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03/11/10, 8:22 PM
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#14651
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Banned
Undead Warlock
Kazzak (EU)
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first of all sorry if some of the questions shouldnt be here.. but as new user i should post more posts in order to open new thread.. i just didnt want to say thank.. and bla bla something stupid.. so ill put everything in here now
QUESTIONS
1. Is it worth to stop the drain soul under 25%hp of the target if shadow trance procs?
2. is it worth to recast shadowbolt insteed using souldrain when the target is under25% ( to apply the SB buff) and than continue with drain soul again?
3. I heared about a addon ShadowGreenLight, this addon tells when some proc is up so you can re apply Corruption so corr. will benefit from that proc.. in ex. NMIC trinket, the thing that occupies me is .. SOMETIMES the addon says that i would benefit to recast corruption, bet when i try to do that it says "a more powerfull spell is already active" so the addon keeps flashing.. from red to strong green light. (more green means more benefit from the procs at that particular moment) i really dont know why and when is that happening.. i would like to know that.. also if there is a way to fix the addon if someone knows how? so it wouldnt flash when that "more powerfull spell is already acitve" (corruption).
however what i was doing without the addon was..prepot wild magic.. use NMIC (followed by normal opening) and than reaply Corruption at 35% again with pot and NMIC...
4. this may be stupid question, but i am not in the waters of analysing and testing so detailed stuff,, but however.. are there any procs that if is applied before corruption is applied (and that corr will be refreshed with sb or haunt) so corruption would benefit from that proc till the end of the fight cuz all the time is refreshed.. i think that was a bug with black magic proc.. but i am not even sure if this works too ;p.. any info is welcomed here (thinking about weapon swap with black magic maybe)
5. and should i stack the maridion's spayglass before corr is applied? or the corr is updated as the buff is stacked up to 10?? or i wait till muradyan spyglass stacks up to 10 and than cast corruption?
6. dose only corruption is the one spell that dosent get updated from procs? and as i knoe some procs are updating it?? what are dose procs that dosent update corr.. and what are the others that dose?
oh i almost forget..
7. ill assume that corr must be reapplied, but.. what about this.. i start with pre-pot wildmagic with normal opening, NMIC and than corruption.. sometimes that addon that i mentioned before says that lets say some proc is up. ie. 4th t10 bonus.. should i reapply corruption than??
thanks!!
Last edited by masky007 : 03/11/10 at 8:29 PM.
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03/11/10, 10:48 PM
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#14652
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Blood Elf Hunter
Auchindoun (EU)
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03/11/10, 11:54 PM
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#14653
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Von Kaiser
Orc Warlock
Boulderfist (EU)
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Originally Posted by masky007
first of all sorry if some of the questions shouldnt be here.. but as new user i should post more posts in order to open new thread.. i just didnt want to say thank.. and bla bla something stupid.. so ill put everything in here now
QUESTIONS
1. Is it worth to stop the drain soul under 25%hp of the target if shadow trance procs?
2. is it worth to recast shadowbolt insteed using souldrain when the target is under25% ( to apply the SB buff) and than continue with drain soul again?
3. I heared about a addon ShadowGreenLight, this addon tells when some proc is up so you can re apply Corruption so corr. will benefit from that proc.. in ex. NMIC trinket, the thing that occupies me is .. SOMETIMES the addon says that i would benefit to recast corruption, bet when i try to do that it says "a more powerfull spell is already active" so the addon keeps flashing.. from red to strong green light. (more green means more benefit from the procs at that particular moment) i really dont know why and when is that happening.. i would like to know that.. also if there is a way to fix the addon if someone knows how? so it wouldnt flash when that "more powerfull spell is already acitve" (corruption).
however what i was doing without the addon was..prepot wild magic.. use NMIC (followed by normal opening) and than reaply Corruption at 35% again with pot and NMIC...
4. this may be stupid question, but i am not in the waters of analysing and testing so detailed stuff,, but however.. are there any procs that if is applied before corruption is applied (and that corr will be refreshed with sb or haunt) so corruption would benefit from that proc till the end of the fight cuz all the time is refreshed.. i think that was a bug with black magic proc.. but i am not even sure if this works too ;p.. any info is welcomed here (thinking about weapon swap with black magic maybe)
5. and should i stack the maridion's spayglass before corr is applied? or the corr is updated as the buff is stacked up to 10?? or i wait till muradyan spyglass stacks up to 10 and than cast corruption?
6. dose only corruption is the one spell that dosent get updated from procs? and as i knoe some procs are updating it?? what are dose procs that dosent update corr.. and what are the others that dose?
oh i almost forget..
