1st post here, been lurking for a bit

Just want to summarize what has been posted and what I have found for 44/27 and 32/39 builds

Generally these 2 specs will out do unholy builds most of the time even with DW users having less gear.

fast/fast is usually better as it can simply proc more KM.

I don't see how using slow/fast to boost PS/BS and FS is worth the extra KM procs fast/fast provides, after the first rotation its just IT spam and a single PS renew DC dumps etc and read below for FS.

Only use FS when you have a KM proc AND HB/IT are on cooldown as this allows for another KM proc before the next HB is up OR when there is simply no KM. Otherwise IT for KM procs (only when HB has just been on cooldown) and DC for RP dump.

During a trash aoe pull your HB should be at 100% crit rate, KM should always be up before your next HB. Even for single target fights it should be close to 100%

It is good to prioritize HB on the first rotation and use BB and RP dumps to wait a bit for a KM proc and when it has around 2-3sec left on cooldown and KM is up, don't waste it on a IT or FS.

So basically if KM is up you should ONLY use it on HB UNLESS HB has just been on cooldown AND IT is ALSO on cooldown and in this case use FS.

You WILL be taking aggro if your tank is bad and/or undergeared after a PS>IT>PEST>KM'd HB. So use BB once or twice before HB to let tank get some aggro.

During heroic boss fights where you know the ghoul and garg will stay alive it is not hard to pull 3-3.2k dps with rep swords and some heroics gear.

Wyrmrest rep swords are great for starters and will allow for everything I noted above, you won't need to upgrade till naxx.

You should be using FC and Cinder/Razor for the other weapon, whatever suits you I personally use cinder for the extra HB and IT boost and Cinder seems to proc a lot.

I recommend all DW builds use [Meteorite Whetstone]

If you have low expertise this can be useful [Crusader's Locket]

My hit rating is around 330-360 depending on how I feel

I personally favor 44/27 atm because GoG and more options with FS is great and the ghoul like we all know is too squishy. Maybe I will go 32/39 with NotD next patch for pet survivability.

Best thing about DW is that when you go on a pug and people ask for your spec and you say 'DW Frost' they go 'isn't that for tanking?' and then you proceed to destroy dps

Sorry for the bad layout and if its hard to understand, I rarely post on forums

Hi,

im a first time poster to EJ and would first like to say hi

Currently i am specced unholy:

http://http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=jfVMVZZfM0htckxcsMfsut

My stats unbuffed are:
3600 AP
9.7% Hit
6% Expertise
27% Crit

I have read on the forums that the hit cap is 8%, so i should lower that.
About the expertise cap i have read different things. Some say 5.25% other 5.5% and others say 6%. So i was wondering what i should aim for.

Another thing i was wondering about, atm i have 3 points in desecration, should i remove those points and fill out dirge and my 1 remaining point in virulence?

Any help would be really welcome.

THNX in advance

I recall my deep wounds ticking for 9k's on Thaddius Last week (25man).

in january when raid will restart i want to try Zerker MH and 65 ap on OH, having 60% uptime from MH is really good, but i think 65 ap 100% uptime is better than zerker 30-40% uptime. if someone can try both on end game gear(for now) will be helpful for me tnx

My guild's experience is the same as Lucinde's.

What do you guys think of this for a build next patch for both PvE and PvP.

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?sham...h=150712070605

Unrelenting Storms going to 12% and people getting more and more geared every week, I don't think convection will be useful at all in PvE.
Missing 2 points from Elemental Weapons isn't ideal but i think most people will still manage without 50 spell power.

I know its not ideal for super high arena players or min max PvE players, but i don't see myself needing to respec at all after 3.08

Just going to vent here to see if anyone else feels the same way.

Right now unholy owns the monopoly of 2h dps. No other 2h dps spec can touch unholy dps. Suprisingly this spec is going to get buffed in the patch with the ghoul glyph adding yet more percent of your strength to the ghoul. As well as night of the dead being buffed for more consistant ghoul uptime.

I don't know about you guys but i rolled thsi class because of the extreme flexibility it promised and the buffs it could bring. If any one was missing i could switch my spec and bring the buff the raid was missing at a cost of plus or minus 300 dps.

I can easily pull 4k+ in raids as unholy 2h spec. If i go blood, not only do i have to work twice as hard and keep an extremely tight rotation, but i come out with far less dps while doing more work. And frost...

Frost is so absurd right now. Im simply stunned that a PS'less rotation is working best. While it might work, to me that just feels clunky and downright bad design.

