer
The best bet is to download the latest mutilate spreadsheet, I believe Aldriana just posted an update today, or possibly late last night.

http://elitistjerks.com/f78/t39136-c...4/#post1397179

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Old 09/22/09, 12:19 PM   #8262
Orixa
Glass Joe
 
Human Mage
 
Quel'Thalas (EU)
Thanks for the concise explanation Rugz, I wasn't aware those 2 buffs stacked multiplicatively. Glad to see there will be a little more thought needed regarding socket bonuses once geared in 2xT9.

Last edited by Orixa : 09/22/09 at 12:28 PM.

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Old 09/22/09, 12:34 PM   #8263
Blootie
 
Human Rogue
 
Elune
Oh wow nevermind

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Old 09/22/09, 1:04 PM   #8264
Rugz
Von Kaiser
 
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Gnome Mage
 
Azuremyst (EU)
Edit: Misinformation, delete please.

Last edited by Rugz : 09/22/09 at 1:23 PM.

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Old 09/22/09, 1:09 PM   #8265
hungrymoo
Glass Joe
 
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Sunstrider (EU)
Hello guys

Since soon will be the time of the "Arp rate Nerf" I was wondering if is more usefull regem bk for Str - str/crit gems, or keep my full arp configuration and try the hard cap again.

Here the link to my char:

The World of Warcraft Armory

Thank you all

(hope this answer will help someone else too ^^)

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