7. ill assume that corr must be reapplied, but.. what about this.. i start with pre-pot wildmagic with normal opening, NMIC and than corruption.. sometimes that addon that i mentioned before says that lets say some proc is up. ie. 4th t10 bonus.. should i reapply corruption than??
thanks!!
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But I agree with you that ShadowGreenLight addon needs to have some visual indication that if u recast correction at that particular moment you will be greeted with crude words "more powerful spell is already active". If this is incorporated in addon, you would be able to react in accordance to it (pop spell pot or cast soc to wipe existing one before casting new corruption).
Last edited by randa : 03/12/10 at 12:06 AM.
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03/12/10, 12:04 AM
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#14654
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Banned
Undead Warlock
Kazzak (EU)
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thanks for the link mate, useful.
However some questions aren't answered in there, and i have more confident on elite jerks than on mmo about dps calculations, soo i would like an answer here  .
And again.. THANKS .. i really found some useful info there
edit:
another question..
dose Earth and Moon and Ebon Plague rolls or updates? on mmochamp they say CoE updates (so no need to recast corr) but what about those two debuffs from moonkin/dk?
Last edited by masky007 : 03/12/10 at 6:36 AM.
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03/12/10, 12:06 AM
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#14655
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Glass Joe
Human Priest
Lightbringer
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how good is the Accubus for disc? or is somthing more like Brood eye kinda better due to crit SP?
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03/12/10, 12:10 AM
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#14656
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Glass Joe
Human Priest
Lightbringer
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Soft Cap is around 11% for disc (5% from shammy totem 3% from ret/boomkin, 6 from talents and 25 from PW:S buff) and 42% for Holy
GL with the holy one ^_^
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03/12/10, 12:33 AM
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#14657
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Banned
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increase my dps
Can anyone give me some hints or ideas on how to get my dps higher. i have good gear but i do low dps. do i need some new gems, gear? Like I said any help would be really helpful i really need some. thx
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03/12/10, 1:37 AM
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#14658
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Resilience and tanking.
I did my best to look up whether or not resilience allowed you to bridge gaps in defense in order to become crit immune in PVE. A lot of threads already state that you can in fact do so but I'm encountering a lot of resistance from my guild in regards to it. If someone could link me to an up to date post or a patch note that will explain it for me I'd appreciate the help.
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03/12/10, 2:33 AM
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#14659
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Banned
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I note that [Blazefury] is missing from the list of weapons. You may (or may not) wish to add it.
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03/12/10, 2:34 AM
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#14660
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Banned
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I have recently acquired the t10 2piece bonus, and was trying to put together a macro that would fire off Storm Strike followed by Shamanistic Rage, but at first it wouldn't fire off anything, and now only does the storm strike. I have the same for Lava Lash, just to make sure that if Shamanistic rage is off cool down and either are up they could trigger it. Here is an example of my macros:
/startattack
#showtooltip Stormstrike
/cast Stormstrike
/cast Shamanisitic Rage
By going through various forums and posts with regards to macro building, they state that spells that are not affected by the GCD can be tied together, but so far all the spells I have for my shammy are unable to be tied together, even though looking up each spell like Shamanistic rage, it isn't affected by GCD. If anyone with more indepth knowledge of macro building is available, I would appreciate some help with this as it should increase dps.
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03/12/10, 3:08 AM
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#14661
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Deeper Shade of Blue
Rouncer
Orc Shaman
No WoW Account
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03/12/10, 3:29 AM
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#14662
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Sabereth
Soft Cap is around 11% for disc (5% from shammy totem 3% from ret/boomkin, 6 from talents and 25 from PW:S buff) and 42% for Holy
GL with the holy one ^_^
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Did you even read the opening post?
just because 5+3+6+11+25 is 50 doesn't make the softcap 11%, because that's not how different types of haste stack.
Edit:
Likewise, the GCD cap for holy is "only" 38.6%. (1.50 / [1.03*1.05])
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03/12/10, 5:33 AM
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#14663
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Banned
Draenei Paladin
Norgannon
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where?
where on this site can i find basic stating goals for prot paladin without having to sift through the 100 page thread? im new to tanking and would like some direction on where to start. the table of contense looks nice but stops at FAQ and doesnt finish. please direct me. im not begging or asking for hand holding, im asking for an arrow. -thanks
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03/12/10, 6:39 AM
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#14664
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Glass Joe
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Hi guys.
Just a quick question. Is Raging Deathbringer (one hand axe drop from Ony25) really that good for me? I'm having a hard time believing it's better than even the ilvl 251 weapons.