Then we have DW builds. Right now the DW builds are doing the most dps. Blizzard said they didn't want to promote DW builds because too many dk's would go DW instead of 2h. I dont understand this logic. They base everything around making players make a choice. So why not just let them choose? Why halfass things and make people go hybrid spec just to make DW work.

I think the Bullet needs to be bit and they just need to make frost the DW build.

With the patch looming, to me i see unholy as our beastmaster pve spec, Blood tanking with a last stand lasting 30 seconds with 50 percent more healing on a one minute cooldown, that will become the tank spec as i honestly see no way that spec can ever die with good healers. (By good healers i mean our holy paladin who can solo heal 10 man sapphiron.)

GC even admitted that he is suprised dk's havent needed more tweaks up to this point but the tweaks are coming. How long must we wait though? This patch is taking forever to come out, obviously because of holidays, but the next content patch = a raid dungeon and we already know how long those take to come out. We can bank on four months of waiting.

I dunno, im just not impressed at the current standing of our class. Its very unpolished and needs a ton of work.

End rant

Thank you very much nathan!

Maybe it seems that way because the Death Knight class has been live for, oh, let's call it two months. TWO MONTHS. How many years of polish did it take the Paladin to get as solid as it is now? Ok, how about Warlock and Druid (current iteration of the Warlock class nonwithstanding)?

With the extremely short lifetime of the class, I think Blizzard is doing an admirable job; none of the talent trees are completely useless and, after this upcoming patch, all three will be able to tank. It's a great first effort which will, hopefully, be followed up by the same continued attention and tweaking that most of the other classes have gotten.

Ah, I didn't realize Omen was already scaling threat displays in that manner. Thanks for the clarification.

Oh hello. You basically just blew all the theorycrafting out of the water by pumping 6559 DPS in to Patchwork with uncapped expertise and hit (and 24% unbuffed crit). Did the stars allign for you on this fight or are you constantly seeing this kind of output?

I guess we need to revamp that stat table a bit, judging Ren's DPS. AP>*?

Could anyone link a good pve/raid resto spec plz :P

I keep hearing about this 32/39 build. Has anyone tried it before? Opinions? How well would it perform in PVE/PVP?

WorldofWarcraft.com -> Info -> Classes -> Death Knight -> Talent Calculator

I have been lucky in naxx:

I just got Angry Dread

I also have Webbed Death

I also have Maexxna's Femur

I want to use Dread and Webbed Death.

My question is how to best spec for them.

I have tried the spreadsheet and it doesn't answer my question.

Should I spec with Mace Specialization or Close Quarters?

Does anyone know of a link to a spec which would work with these?

I sure would appreciate any help

Thanks

Naknek

We do this (with inside / outside calls). We didn't consider it until afterwards, but using flares could simplify this even further. Drop two flares in your primary safe zones and call a color. DPS can run to a color with minimal thinking allowing them to further focus on their rotations.

Unrelated to strategy, was anyone else disappointed with these encounters still? Granted they were much more difficult than any of the other encounters so far in Wrath, but we still spent much less time (30 pulls for 25-man, ~65 for 10 man) than anything in Burning Crusade going back as far as SSC. Hell, we didn't even understand how Twilight Torment worked until we began attempts on the 10-man version after we had cleared the encounter in 25-man. Not that it's fun banging your head against content for months on end, but post-nerf, pre-3.0 M'uru was probably the most fun I've had raiding and these encounters didn't even come close :\

Yeah sorry i should have said "after the patch"

I came up with THIS. Wasn't sure wether to take subversion or DRM adn teh general consensus seems to say that Spell deflection isn't much use (unless i've got my wires crossed). Also i figure bloodworms would last as long as a month in a blow torch in boss fights. Am i far off?

Yeah it's only on damage delt isn't it? I'd stick it on the boss right at teh beggining of a fight mebby whilst healers are getting in position. Plus the extra healing never hurts really ^_^

I guess its a a "wait ad see whats in Uladar" talent.

Yeah thats kinda why i asked ^_^ I'm confused as to which is best for when

Fairy nuff i shall cast it aside! *casts aside Virulence* Ha!
Certainly the most surreal answer I've had to that one

EXCELLENT!

Depends on whether they know how to maximize their DPS or not. Think about it, and the right thing to do will be obvious.

I really need to help this guy get his DPS up.
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Anyone got any tips?

Thanks for the input everyone. With all the changes (nerfs) to alch in LK, I'm considering dropping alch from my rogue and picking up mining, and then dropping insc. on the priest and leveling JC. I think a Ench/JC main and a herb/mining alt would be a great setup for a steady income.

I am very interested to see how the availability of weapons in future raids and pvp that we will be able to use. In the past it has always seemed like we could choose one of three or four decent weapons through out the entire game.