Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 626

Jezbelle · 11/03/09, 1:08 PM

Originally Posted by Lesrek

All this coming from a paladin who hasn't downed a boss in ToGC in either 10 or 25. One of the paladins you quoted has completed all of ToGC 25 and is pulling 8k+ dps. How much dps are you doing that you are only finishing 5th in a guild that doesn't do heroics?

My guild is more "casual" though all dps are 5000+ dps in all fights with top 10 being above or near my dps.

In my current gear I pull:

6k+ on Beasts

7.5k+ on Jaraxxus [I cleanse Fel Fireball interrupt fails]

6k+ on Faction Champs

10.5k+ on Twins

6k+ on Anub [Melee is NOT allowed to touch white scarabs in our guild helps keep down spawns

]

I obviously don't know how to play don't listen to me LOL.

Edit: The casualness of my guild = 1 - 1.5 hours each week to do Toc 25 and Ony 25. That is all we do as a guild and the rest of the week is yours to do whatever you want to. We are basically made up of Alts/Altaholics so it works well for us.

Like i said though, don't listen to me I don't know what im doing

Jezbelle · 11/03/09, 1:21 PM

Originally Posted by Zurm

Oh dear. Allow me to inform you sir, because this unfortunately is something the truly uninformed continuously bring up.

If we had unlimited GCDs available, you would be correct; the highest damage buttons would be the best to push first. However, we do not live in that system. We do have a finite number of GCDs, and even after the 4s CS change we still have quite some downtime. As such, we have to look at each ability's potential DPS to maximize our overall DPS. While I don't have the time to go into exact specifics, if you bothered to read the 3.2 thread you would have read the answer about 5 times as to why you are horribly wrong. Also, just because YOU sit at the top 5 DPS in your guild is not empirical evidence that you are correct; for all we know the rest of your guild-mates could be just as ill-informed as you are and making the same types of mistakes.

Furthermore, exorcism won't be doing such good damage once you drop the glyph. Obviously SoV Glyph isn't ideal for you, but you've already proven your incredible prowess at ret with the fact that you wear 38 expertise instead of 26, a full 3% above the cap.

I look forward to seeing the post in The Banhammer after the mods have their way with you.

EDIT: Your math above proves nothing and is horribly wrong. While for your short window you may have higher damage, in the long run your system proves nothing. After you open with your awful exo-first system, you will have many more GCD's you're just WAITING on...that's lots of lost DPS because you move each ability's effective cooldown up.

I disagree with your view of how you are using "effective dps" as the basis of your priority decisions.You have your opinion I have mine.

Being petty and calling for a Banhammer? Really now.

BTW I am well aware of my current expertise of 38 and NOT AT ALL happy with it, but that is how the drops panned out for me. For one, I unfortunately am still running around with Worldcarver for a weapon. I don't enjoy PvP in WoW so that's what I got for now.

Milou · 11/03/09, 3:09 PM

Originally Posted by mortar

Well i just started to play my rog again after a month..
with the new cap versus the previous one..is it worth to go 735 with runestone? because I got a friend with identical gear and the number shown in recount is pretty weak.. and when he told me his attack power is just around 4000 unbuff..

The answer is 42.

superbike2001 · 11/03/09, 4:26 PM

First post!

I have been searching for a good discription about "Ranged Crit" but I cannot seem to find one. Im sure I have over looked it.

My Ranged Crit seems very low (11.39%) But my Melee seems a little to high. Beining a caster I would think my ranged Crit would need to be higher? I think somehting is a little backwards. Im not sure if it is a gear thing or what?

Can someone point me in the right direction or help me get a better understanding of why mine is so low?

Thanks!

Bubz · 11/03/09, 4:29 PM

My first post here. Quick question regarding best trinkets that are obtainable. Currently I am using the [Reign of the Unliving] (non-heroic version, sorry could not fix this) and [Embrace of the Spider]. Ignoring hard mode H TOC and H Algalon and H Yogg, what is the best trinket in game to replace [Embrace of the Spider]?

Shkarn · 11/03/09, 4:50 PM

Originally Posted by superbike2001

First post!

I have been searching for a good discription about "Ranged Crit" but I cannot seem to find one. Im sure I have over looked it.

My Ranged Crit seems very low (11.39%) But my Melee seems a little to high. Beining a caster I would think my ranged Crit would need to be higher? I think somehting is a little backwards. Im not sure if it is a gear thing or what?

Can someone point me in the right direction or help me get a better understanding of why mine is so low?

Thanks!

You should be looking at Spell crit, not ranged crit.

shoei · 11/03/09, 5:20 PM

i've tried to look around the forum for my answer but i couldn't find it and was wondering if you guys would help me out.

i was told that the t9.245 item was no good and that it was better to buy the non set tier pieces is this true for a roguge?

hkkilian · 11/03/09, 5:27 PM

Ah, that explains it. Thanks for clearing that up - and for your swift reply.

Zedicuss · 11/03/09, 6:45 PM

Originally Posted by Gasillio

The top arena frost mages currently are Pookz in 3v3/5v5 and Flýn in 2v2.

You can see their armories by clicking on the links. Basically the same build with a few shuffled points.

Thank you so much. I'll check them out.

Corbs · 11/03/09, 10:28 PM

So is the basic rotation for arcane AB until missile barrage proc then arcane missiles?

moobear · 11/03/09, 10:51 PM

Thanks all

really appreciate the help, i'll probably follow pinkshirtbadman's advice on weapon combo.

Once again thanks to all!

greendestiny · 11/04/09, 12:07 AM

Here is my armory:
The World of Warcraft Armory

I have been told that my dps is really low for my GS level. I have tried to fix it many times by tweaking my rotation a little bit but my dps has only gone up slightly. I do anywhere from 4.5 to 5.2 dps..What is hindering my dps?

My rotation is:
FF, Moonfire, IS, wrath til lunar eclipse then starfire til that eclipse ends...

now here is where I have changed. I used to stop my starfire if I didn't have enough time to finish the cast before the eclipsed ended. I was told to stop doing that and let my cast go fully. I also keep my dots up and never let them drop. Where am I going wrong?

Videl · 11/04/09, 1:19 AM

There's pretty much no situation in which stopping a cast that would finish successfully is going to gain you dps.

nesf · 11/04/09, 1:28 AM

Originally Posted by greendestiny

Here is my armory:
The World of Warcraft Armory

I have been told that my dps is really low for my GS level. I have tried to fix it many times by tweaking my rotation a little bit but my dps has only gone up slightly. I do anywhere from 4.5 to 5.2 dps..What is hindering my dps?

My rotation is:
FF, Moonfire, IS, wrath til lunar eclipse then starfire til that eclipse ends...

now here is where I have changed. I used to stop my starfire if I didn't have enough time to finish the cast before the eclipsed ended. I was told to stop doing that and let my cast go fully. I also keep my dots up and never let them drop. Where am I going wrong?

You've two terrible trinkets for a moonkin. Haste procs only benefit you when you're casting Starfire when you're over the haste cap* meaning that when that trinket pops and you're casting anything else you're not getting a dps boost. You want trinkets that proc Spellpower. Abyssal Rune and Sundial of the Exalted are easy to get.

Read this very carefully: http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t66856-moonkin_pve_dps/

*Not strictly true but true enough for this context.

Denrire · 11/04/09, 5:07 AM

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