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Old 11/19/09, 6:31 AM   #9811
Tribat
Glass Joe
 
Troll Mage
 
Dragonmaw
Originally Posted by shaak View Post
thankyou, is there anyway to get around the partial resists?
short answer: no

long answer: noooooooooooooo

Originally Posted by Ammar View Post
Probably has been asked before at some point, but has someone investigates the details of cooldown stacking? I have AP, IV and Talisman of Resurgence available to me and they all have different cooldowns. Is it advisable to stack them all together or use them each when they become available? This is assuming no moments where the boss takes extra damage like Icehowl after crashing into the wall.

I pondered this question for a long time. I found that waiting until IV is off of CD to use your go crazy macro is usually best. I'll lay out what I do for each fight. (this is for heroic)

Beasts: Burn them all with MI at the start of the fight. Then burn them all again when we BL at the first Icehowl Stun.

Jaraxxus: Burn them on the first portal. Use the macro again even though IV is on CD for the second portal. Then use the full macro again for the third portal.

Faction champs: I use them whenever IV is off of CD.

Twins: I save my macro for an opposite shield b/c we don't use the door strat.

Anub: *FFB

Anyways, some people say that using each cd as soon as it's available is a dps increase over waiting for IV, but I still prefer to use the macro to it's full extent situationally. That is, unless the boss is at 10% or whatever and only AP is up then I use it anyways.

Last edited by Tribat : 11/19/09 at 6:37 AM.

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Old 11/19/09, 6:49 AM   #9812
magiclol
 
Audition
Blood Elf Rogue
 
Свежеватель душ
Hello rogue m8s =)

I have an question, i gemmed my set with agi full, and try at the spreadsheet out what happens if i gem arp.

The end was about "200dps" more. So i think its not really worth to gem arp or ? Because im very free to spec mutilate.

(im always raiding as mutilate only at anubarak switichng combat with mace/dagger)

(have 4t9,45 pieces and the grim trinket)

What do you think about this ? Or is as t9,45 the mutilate specc worse and i should go arp and mainspecc combat with mace/dagger ?

:// Here my char : The World of Warcraft Armory



PS: and to get enough arp is with my gear and grim and mace specc really easy goin. But to play the eviscaret only specc is lame tbh and i like to play mutilate.

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Old 11/19/09, 9:30 AM   #9813
loganray
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Death Knight
 
Draka
Good morning. I had a question about DW tanking. There has not been much activity in here recently and I was wondering if people still consider DW tanking to be viable for end game raiding at all.

This is my armory
The World of Warcraft Armory

For weapon I have 2 heroic Frost Blade Hatchets which I can use or a Burnished Quel'Serrar.

Currently I am tanking 2h blood and clear all lockouts every week. 25 and 10 man on ToC normal and heroic with the exception of 25 man H Anub. Is DW tanking viable for this content? For my gear and weapons? Will have have less TPS and is mitigation or avoidance any better in the DW spec? And lastly if you are successfully DW tnkaig end game which spec are you using? Is the one on the front page still viable as is?

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Old 11/19/09, 11:02 AM   #9814
Klaud
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Zenedar (EU)
Thanks alot Heavenly works like a charm

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Old 11/19/09, 11:18 AM   #9815
Eruen
Glass Joe
 
Orc Death Knight
 
Destromath (EU)
@consider

Stat Weight Strength 3.05
is Fallen Crusader included ?

thanks for the answer

Last edited by Eruen : 11/19/09 at 11:29 AM.

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Old 11/19/09, 12:57 PM   #9816
nawbambam
 
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Troll Hunter
 
Wildhammer (EU)
I am 6 hast from cap and i dont see any dps change when i regem to get caped, arent i suppose to get one exstra steady shot in when the global cooldown is down to 1,5 sec ?

pls enlighten me :-)

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Old 11/19/09, 1:26 PM   #9817
Choofy
 
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Orc Hunter
 
Thaurissan
Hey, this is my first post here.. Just wondering what a macro would be for a Silencing shot mouse over? It wouldn't be something like /Cast Silencing Shot [Target=Mouseover]; would it?

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Old 11/19/09, 1:27 PM   #9818
irongnome
Glass Joe
 
Human Death Knight
 
Dragonmaw
normalization in effect?

i am 100% confused as to what normalization is doing to my strikes.

from both anecdotal evidence, personal bias, and extensive testing; a slow weapon is better than a fast one. However recently (as in the past few hours) i came upon the fact that DK strikes have their weapon damage coefficient normalized in some manner or other. does anyone here have a full grasp on how exactly that works?

eg. (with made up numbers)
with normalization a obliterate should do 2500 if im using a 1.5 speed weapon or a 2.8 speed weapon and the normalization is at 2.4 weapon speed.
without normalization an obliterate should do 1562.5 with a 1.5 speed and 2916.67 with a 2.8 speed weapon.

