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Old 12/28/08, 10:59 PM   #1576
pyriel000
Glass Joe
 
Human Warlock
 
Windrunner
sry this may or may not be in the wrong thread, if it is feel free to move it or PM me...

anyway, i've been doing all the lock theorying for my guild as of late and im horrible at it haha

if anyones up to it id greatly appreciate some constructive criticism on what ive been doing. i've been tryin to do all the theory myself but as i stated above im not to great at it.

ok so..
heres my current build affl build

and the reason for all the supres/cat is because of the trinket i picked up a lil while back (armory link)

oh and lets not forget the obligatory WWS report
( i messed up infernal and DS timing on that one pretty good lol, but its as current as i got atm)

now before you burn me down completely let me explain my logic on all this..

i've spent ungodly amounts of time on dummies doing more benchmarks than i care to count, and for my playstyle i came up with results that molten core wasnt really helping me to much, on the other hand i found that when i picked up the egg trinket, though its uptime is not amazing in raids, it was actually a dps increase of ~100 over war prisoner trinket and gemming accordingly and droping the hit talents

as a rot im using Haunt > US > Corr > CoA > SL > immo > bolts and upkeep ( naturally swapping bolts for DS at the appropriate boss HP)

ive seen alot of info saying that its better to put a bolt up first to get an embrace going before i start my opening rot, but i found that to be a very minor increase vs. haunt having such a fast cast time and it putting up embrace as well...in essence slower dps in the first few seconds vs getting all my dots up quickly and efficiently, giving me a hair of breathing room for any movement or repositioning before i have to start renewing.

also, ive seen quite a bit of ppl leaing towards imps over fel hunters. this is somethign that has confused me a little. now, i honestly cant for the life of me figure out why but one day after picking upa couple minor upgrades i went to test on some dummies and found my shadow bite suddenly hitting for ALOT more than it previously had, much more than any gear should have upped it, probably from some hotfix or something i missed who knows.

as to gear, yea theres alot im mising ideally, heigan ring, heigan chest...a worthwhile weapon such as turning tide (/drool), some flippin new bracers (dont ask lol) etc etc, im largely in tier gear but alot of the other slots r lacking, such is RNG/dkp i suppose...



TLDR: i wold greatly appreciate some constructive criticism on my play style, spec and gear...in the wws, though i meesed up a bit, my dps feels to me as though it should be higher, having trouble figuring out why

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Old 12/28/08, 11:37 PM   #1577
nihilis
Glass Joe
 
Undead Warlock
 
Nagrand (EU)
nightfall, corruption glyph dps

start with shadowbolt>haunt>corr>ua>immolate>agony>sl.

idea is getting embrace benefit asap then most dps spell rotation. (no dpct)


tick/tick frequency will give you dps of the dot.

Last edited by nihilis : 12/29/08 at 12:09 AM. Reason: typo

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Old 12/29/08, 1:17 AM   #1579
alixina
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Uldaman
0/41/30

Hi i'm new here and this is my first post ^_^
Don't rlly know how to do this but here goes:

Wow web stats
(btw theres alot fo AoE in there)

0/41/30

Spellpower buffed with fel=1885
Hit =334(12.73%)
crit= 28.96% with firestone
haste=236(7.20%)

I am currently FG/ember ,rotation is DEm emp-->Imm>CoA>Corr>Inci

I seem too be lacking some dps...can only pull off 1.5K in heroics and in raids well...i have trouble keeping it up that much.I need some good pointers rotation wise and gem wise.

-Should i be gemming haste or crit?
-When should i use Dem emp?
-is my rotation way off?

Also i was Chaos bolt spec but i was only pulling off 1.5K dps in raids..and 1K in heroics..unfortunately dont have the stats for that but how much crit should i have for that spec,and any uggestions on the rotations maybe thats my only probleme..

I just want too boost my dps and be able too use chaos bolt (because yes i don't think its enough)..

TY in advance ^_^

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Old 12/29/08, 2:44 AM   #1580
Darkwyng
Von Kaiser
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Eldre'Thalas
Any answer for my question?

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Old 12/29/08, 4:10 AM   #1581
krait
Banned
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Daggerspine
Originally Posted by Aldriana View Post
1) Lockpicking is easy to level, and
2) It's not really endgame content of interest to these forums, so
3) Please do us all a favor and stop talking about it.

Thanks.
Logged in to specifically to say that:

1. You are a bitch.
2. I'm on vacation in Key West and I hate you.
3. You are a bitch.

Thank you.

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Old 12/29/08, 5:19 AM   #1582
jedineo
 
Human Warlock
 
Cenarius
What about this build Warlock Talents

Anyways is going down to meta required for a build like this to work? I was doing ~2700 dps on dummies just using CoA->corruption->immo->SB spams I forgot to see what I was doing with 0/41/30 getting 4500-4700 DPS on 25 man patchwerk

Also is immolate worth using with this ?

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Old 12/29/08, 7:18 AM   #1583
Tidas
Glass Joe
 
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Tauren Warrior
 
Executus
Well right now im at about 200HR and I sustain a stead 3.5k DPS in raids. I also never have a problem with rage generation. Maybe its because I have alot of AP, im not quite sure. But I dont find it so nessicary to go above the yellow cap.. I am also a Tauren. Bo ya..

