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Old 11/10/09, 6:18 PM   #9541
tossene_mike
 
Human Warrior
 
Terenas (EU)
Here's my UI




This version is not yet complete and is still being tweaked

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Old 11/10/09, 7:13 PM   #9542
Cooljo
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Human Rogue
 
Wrathbringer (EU)
Playing HaT is more like a priority thing, rather than a rotation thing.
Your priority would be:

Stay alive
Keep SnD up 1+CPs
Keep TotT on CD (depending on glyphs and talents)
Keep Expose Armor up (depending on availability of sunder and time on target)
Keep Rupture up 4+CPs (depending on T8 4pc and talents)
Eviscerate 4+CP
Hemorrhage ~80+Energy

But now that the 1sec internal CD on HaT is enforced you probably WILL yield more dps going combat/mutilate with same gear. So HaT isn't really viable for (endgame) raiding. You missed the time before the internal CD implementation where this spec was competitive or superior to the current raiding specs.

Also because of the internal CD it would be worth a consideration to actually wait for the fifth CP before rupturing/eviscerating since the reaction time should be enough. But as said, if you want to go for max dps I would suggest you to take a look at the pocket guide thread.

And yeah: 3/3 LR + 2/5 Aggression > 0/3LR + 5/5 Aggression (via spreadsheet)

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Old 11/10/09, 8:15 PM   #9543
Tiqal
 
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Undead Mage
 
Destromath
in terms of numbers what should an arcane mage's hit ideally be for 25 ToGC(while being specced too)

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Old 11/11/09, 12:33 AM   #9544
chinoquezada
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Dwarf Hunter
 
Turalyon (EU)
Originally Posted by dedmonwakeen View Post
The variable names for forcing the buffs and debuffs all start out with "override.xxx"

override.heroic_presence=1
Ran into the same problem, this solved it.

EDIT:
The examples in the new GUI seem to imply that only putting heroic_presence=1 in the overrides tab would be enough, but I found out that you still need to precede every override with "override." in order for them to function properly.

Last edited by chinoquezada : 11/12/09 at 5:28 PM.

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Old 11/11/09, 2:14 AM   #9545
doogless
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Draenei Shaman
 
Kil'Jaeden
If you bind W, A, and D to abilities, how do you move?

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Old 11/11/09, 6:34 AM   #9546
xanya
 
Human Warlock
 
Cenarius
gems

So I am a destruction warlock and trying to figure out if I have the correct gems. Does anyone have any advice on which gems a d. warlock should be using

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Old 11/11/09, 7:03 AM   #9547
Ezy
Glass Joe
 
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Ysondre
We've been attempting to get a great setup for GDKP for the past two weeks and it actually either A) The pugs attracted arent willing to spend massive amounts of gold or B) People are starting to outgear the run, even pugs, with such easily access to gear now. Would definately be nice to do early on in ICC though.

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Old 11/11/09, 7:08 AM   #9548
Ezy
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Ysondre
A lot of people have claimed that merging their account with Battle.net has caused it to be hacked, but in reality it has not really, what has been happening, most commonly is that your computer had a keylogger on it prior to the merger, but with the "Remember Account Name" option on the login screen, you haven't had to type in your account name, while your password has been keylogged upon typing it in, but once you merge your account, you have to enter your e-mail as your account name, or however you have done it. That is when your account is stolen, since the keylogger already had your account password, but not the actual account name. Scan your computer! We had one of our ret paladins hacked three times in 10 days from this, and he had to be givin a new battle.net account due to his stupidity.