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Old 11/19/09, 1:35 PM   #9819
Jadeilicious
 
Undead Mage
 
Blackrock
Hey everyone. I have a question as I am becoming increasingly frustrated. I am newly specced into Arcane as Fire has begining to suck for me. Here is a link to my armory. The World of Warcraft Armory

I have been using the typical ABx4 until MB procs and rinse and repeat. Perhaps I am not using my cool downs appropriately? IV and AP I've been using at the beginning of the fight, followed by my trinket "Fetish of Volatile Power" and eventually I'll use PM after the 4th AB if MB procs. I'm not sure if this rotation is making me fail, but my dps is less than stellar. I use magealert, scorchio2, and satrina as addons to help me with knowing when my stuff procs.

My DPS on dummies in org is crap. I'm hoping someone can give me some friendly advice. Also, I have 3 trophies in my bags plus T9.5 chest piece. Should I buy the badge trinket with +128 Int. with the Use of Increased SP?

Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

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Old 11/19/09, 1:36 PM   #9820
Jadeilicious
 
Undead Mage
 
Blackrock
For some reason it did not link to my character directly, I'm Pyroprincess in the guild Juice. Thanks!

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Old 11/19/09, 1:49 PM   #9821
Krogue
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Echo Isles
Maybe a dumb question but I couldn't find it with a " quote on quote" search

But if I check off "use dp on Oh" option in the settings menu, would it assume I would use wound instead?

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Old 11/19/09, 2:00 PM   #9822
pocketmage
Von Kaiser
 
Human Priest
 
Kilrogg
At first glance, you are way over hit cap for Arcane. The cap is 17%, you have 6% from talents, so at most you will need 11%. Additionally, the presence of a moonkin or a SP gives another 3%, so you could need as little as 8% depending on your raid makeup.

It's a little hard to give DPS advise without seeing a log or dmg break down.

When you mentioned using specials, are you macroing them all together or individually using them? Cooldown stacking involves using everything you got all at once for maximum effect.

Also Presence of Mind does not effect Arcane Missiles or any other channel spell (like Blizzard). Macro it to Arcane Blast and use it while you are moving or to speed up stacking up your AB debuff if it's a tank and spank.

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Old 11/19/09, 2:00 PM   #9823
Lennies
Glass Joe
 
Human Mage
 
<eZs>
Thunderhorn
Your gear is heavily weighted towards spell crit which isn't as useful to Arcane mage. I would suggest loading up Rawr with your gear choices and letting it do the work.

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Old 11/19/09, 2:08 PM   #9824
Endario
Glass Joe
 
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Gnome Mage
 
Proudmoore
Originally Posted by Jadeilicious View Post
Hey everyone. I have a question as I am becoming increasingly frustrated. I am newly specced into Arcane as Fire has begining to suck for me. Here is a link to my armory. The World of Warcraft Armory

I have been using the typical ABx4 until MB procs and rinse and repeat. Perhaps I am not using my cool downs appropriately? IV and AP I've been using at the beginning of the fight, followed by my trinket "Fetish of Volatile Power" and eventually I'll use PM after the 4th AB if MB procs. I'm not sure if this rotation is making me fail, but my dps is less than stellar. I use magealert, scorchio2, and satrina as addons to help me with knowing when my stuff procs.

My DPS on dummies in org is crap. I'm hoping someone can give me some friendly advice. Also, I have 3 trophies in my bags plus T9.5 chest piece. Should I buy the badge trinket with +128 Int. with the Use of Increased SP?

Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
Just a few quick notes off the top:

- Haste is of much greater value for Arcane than Crit. 30-35% crit self buffed is more than sufficient, and you've gone well past that.
- You can safely drop about 100 hit: with proper raid buffs, you can drop even more.
- Take the T9.5 shoulders and gloves over the robe. Again, haste > crit.
- Unless you have someone putting up a slow debuff on the target dummy, Torment the Weak will not be triggered while testing. This is a sizable DPS boost that will always be up in a raid, so take this into account while smacking the dummy.
- Go ahead and grab the Talisman of Resurgance with Emblems. It's one of the best trinkets out there for Arcane right now.

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Old 11/19/09, 2:11 PM   #9825
Naughton
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Hyjal
Do we have an idea on how this will affect Stat values yet for builds. I assume haste will go up, but will it starting being a stat to stack.

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