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Old 12/29/08, 1:09 PM   #1584
slackiepop
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Mage
 
Ghostlands (EU)
The World of Warcraft Armory

id say we're on a similar gear level, although i have a chunk more crit, all my gear is from heroic/badge with a couple of 10man drops (neck, shoulder)

while people are quick to jump on the "gear" bandwagon, i'll go against the grain and say that its skillbased. i dont mean to offend your wife, but check that you're refreshing your living bomb, using your instant pyros and stacking cooldowns when you should, with correct glyphs (reference: elemental shaman rotations thread)

in my first 25 man naxx pug this week (hi im new and its christmas pugs) i put out over 4.3k on patch, which wasn't particularly lucky (before people jump in) as id done a tad over 4k on bosses previously in 10man- unless im lucky all the time which is doubtful since i cant roll above 35 for loot :p

just make sure you're doing everything you should, and check it twice.

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Old 12/29/08, 2:47 PM   #1585
Natetheape
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Korgath
Add-ons

Grid + Hot-Timer + Clique:
I have this box for raid wide heals, mainly when healing dps or single target boss attacks,
I have 4 bound buttons:
Left click: Rejuv
Right click: Nourish
Mouse 4: Swiftmend
Mouse 5: LifeBloom
(i keep x-pearl raid frames when i have to target someone )

Decursive:
it is a must for getting off curses and poisons, please don't raid without it,

DOT-Timer:
I have it tuned for Hots but honestly i don't use it that often because of Hot-timer on Grid,

Quartz:
Now this guy is awesome, it is primaryly a Casting bar mod but has some major bonuses
  • Lag time on casting bar, it will shows you when to stop a heal with lag calculated in,
  • Focus Hots, under the casting bar it shows you the hots on your focus target
  • Target Hots, Shows you the Hots on your target
  • GCD bar, like a casting bar for your GCD

Last edited by Natetheape : 12/29/08 at 3:47 PM.

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Old 12/29/08, 3:03 PM   #1586
kywirelessguy
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Priest
 
Thrall
Edit: Horrible

Last edited by kywirelessguy : 12/29/08 at 3:15 PM.

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Old 12/29/08, 3:15 PM   #1587
kywirelessguy
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Priest
 
Thrall
Originally Posted by Playered View Post
The intention was for useful information about Addons (ie: Clique is good because it lets you x/y/z which saves you time by allowing you to a/b/c faster) to be mentioned, not for people to give their personal thoughts about why their addon is better and all their horrible key bindings.

If you really want to go into that horrible direction please make a new thread to litter instead and if you are unable to make one then really I'm saving you infractions most likely.

I will update the first post in order to curb the stupid.
Sorry for being horrible I guess.

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Old 12/29/08, 3:30 PM   #1588
oresteez
Von Kaiser
 
Undead Warlock
 
Gurubashi
I could be wrong, but I think with the buffs to Immolate and Corruption in the 3.0 patch, then adding immolate to your rotation always comes out to be a DPS boost...(even if miniscule..)

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Old 12/29/08, 3:40 PM   #1589
Taidaisher
Von Kaiser
 
Taidaisher's Avatar
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Stormscale
Thank you all (again) for the amazing amount of information listed.


Here is my current http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormscale&n=Soulsdemise gear/spec wise.

I was wondering a few things.
As you can tell, my gear thus far is from quest rewards, and will probably remain that way until I hit 80. I'm planning on adding 5/5 Dark Conviction and wasn't sure if I should spend my last point to go 4/5 Bladed Armor and Corpse Explosion.
I was wondering on the optimal weapon speed for an Unholy DK?
I have been tracking my DPS while I've been questing, and I've noticed ranges from 800-2000. Mostly, the 800 DPS has been climbing but the mobs die before I have a chance to get any higher. I was wondering if that is normal to what you all are seeing.

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Old 12/29/08, 3:55 PM   #1590
haxx
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Outland (EU)
Would this spec be any good? Points from FA will be moved into mortal shots as the hit becomes higher.

Build

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Old 12/29/08, 4:54 PM   #1591
Feldjaeger
Banned
 
Blood Elf Hunter
 
Burning Legion
This isn't exactly in line with the current topics in this thread but, since I cannot start a thread of my own, I'll ask it here.
1. Do you think Attumen is soloable as a hunter? With an overboard BM spec of course, picking up the dodge, the extra pet talent points, the extra health, etc.
2. How hard does/did Attumen hit(non-crit)?
3. Do you think a 2set T5 and keeping MP up all the time would be enough to down him, even through the curses?

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Old 12/29/08, 5:40 PM   #1592
Eryx
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Death Knight
 
Area 52
Originally Posted by Waterboy View Post
If you spec 51/13/7, and you do it right then you have a talent called Annilation in the frost tree(would link the ability but can't at work ). It makes your obliterates not consume diseases when used. This talent is the main reason why many Blood Knights spend points in frost.
oh. that makes total sense then. ty!

