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Old 12/08/09, 9:17 AM   #10306
gwaust
Glass Joe
 
Troll Hunter
 
Turalyon
With the change to the Icy Touch glyph will we still want to use it for the additional dps on the DOT portion or go with another major glyph?

NEW: Glyph of Icy Touch: Instead of granting additional runic power, this glyph now causes Frost Fever to deal 20% additional damage.

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Old 12/08/09, 9:21 AM   #10307
Doomswing
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doom
Orc Death Knight
 
Non-US/EU Server
Originally Posted by gwaust View Post
With the change to the Icy Touch glyph will we still want to use it for the additional dps on the DOT portion or go with another major glyph?

NEW: Glyph of Icy Touch: Instead of granting additional runic power, this glyph now causes Frost Fever to deal 20% additional damage.
Yes 20% is alot.

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Old 12/08/09, 9:28 AM   #10308
Hanodal
 
Undead Rogue
 
Darkmoon Faire (EU)
Arcane Haste/SP ratio

Hello.

I'm a fairly new arcane mage and i have 1 thing that is dodging me here in the forums:

What is exactly the point where haste becomes more valuable than SP?

I don't need to provide a number, just the math equations i need to figure it out and i'll do it by myself.

Thanks a lot for your help in advance

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Old 12/08/09, 9:39 AM   #10309
Doomswing
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doom
Orc Death Knight
 
Non-US/EU Server
What is the hit cap anyway, is it 8% from gear?

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Old 12/08/09, 10:00 AM   #10310
Neil.Reynolds
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Warlock
 
Aerie Peak
Delete. I confused spell hit with melee hit on the profile page

Last edited by Neil.Reynolds : 12/08/09 at 11:25 AM.

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Old 12/08/09, 10:10 AM   #10311
Phara
Piston Honda
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Tarren Mill (EU)
Originally Posted by Bronis View Post
Will this mace be replaceable come ICC? Is it worth finishing the second half of one mace and possibly building a third one for ICC or would it be a complete waste of possible progression time?
Complete waste of time.

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Old 12/08/09, 10:27 AM   #10312
Erothan
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Paladin
 
Windrunner
Not.

Last edited by Erothan : 12/09/09 at 8:44 PM. Reason: huh?

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Old 12/08/09, 11:05 AM   #10313
Cruciata
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Shu'halo
Originally Posted by Zurm View Post
No, 2pc T10 is not enough to make ArP better than haste. It's still going to be our worst "green" stat, but it's better than nothing. I expect we'll have a piece or two with ArP in our BiS set, because it's on a lot of ICC gear and Blizzard will itemize for the majority (Warriors and DKs) before the minority.

I see, thank you very much.

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Old 12/08/09, 11:11 AM   #10314
Kurg
Von Kaiser
 
Draenei Death Knight
 
Greymane
IMO, improved execute is easily one of the most useless talents in the fury tree. I rarely get to use execute more than 6-8 times on any given fight. So spending 2 points to save at best 40 rage per fight is a waste. Secondly, over my last 4 raids my executes have crit on average 38% of the time........far lower than any other ability. I sit at 54% crit raid buffed, and every other ability crits +50% of the time. Both slam and HS hit harder than execute does (again, for me), and considering that HS crits ~60% of the time the rage cost is far lower than execute. So sub 20% I continue my normal rotation...spamming HS the entire time and using every BS proc. I still use execute rage permitting, but it is definitely my lowest priority. Granted my low execute crit% could just be really bad RNG, but even if this were the case it still crits for less than HS. I will admit the glyph is pretty decent, but taking up a glyph spot for an ability that is just such a minor component of overall damage is silly.

On another note, I do agree that the T10 4-piece could end up being one of the best we have seen. Fitting 2 slam procs into 2 seconds is going to a significant DPS increase if used intelligently. Even though the proc duration has been increased I think these decreased GCD slams may need to be moved up in priority, though I haven't done any math on this yet.

Last edited by Kurg : 12/08/09 at 11:26 AM.

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Old 12/08/09, 11:11 AM   #10315
viveye
Glass Joe
 
Human Warrior
 
Cairne
Originally Posted by Bersi View Post
I agree that even with good gear there are short periods when we cant spamm HS in order to keep our BT/WW rotation but nevertheless after 3-4h raiding my forefinger feels kind of numb due to almost permanent HS key spamming. I also play an Wlock/Mage and none of them has this annoying 'use me each gcd' skill. I really hope that Blizz changes this mechanik in Catalysm to something more user friendly. Personallly I would like to have some kind of Hero Mode where higher dmg would be linked to higher rage burn like shaa wrote.
I have found the easiest way to relieve my finger from feeling the negative effects of frequently spamming my heroic strike key is to bind heroic strike to mouse wheel up or down.

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Old 12/08/09, 11:18 AM   #10316
Spotnick
Von Kaiser
 
Pandaren Monk
 
Lightning's Blade
Please delete this message.

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Old 12/08/09, 12:07 PM   #10317
Zenitspb
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Rogue
 
Подземье (EU)
I don't have high ilvl fast dagger for my muti spec, will 245 ilvl 1.8 dagger be better for OH than 232 ilvl 1.4 dagger?

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Old 12/08/09, 12:09 PM   #10318
cerin616
Glass Joe
 
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Night Elf Rogue
 
Laughing Skull
So lets talk poisons in combat... With the addition to Deadly Poison causing additional procs for mainhand poisons, I think combat is looking at Instant poison on its MH. Rogues who stack armor pen out of its ass might want to look into taking Improved poisons a few points and leaving something behind in relentless strikes. But rogues without high armor pen and rupturless cycles may look into Vile Poisons and using envenom over eviscerate. Combat may turn into a SnD,Rupture,envenom or even just SnD envenom rotation. Either that or they can keep it the same and try it for the best, wounding poisons can still get the extra procs from deadly poison too.

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Old 12/08/09, 12:14 PM   #10319
Gippal
Glass Joe
 
Worgen Rogue
 
Sentinels
Originally Posted by Zenitspb View Post
I don't have high ilvl fast dagger for my muti spec, will 245 ilvl 1.8 dagger be better for OH than 232 ilvl 1.4 dagger?
My inclination is no, but you'd have to spreadsheet it with your own gear to confirm.

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Old 12/08/09, 12:32 PM   #10320
Treyarch
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Fenris
I may get an infraction for this, but I searched the thread, tried to find it, and could not. How would you model t7 2+4pc set bonuses in the new sheets? It goes t10, t8, t9. I'd like to have them, as I am still in T7 and would like to see what good upgrades are compared to my gear level, even if this just means hacking in static ep values or some such.

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