So just a few comments about what my thoughts are in ICC and what I have been reading in the posts here.

1) I used to be Frost tank in Ulduar and switched to Blood when ToC came out. I LOVE blood. However, with the saurfang fight and needing more damage reduction I was considering Frost again, atleast until I get some 251 and 264 gear.

IMO all gear being equal you will take more damage in blood but you heal yourself for a ridiculous amount. Last week while MT Marrowgar the second most healing done spell to me was blood strike with 169k effective healing (426k total). This included disc shields as well. I like stacking a bit more stam than I otherwise would and just keep my rotation smooth with the 8k heals helping a ton (note: this also increases threat).

There is no doubt you will take less damage per hit as Frost. This really only comes into play with the Saurfang fight though. Since we 1 shot him as a guild this week (25), I feel we are fine with me being blood.

2) Thank god for hit gear again! Makes our lives easier.

3) And this is important!!! WTF is up with the 2 set bonus?!?!? I want to kill blizzard. We need to speak out about this as DKs. There is no reason we should need that increase if this really is an Endgame Raiding thread. I never use DnD for threat on raid bosses, it's a waste of runes.

4) Because of #3 above, I have been trying to compare Tier gear vs regular 264 gear for now. IMO Tier gear is a waste unless you are sitting on tons of DKP and are able to fight against THREE other classes (rather than 2 that most have) to get your tokens. I just don't see this happening in my Druid heavy guild with ~ 30 core raiders. I am opting out of Tier gear all together and probably just getting the 264 gear that comes out of 25 ICC. I still need to run the number to make sure i get to my hit and expertise levels but from quickly looking it will be easier for me as a tank to gather the regular pieces and abandon tokens all together.

** What are the chances blizzard stops sucking and changes the 2 set bonus??**

Those are my thoughts for now. Current wow-heroes gear score around 2800. Unbuffed stats: 53%+ dodge and parry, ~27k armor, and ~ 35.6k health.

The Tier 9 2 piece is decent for Blood (5% more damage on your main heart strike) to get more threat. The the 4 piece T10 is a nice cooldown (Blood tap makes you take less damage).

Regarding gear, I am pretty sure the 264 crafted bonus Armor pieces are the best you can find in normal and perhaps heroic modes. However, getting all that saroite is a pricey task. The set pieces may not have the best bonuses, but they are still itemized very well.

What should the new enhancement rotation be?(not in EnhSim) I'm currently using
MW5_LB->FS if not on boss -> ES_SS -> SS -> ES -> MT -> LS -> LL -> FN

Anyone have updated lootrank numbers for 3.3?

It really depends on what kind of fight it is, usually I just keep spamming until I get a proc because I have an innervate bot, but in your case you might want to bite the bullet and use arcane barrage after 6 or 7 or you might run dry. Most fights don't last long enough to run you OOM anyways with short cool down on evocation so keep spamming and offer sexual favors to your feral druids for innervates.

No; do not use Arcane Barrage. Use (slow) Arcane Missiles to clear the stack if you don't have a proc at 4 stacks and need to conserve mana.

I have been running arms and now since the patches have come out with the Armour penitration changes i am lost and am thinking about going to fury. what are the stats im looking for and what caps do i need to worry about and what are there numbers?

so here is what i'm wondering, what is the optimal gearing path for unholy?

go for 2pt10 first?
get the Sigil of the Hanged Man?

currently i have the 245 2pt9, the 251 shoulders, and the 245 dps sigil.

Upgrade paths depend entirely on what you're wearing currently. I'd suggest using something like rawr to check your current gear and give you the answer.

So where are the t10 BIS lists? Most of the gear is available on MMO Champion.

Have you read the front page? The new sigil isn't much of an upgrade from Virulence. Two pieces of Tier 10 is a way better investment first but then it's also a lot more badges.