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Old 11/11/09, 7:19 AM   #9549
Rannasha
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Tauren Druid
 
Draenor (EU)
Originally Posted by Ezy View Post
A lot of people have claimed that merging their account with Battle.net has caused it to be hacked, but in reality it has not really, what has been happening, most commonly is that your computer had a keylogger on it prior to the merger, but with the "Remember Account Name" option on the login screen, you haven't had to type in your account name, while your password has been keylogged upon typing it in, but once you merge your account, you have to enter your e-mail as your account name, or however you have done it. That is when your account is stolen, since the keylogger already had your account password, but not the actual account name. Scan your computer! We had one of our ret paladins hacked three times in 10 days from this, and he had to be givin a new battle.net account due to his stupidity.
I don't believe this to be the cause of the increased number of reports of compromised accounts. After all, a decent keylogger can find out your account name in ways other than you typing it. Look at the WTF-folder in your WoW directory. Your accountname is used as a name for the folder containing game and addon settings specific to that account. It's trivial for a malware program to find this.

What i believe to be the case is people registering on WoW-fansites and the likes using the same email-address and password they use for their Battle.net account. These websites will not have the same level of security that Blizzard can provide and once they're compromised (or even if the website owner is malicious) you can lose your account without ever having had a keylogger on your system.

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Old 11/11/09, 7:19 AM   #9550
Ezy
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Ysondre
Paladin (Holy)

1,2,3,4 Holy Shock, FoL, HL, Cleanse
5-7 JoL, HoJ, Bubble As offensive/defensive
8&9 Arcane Torrent as its a 2 minute CD and not used so often, with consecration which I just use to hold up combat on a rogue, or break out stealths usually.

I have a 17 button mouse, Razer Naga so the 12 keys on the side are as follows
1-3 Judgements
4-6 Hand of Sac, Hand of Freedom, Hand of Prot
7- Divine sac
8-divine plea
9-SS
10-Divine Illum
11-AM
12-Holy Wrath
F2- Hand of Salv
F3-Trinket
F4-Turn evil focus

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Old 11/11/09, 7:28 AM   #9551
Kelondra
 
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Night Elf Druid
 
Der Mithrilorden (EU)
Hi, i was wondering what the best meta-gem for [Conqueror's Nightsong Headpiece] would be (restoration druid).
Currently i have it equipped with [Ember Skyflare Diamond], second socket is a [Item not found!]. when playing around with rawr, i found out that the helm, equipped with [Insightful Earthsiege Diamond] gets a much higher rating. since my equipment has got quite a lot of spirit, mana regen is not an issue to me. As i gahter, at roughly 1k int, the [Ember Skyflare Diamond] would give me about the same ammount of int, plus 25SP instead of mana regen. am i doing anything worong or should i stick with my current gemming ?
thanks!

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Old 11/11/09, 9:23 AM   #9552
Rhadamanthis
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Human Warlock
 
Shadowsong (EU)
Originally Posted by xanya View Post
So I am a destruction warlock and trying to figure out if I have the correct gems. Does anyone have any advice on which gems a d. warlock should be using
The mod in my sig will tell you the right gems to use, item per item.

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Old 11/11/09, 10:35 AM   #9553
teneran
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Tauren Druid
 
Skullcrusher
Originally Posted by Kelondra View Post
Hi, i was wondering what the best meta-gem for [Conqueror's Nightsong Headpiece] would be (restoration druid).
Currently i have it equipped with [Ember Skyflare Diamond], second socket is a [Item not found!]. when playing around with rawr, i found out that the helm, equipped with [Insightful Earthsiege Diamond] gets a much higher rating. since my equipment has got quite a lot of spirit, mana regen is not an issue to me. As i gahter, at roughly 1k int, the [Ember Skyflare Diamond] would give me about the same ammount of int, plus 25SP instead of mana regen. am i doing anything worong or should i stick with my current gemming ?
thanks!
Most people consider the mana gain (600 mana) from the Insightful Earthseige to be far better than 25 SP, myself included. With my current gear an additional 25 SP is less than 1% throughput but 600 mana is getting off another heal. I don't know what type of fights you currently do but on hardmode/heroic content mana use can become an issue. Also, more mana regen can allow you to give out your Innervate to others which can be very useful for a raid.

