Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 594

Aggronautt · 10/11/09, 3:33 PM

Gotta say my favorite beer is Sapporo. Great japanese beer. When I can't get my hands on that, however, I stick with good ole' Budweiser.

notimeremains · 10/11/09, 3:42 PM

is Firestone on 0/13/58 still the way to go or does the haste of Spellstone do more damage?

Aggronautt · 10/11/09, 3:55 PM

Originally Posted by adrielneo

i was wondering how frequent is the use of heroic strike/slam of you guys? cause personally i rarely use em unless im at full rage+all my skills are during CD, so i was wondering is 4P T9 really nessecary? im at 2 piece now, pants and shoulders and im doing decent dps at 4.5-5k in 25man(able to reach 6k somtimes)

any comments or advises?

I gotta ask you, why DON'T you use Slam? That's basically your filler in between OP/Execute procs and MS. What else do you do? Just sit there with your finger up your ass? There's no point in not using Slam. One could say Arms is GCD locked, but I'd only say that if you ARE using slam. There just isn't anything else to use. And que up a HS before you hit MS, and they hit at the same time. At your gear level rage shouldn't be an issue.

Tihsho · 10/11/09, 4:01 PM

Originally Posted by Kivshani

Arcane Shot and Explosive Shot are on the dame cooldown. You shouldn't be using Arcane Shot at all if you have Explosive Shot.

Yeah, I must have missed that. I have not played my hunter in a few months. I quit after a bit and then focused on the priest.

Much thanks.

Hulkroguen · 10/11/09, 4:39 PM

Hi guys, pre-ArP nerf I was doing 4k DPS, now I'm lucky if I can do 3k. The change in ArP shouldn't have made such a huge change the only thing I can think of is I've changed my spec to the Incite spec, and I'm kinda confused as to where I should put Heroic Strike in my Priority/Rotation; should I be using it instead of Slam? What priority/rotation should I be using with Incite spec?

I'm at 36% ArP from gear not including gems, which bring me up to 41.80%.
I'm hit capped, and expertise capped for dodging.
3400 Attack Power, unbuffed
28.40% crit, unbuffed

Also in groups where we don't have a warrior tank, I apply my own sunders; is this a bad idea? I normally get about 100-200 more dps from it, and threat issues don't really exist in Lich King.

Armory: (but I might have my PvP set on)
The World of Warcraft Armory

Jek Hawkins · 10/11/09, 5:11 PM

So....I heard what I think is the darnedest thing I've EVER heard in the history of my WoW experience. I was told I have TOO MUCH crit (chance)! A death knight tells me that anything over 30% critical suffers a sort of diminishing returns in that one crits more often, but for less. Intrigued, because I'd never heard of this before, I Googled it some, searched on forums, but could find nothing saying this (and maybe I didn't search hard enough, that's possible). I am hesitant to buy into the thought, because feral druids hit 60% critical no sweat and rogues make 45% easily, and honestly speaking, it didn't take any effort for me to get up to my current unbuffed 36% crit.

So can anyone confirm or disprove a crit damage diminishing returns effect?

Thanks in advance.

BWarner · 10/11/09, 5:27 PM

No such thing as "diminishing returns on critical strike chance/damage". A Critical hit for us is 2x normal damage, no matter what (and, actually, more than that, due to Impale + Meta Gem + Axe/Poleaxe Spec). The only thing that comes close is the "crit cap", but is a total non-issue for the overwhelming majority of Warriors (basically unattainable for us, except in extreme or extremely odd gearing situations). Also, casters only get a base 1.5x normal damage upon critting, but that is by design (DKs in particular are a special case, as they get 2x damage with all crits, if I remember correctly).

I'd call him on this one.

taluene · 10/11/09, 5:41 PM

Originally Posted by Krumsha

Taluene,Rise your Hit rating to 263,and try to pute 2 point in Weapon Mastery or reach 22 Expertise. You are undercapped and this can be one of the problems,letting the bosses miss,dodge or parry your attacks.
I can't say anything else.

This was just a temporary issue. Ive been dancing around hit and expertise cap. even when they are capped, there is not difference in damage. Even if they are a few tenths of a percent off, aside from the extra crit % due to hit mechanics, a rage potion fixes the damage lost.

BWarner · 10/11/09, 5:44 PM

Originally Posted by taluene

This was just a temporary issue. Ive been dancing around hit and expertise cap. even when they are capped, there is not difference in damage. Even if they are a few tenths of a percent off, aside from the extra crit % due to hit mechanics, a rage potion fixes the damage lost.

?!?! Why would you ever use a rage potion? You get significantly more out of a Haste, Armor, or Crit potion.

Krames · 10/11/09, 5:50 PM

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Hunbunn · 10/11/09, 7:14 PM

This should be an easy question to answer but I can't find it anywhere. What percentage of passive armor penetration surpasses soft cap + grim toll in dps?

taluene · 10/11/09, 7:17 PM

Are arms warriors still avoiding haste at all costs?

musen2k7 · 10/11/09, 7:46 PM

hello i just started to play warrior again after i had a little break im confused about if i should continue to stack armorpenetration even after i reach the soft cap? (grimtoll)
as for now i gem with str gems instead of arp gems. I can buy 2x t9 ilvl 232 atm thats 6% more armorpenetration from battle stance, but i feel they are such a small upgrade from my t8.5 so i rather wait for ilvl245

edit: should i take away grimtoll and get 2 x t9 for 6%armorpene and gem all arp? i should get quite a lot of arp then

regards rob

Aggronautt · 10/11/09, 7:49 PM

Originally Posted by Jek Hawkins

So....I heard what I think is the darnedest thing I've EVER heard in the history of my WoW experience. I was told I have TOO MUCH crit (chance)! A death knight tells me that anything over 30% critical suffers a sort of diminishing returns in that one crits more often, but for less. Intrigued, because I'd never heard of this before, I Googled it some, searched on forums, but could find nothing saying this (and maybe I didn't search hard enough, that's possible). I am hesitant to buy into the thought, because feral druids hit 60% critical no sweat and rogues make 45% easily, and honestly speaking, it didn't take any effort for me to get up to my current unbuffed 36% crit.

So can anyone confirm or disprove a crit damage diminishing returns effect?

Thanks in advance.

Wow. That's 100% bullshit, I'm afraid. You were told that by an idiot.

Darendan · 10/11/09, 9:15 PM

I was wondering if since the two best trinkets in game right now for rogues were Deaths Choice (HEROIC) and Comets trail, Is using all that arp gonna be lowering your dps if you were to otherwise stack Agi gems. I know that unless you have a trinket like Grim toll or Mjolnir Runestone to get yourself to soft cap it is pretty useles to gem for arp. Please people try and help me out just looking for some solid information