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Old 12/27/08, 3:26 AM   #1551
Usernaem
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Human Paladin
 
Bleeding Hollow
Originally Posted by Merovengian View Post
Assuming a boss encounter, which is the only situation where this even becomes viable, your already down 2 Blood judgements, the extra dmg on Cs/Ds to get the 5 stack going.. then reseal and start dpsing.

the mana consumption of 'seal twisting' is so penalizing that it becomes unsustainable over the duration of a bossfight, assuming no AoE dmg.

Ret dps is currently designed around a sustainable non-aoe encounter rotation of Blood/Martyr Judge/Cs/Ds.. if you add anything more than that you will have mana issues. Holy Wrath/Exorcism when available or consecrate all get you in this boat. If you add the mana drain of seal twisting your talking about just meleeing as you sit there OOM loosing the dps meters.

Blood, end of story.
Makes sense, however I was far too lazy to even test it out (as I previously stated, it was unknown to me). I agree though, good post.

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Old 12/27/08, 6:45 AM   #1552
Lolka
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Human Priest
 
Страж Смерти (EU)
Guys, can some1 tell how to earn with tailoring. I have 425 and only 200g

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Old 12/27/08, 7:34 AM   #1553
Arastonachis
Glass Joe
 
Troll Mage
 
Frostwolf (EU)
Hy!

Someone tested 20/51 vs 51/17+3 on PTR? I'm not shure what will bring out the most DPS.

Will TotW definitely work on all Bosses?

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Old 12/27/08, 9:00 AM   #1554
raistlinthewiz
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Undead Mage
 
Al'Akir (EU)
i was once used nostromo's pad but being used to keyboards pissed me. ergodex seems really good anyway i wish i had one

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Old 12/27/08, 9:01 AM   #1555
raistlinthewiz
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Undead Mage
 
Al'Akir (EU)
been using pitbull for along time and im quite happy with it

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Old 12/27/08, 9:04 AM   #1556
raistlinthewiz
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Undead Mage
 
Al'Akir (EU)
mostly rpers can benefit i think. the rest doesn't mind that all

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Old 12/27/08, 9:05 AM   #1557
raistlinthewiz
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Undead Mage
 
Al'Akir (EU)
seems a very nice addon i'll advice it to my guild matey healers

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Old 12/27/08, 9:14 AM   #1558
raistlinthewiz
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Undead Mage
 
Al'Akir (EU)
so it still works for the current patch?

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Old 12/27/08, 10:11 AM   #1559
pop69
Glass Joe
 
Human Rogue
 
Aegwynn
im currently at 0/44/27, mostly heroic gear + 2 t7
i tested on dummies with bonecrusher/fang and also fang/fang (FC on mh and razorice on OH)
rotation was PS IT HB BS BS > FS dump PS IT HB IT IT > FS dump

managed to pull slightly higher dps with blood, both weapon combinations (slow/fast and fast/fast), not to mention its more laid back with blood pres lol

yet i keep reading unholy > blood @@

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Old 12/27/08, 2:00 PM   #1560
Elnaith
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Blood Elf Warlock
 
Mal'Ganis
I just started a Pally to try out for a bit, he'll be Ret and i might give him an heirloom 2H if i start to like the class enough. The problem here is that i have no idea on how to spec, or what professions would work. I'll need a Ret build for leveling, some profession ideas, rotations, etc. Should i just focus on +Str and a slow 2H with high max-damage?

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Old 12/27/08, 2:40 PM   #1561
Kint
Von Kaiser
 
Dwarf Priest
 
Laughing Skull
Slampig did 6600 on Patchwerk last night.

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Old 12/27/08, 4:10 PM   #1562
Vans
 
Blood Elf Rogue
 
Aerie Peak (EU)
what font is that on yer unitframes and chat led? if ur willing to dish it out:P

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Old 12/27/08, 6:06 PM   #1563
Bessa
Von Kaiser
 
Human Warlock
 
Stormrage (EU)
WWS or it did'nt happen Come on, you knew it was coming hehe.

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Old 12/27/08, 7:20 PM   #1564
Dolhin
 
Gnome Death Knight
 
Shattered Hand (EU)
1.What you think about Armor penetration for DW DK's ? I compare [Belabored Legplates] and [Leggings of the Honored] also i think lether better then plate because ArP nothing gives to us.It so ?
2. Second question how much expertise rating need for DW ?How much important its for DW ?
3. 2x [Hailstorm] best choice for us after patch or [Last Laugh] + [Hailstorm] better ?

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Old 12/27/08, 8:55 PM   #1565
righ
Glass Joe
 
Undead Warlock
 
Twisting Nether (EU)
Yes this is indeed interesting to see effects of posting anything in this thread. Mare hours after I posted this screenshot prices skyrocketed. Ink of the sea 60g up from 10g and so on. It could be funny to alter some piece of info and see what happens. Fortunetly I had solid stock of mats before it spread like fire. Yes that milion people that read these forums make some impact.

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Old 12/27/08, 10:08 PM   #1566
Trouble
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Trouble
Blood Elf Druid
 
No WoW Account
I wouldn't post something here until I had thoroughly exploited it for myself.

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Old 12/28/08, 4:25 AM   #1567
Tinhay
Hybrid?
 
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Orc Death Knight
 
Laughing Skull (EU)
Wouldn’t it be nice to have this thread moved to the BB…

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Old 12/28/08, 4:39 AM   #1568
Bayk
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Staghelm
I was just on the PTR and the talent says it reduces the cooldown on chain lightning by by 1.5 seconds but the cooldown is still 3.5 seconds. Whether this is intended or not I don't know...

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Old 12/28/08, 7:38 AM   #1569
Binkenstein
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Khaz'goroth
Then can you please go and discuss it in the shaman forum, rather than here.


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Old 12/28/08, 9:33 AM   #1570
Dolhin
 
Gnome Death Knight
 
Shattered Hand (EU)
Originally Posted by Dolhin View Post
1.What you think about Armor penetration for DW DK's ? I compare [Belabored Legplates] and [Leggings of the Honored] also i think lether better then plate because ArP nothing gives to us.It so ?
2. Second question how much expertise rating need for DW ?How much important its for DW ?
3. 2x [Hailstorm] best choice for us after patch or [Last Laugh] + [Hailstorm] better ?
bump^

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Old 12/28/08, 11:35 AM   #1571
locriani
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Tauren Shaman
 
Mal'Ganis
I'm new to beer (medical problems restricted alcohol consumption{, and had my first ever Guinness the other day. It did not sit very well with me. Any suggestions that would be better for getting started in beerdom?

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Old 12/28/08, 2:30 PM   #1572
Liania
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Blood Elf Warlock
 
Mazrigos (EU)
Ty.

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Old 12/28/08, 5:23 PM   #1573
Deathstalkr
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Dragonmaw
Originally Posted by Bullshot View Post
Those were wind serpents due to their Lightning Breath, not scorpids.
ahh, yes...my fault. TY!

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Old 12/28/08, 8:32 PM   #1574
Lacussama
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Night Elf Death Knight
 
<Ace>
Khadgar (EU)
The World of Warcraft Armory

I am using this spec. But i don't know what rotation to use. Could anyone help me with this? Also what presence should i use with this build?

Last edited by Lacussama : 12/28/08 at 8:44 PM.

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Old 12/28/08, 10:07 PM   #1575
Trifle
Piston Honda
 
Dwarf Hunter
 
Cenarius
When I tried it I just got a forest emerald and a sky sapphire ;(

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