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Old 11/11/09, 12:21 PM   #9554
cerin616
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Night Elf Rogue
 
Laughing Skull
Quick question. I recently got the fourth piece of my t9 set. I was using the shoulders and pants at first, and i was using them with the gloves of the silver assassin and the armor of shifting shadows (round about 104 ArP rating) I switched out the two pieces for my t9, and the change in states is minimal other than the trade of 100 Armor pen for a t9 4set. Is this worth it? I havn't had time to actaually test it yet, but i am skeptical.

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Old 11/11/09, 12:53 PM   #9555
Hati[GER]
 
Undead Rogue
 
Echsenkessel (EU)
[Suggestion] Maybe a solution for Weapon Swapping

Originally Posted by Banedon View Post
Except that poison swapping is sounding more and more likely to be nerfed in 3.3, so you may never get them at the same time.
Hopefully they will not just nerf it - instead they will add an alternative (rogue patch notes for 3.3 are not soo huge)

I already had an idea how to prevent ppl from swapping daggers or make it more valuable to stay with your DP-Offhand

-- Why I post it here?
So ... if you like the idea - (i don't think it is perfect) - but maybe it is a solution the dev's are looking for - so somebody could carry it to the US-Forums and so on - so it can spread a bit

here it is:
Deadly Poison works until 5stacks exactly like it does now in Patch-3.2.2, the change i want to add is - if you reached 5stacks (this where ppl start to swap) - your DP of your offhand deals Instant Damage if you hit your mob (and it procs)
since DP (if iam informed right) has an "inner"-Cooldown of 3seconds (due to prevent that it never will tick) it is already maximized in Ppm's (20 procs)
the instant Damage follows one(1) of the following three(3) formulas:
1) InstantDamage= ProcChance (includes Talents)%*currentTickDamage (30% w/o talents, 40% w/ talent)
2) InstantDamage= ProcChance (includes Envonem + Talents)%*currentTickDamage (would end up with 40% + (depends on uptime) 0-15% (Envenom Buff))
3) InstantDamage= (1/3)*currentTickDamage



so basicly this means:
DP deals damage on application (second zero) - already "controlled" by Proc-Chance and (inner-Cooldown)

Calcs: (all values are taken from my raid logs and combat against Jaraxus (no aoe-spreading))
Combat Rogue Avg. DP5 dmg: 1285.8
Mutilate Rogue Avg. DP5 dmg: 2031.2

Combat would end up with:
1)
w/o talent : 385.74
w/ talent : 514.32 (~avg Wound Poison dmg)
2)
depends on Envenom usage & talent - not skilled (assume) would end up lower than talented ( not dp stacks on target after envo)
3) 428.6 dmg (lower than WP dmg but its additional dmg to DP - so it will lead to more)

Mutilate would be like that:
1)
w/o talent : 609.36
w/ talent : 812.48 (~avg Wound Poison dmg)
2)
approx. 100% uptime of envo buff (rupture less cycle)
0.55* 2031.2 = 1117.16
approx 30% uptime envo buff (with rupture)
(0.4+(0.3*0.15))*2031.2 = 903.884

3) (1/3)*2031.2 = 677.06_ (6_ = period 6)

Again note:
I don't know if there is a inner-cooldown on Deadly Poison if it is 3seconds - it should be fine with this values

Mutilate F1 ~= 203.12dps (w/o talent) // 270.826_ dps (w/ talent)
Mutilate F2 ~= 372.386_ dps (100%) // 301.295 dps (30%)
Mutilate F3 ~= 225.687 dps

-- double dipping etc. /synergies i know might look too good but that's just an idea how to fix it

hopefully it is right here in this thread :x

as i don't know how much additional damage (dps) weapon swapping willl lead too - but it think for mutilate it is approx +300-500 dps

Formula 2 isn't that bad


Additional Informations:
This additional 0s proc should only occur at 5stacks / application of the 5th stack (so from 4->5, and refresh of 5stacks)
English is not my native language ... so hopefully it is understandable :x - just wrote it up from head to board

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