My character name is Gingerprawn on US blackrock.
I load up my profile, untick all raid buffs. I then look at the MH weapon chart to see Raging Deathbringer ranked above the wrathful gladiator weapons.
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03/12/10, 7:34 AM
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#14665
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Banned
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Originally Posted by Rouncer
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See this is my problem, which is right?
Shamanistic Rage is not on the GCD.
I went to the same site and we have 2 different answers. I went there before you made your reply, and this was the answer I got, that is why I asked this question.
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03/12/10, 7:41 AM
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#14666
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Glass Joe
Undead Warlock
Shattered Halls (EU)
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Originally Posted by randa
But I agree with you that ShadowGreenLight addon needs to have some visual indication that if u recast correction at that particular moment you will be greeted with crude words "more powerful spell is already active". If this is incorporated in addon, you would be able to react in accordance to it (pop spell pot or cast soc to wipe existing one before casting new corruption).
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Correct me if I'm wrong but if a more powerful Corruption is already on the boss, would it be the right choice to remove it with an SoC to put up a new Corruption? Surely if the original is more powerful you should leave it running..
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03/12/10, 8:07 AM
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#14667
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Undead Mage
Aggramar (EU)
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Originally Posted by Draax
Is there a BiS list for 10 man non-heroic ICC? I couldn't seem to find one
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+1 for that.
Ive tried to put rawr in wor for me but it counts 25 and heroic items, even if i filter those  .
If someone can spare 5 mins and put gear list i will be thankfull.
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03/12/10, 8:31 AM
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#14668
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Glass Joe
Draenei Shaman
The Venture Co (EU)
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Shamanistic Rage is on the GCD. Why don't you just go ingame and use it and see if the gcd is triggered?
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03/12/10, 8:32 AM
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#14669
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Glass Joe
Gnome Mage
Hellscream (EU)
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Has anyone done a BIS list for a fire mage?
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03/12/10, 9:03 AM
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#14670
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Glass Joe
Human Death Knight
Gul'dan (EU)
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Whats the single target dps difference between 5/5 Necrosis and 3/5 Necrosis 2/3 Morbidity?
(Edit: with the new frost subspec)
Last edited by bigdan : 03/12/10 at 9:13 AM.
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03/12/10, 9:44 AM
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#14671
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Glass Joe
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Well i took a 3 month break from the game and when i went back into ZG for the first time a few weeks ago, my first couple of Thekal pulls went bad as well. I can't pinpoint exactly what was going wrong, but i made a couple of simple changes to what i was doing and i haven't had a single bad pull since. All i do is:
1) Leave pet under the back part of the first arch heading into the area. Make sure he's set to passive.
2) MD pet and run into maximum range of Thekal.
3) Hit your auto-attack and let it fire twice.
4) By the second auto-shot Thekal and his gang should be almost on top of you (if you don't have Hawk Eye). Feign Death.
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03/12/10, 10:06 AM
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#14672
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Blood Elf Rogue
Bladefist
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Combat Dps and Rotation
I need serious help with my Dps. The World of Warcraft Armory - Shilock @ Bladefist - Profile according to latest spreadsheet i should be doing somewhere around 8500, but never sniffed that. I have done my homework, read countless number of threads and still cannot seem to grasp what im doing wrong.
Take latest Saurfang 10man, Tot the tank then bring up a 2/3 SnD, KS, build to eviscerate, pop trinkets and AR early if BL is not going to be used till later in the fight and stack eviscerate while watching SnD CD. Using BF and KS of course before beasts appear. I still only manage to be around 5800 by the time the fight is over.
In addition, can someone please explain pooling energy a little more, is that to say stop spamming SS and let my energy bar build back up? I have talked with elite combat spec in game and they all say the same thing, just keep SnD up and build my eviscerate.
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03/12/10, 10:23 AM
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#14673
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Banned
Draenei Shaman
Trollbane (EU)
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GOD the admins on this site are a bunch of stuck up pricks
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03/12/10, 11:49 AM
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#14674
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Glass Joe
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Hey, did you mean to put [Shadowvault Slayer's Cloak] into the "Plate Items from Heroic Modes" instead of [Winding Sheet]?
And I thought that since the addition of the strength rings from Ashen Verdict that it was a better choice for us than the agility one.
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03/12/10, 1:06 PM
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#14675
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Human Death Knight
Doomhammer (EU)
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Has anyone figured out what the new cookie cutter frost DW spec will be? Perhaps one with and without revitalizing druid in the pocket?
-Naz
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