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Old 12/29/08, 7:31 PM   #1593
Silvanoshei
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Sentinels
haha no no no, I lol'd

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Old 12/29/08, 7:36 PM   #1594
jeepinchris
Glass Joe
 
Undead Rogue
 
Burning Legion
hi guys, long time reader - new poster.

so ive finally dropped combat swords for Mutilate and i went on my first test run/Tune up through H nexus and H UK, and i must say, im a little surprised at my DPS so i was hoping to get some advice here. ive run combat swords since MC long ago, and ive always put up very good/high DPS, i took about 6 months off and i really wanted to try something different.

As combat swords, the only difference between my current armory listing and this one was the main hand, i was using either reaper of dark souls or crypt lord's deft blade depending on my mood as i got simlar dps with both. my offhand was either grasscutter, avool's, or one of the 2 daggers currently equipped.

The World of Warcraft Armory

typically in those 2 instances i would put up 2.2k(nexus) and 2.7k(UK), with mutilate i put up 1.8k and 2.1k average, with boss fights peaking at around 200-300 the average dps. now im sure some of this is my getting used to the whole cycle and timing, however im wondering if i have overlooked an imbalance now in my gear and enchants. now, i havent re-gemmed yet, nor have i re-enchanted. i was thinking on dumping some AP to get back to my exp and hit caps, as they are substantially lower than before. i think with what i have read, my hit should be OK in its current rating, perhaps exp is what i need to focus on more... i know my gear isnt total junk but at the same time theres room for improvement, so please dont think im coming here saying "hey, why am i not out dpsing the world!!". looking at the spreadsheet i should be expecting substantially more dps that what i am currently seeing, with combat swords i was almost up to par with what the spreadsheet estimated depending on raid buffs.

any suggestions are welcome, and if you have any questions, please ask. thanks rogues!

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Old 12/29/08, 7:48 PM   #1595
StareAtTheSuN442
Glass Joe
 
Tefri
Blood Elf Hunter
 
Ysera
^ good call.

Thanks guys!

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Old 12/29/08, 9:15 PM   #1596
Archetype
Banned
 
Orc Death Knight
 
Kirin Tor
Originally Posted by Randyll View Post
Keep UB ticking, use DC when it's UB is on. Otherwise, keep UB up. (This is on the front page, too.) UB does more damage, even with the higher RP cost, hence it's a good idea to keep it up whenever possible. The difference is gone in the next patch though - with UB costing 40 RP. The Gargoyle is best used at 100 RP because as it starts draining RP you'll want to have loads of it left so that it doesn't end too early.
Awesome... tyvm

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Old 12/30/08, 1:32 AM   #1597
Talbaz
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Death Knight
 
Kargath
I have notice Mark of Blood never procs, or if it does it only 2 or 3 time during it 20 sec duration when am tanking.

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Old 12/30/08, 2:13 AM   #1598
riceaddictboy
Glass Joe
 
Human Death Knight
 
Korgath
question about upcoming patch and how good this build would fare:
Blood (18 points)

2/2 Butchery
3/3 Subversion
5/5 Bladed Armor
2/2 Two-Handed Weapon Specialization
1/1 Rune Tap
5/5 Dark Conviction

Frost (0 points)

None

Unholy (53 points)

2/2 Vicious Strikes
3/3 Morbidity
2/2 Epidemic
3/3 Virulence
3/3 Ravenous Dead
3/5 Necrosis
1/1 Corpse Explosion
3/3 Blood-Caked Blade
1/1 Shadow of Death
1/1 Summon Gargoyle
5/5 Impurity
2/2 Dirge
3/3 Reaping
1/1 Master of Ghouls
2/2 Unholy Aura
1/2 Night of the Dead
3/3 Crypt Fever
1/1 Bone Shield
3/3 Wandering Plague
3/3 Ebon Plaguebringer
1/1 Scourge Strike
5/5 Rage of Rivendare
1/1 Unholy Blight

------------------------------------------

I was a blood dk for quite some time, but decided to give unholy another shot. I can't seem to "let go" of my rune tap ability - and even though highly situational - it has proven itself useful for that one point. I placed 1 point in corpse explosion for overall aoe dmg increase as i feel that the upcoming patch change would make it a decent ability. And one point in night of the dead for 40% dmg decrease for my pet. 70% would had been nice, but i can't seem to move points around that well in a already bloated tree. I was also curious if the changes in outbreak and 45% increase dmg to plague strike make it a vital talent to invest points in? Or will SS still remain the go to move for dmg?

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Old 12/30/08, 3:19 AM   #1599
Alarius
Von Kaiser
 
Human Paladin
 
Bloodhoof
Originally Posted by Hylo View Post
http://elitistjerks.com/996574-post206.html
How viable is this set compared to what we know one-month later today? And non-JC?

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Old 12/30/08, 3:40 AM   #1600
Soulburn
Glass Joe
 
Orc Rogue
 
Spinebreaker (EU)
I raided with combat spec since Molten Core times and now trying to switch Mutilate, 'cause seems like combat daggers suck in PvE.

With combat spec i have been focusing on hit rating, therefore always used hit gems.

But with Mutilate spec, should i focus on AP gems and pass on hit ?

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