Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 730

kanaus · 12/22/09, 9:59 PM

SO i just got nibelung but i currently have the 258 anub staff ahould i use it or the anub staff??

Zalthor · 12/22/09, 10:03 PM

Aldriana, I want to thank you for all the hard work you have put into the new mut spreadsheet, but I'm stuck on something due to the Whisphering Fanged Skull not being in there. I have the War Token, but I don't know whether to use the Mark of Supremacy, DMC:G, or the Whisphering Fanged Skull as my 2nd trinket. Ideas anyone?

Thaela · 12/22/09, 10:30 PM

Roughly,

Originally Posted by Thaela

I've implemented the Whispering Fanged Skull and this is what I get for my gear levels (obviously stats will change ep values for you, but this will at least give you an idea of where they sit):

HWT = 625
DV (heroic) = 602
WFS = 574
DV = 533

I'd be hard pressed to see how those other trinkets came close to WFS in any normal circumstance.

Zalthor · 12/22/09, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by Thaela

Roughly,

I'd be hard pressed to see how those other trinkets came close to WFS in any normal circumstance.

I assumed he left it out due to its effect on the crit cap. Which is probably why I thought the Mark of Supremacy might be better. I guess I didn't think about it long enough.

Kuzz · 12/22/09, 11:45 PM

I want to say sorry ahead of time if this has been brought up.......... I just got a 2nd Heartpierce as im the only Mut rogue in my guild and just took it for free so it didnt get DE. Is there any situation where I would want to Duel these? I know on boss fights it would be a huge dps loss over a 1.4 but can this proc even stack? If Im pvping or even using it trash would it be worth it or is it just a waste of time? Thanks in advance

If it can duel proc seems to me it might be a nice FOK/trash dagger

Thanks again and once again sorry if this has been asked

Tribat · 12/23/09, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by Testarossa

Hello, right now I'm in a position where I'm being asked by a healer class officer to swap out my Talisman of Resurgence for my old Abyssal Rune.

My current trinkets are the non-heroic version of Muradin's Spyglass and the Talisman of Resurgence.

I've tried using the Abyssal Rune again but I've found that I can't last the last few seconds need to pop another gem and arcane torrent. My CDs on burst were disorganized as well.

Should I spend more time on it or is Rawr right in telling me to keep my current set of trinkets?

Thanks!

-BTW, hello Vykromod. This is Feito from BB.

Tell your healing class officer to mind his own business. Talisman of Resurgence is an upgrade from Abyssal Rune in almost every situation. It all depends on what rawr says. For me, Talisman is a 65 dps upgrade from Abyssal. Tell him to worry about his healers and let the mages figure out what gear is best for them. The caveat is if you are an engy, it may be better to go with Abyssal since you can't have 2 use procs at the same time.

groovinZhou · 12/23/09, 12:25 AM

Hi, if i can ask question, is it worthed to replace my Darkmoon Card: Greatness with Herkuml War Token? My other trinket is: Whispering Fanged Skull

jumanji · 12/23/09, 12:35 AM

I have just hit 80 a couple of days ago and was trying out Arcane. I've a few question of doubts, and would be please for them to be answered!

I'm pretty much at around 18k mana self buff with AI. I seen videos of basic rotation such as AB spam until Mbar proc, thing is when I'm down on luck, Mbar just wouldn't want to proc, therefore, my mana is literally drain to half lol.

What is an ideal mana-friendly rotation for a fresh 80 mage?

Phearox · 12/23/09, 12:40 AM

amped · 12/23/09, 1:07 AM

Originally Posted by kanaus

SO i just got nibelung but i currently have the 258 anub staff ahould i use it or the anub staff??

I prefer Suffering's End over Nibelung because it has spirit + crit, the procrate on nibelung is only 1%, I rarely ever have a val'kyr up on my mage (who has it).

EDIT: Meant Sufferance the staff, not the mace ^_^

Cartesian · 12/23/09, 1:27 AM

One the of key challenges of playing Arcane well is being able to estimate when you can afford spamming AB beyond the fourth to fish for Missile Barrage proc, and when you have to clear the stacks to save mana. If you are running low on mana, just cast Arcane Missiles to clear the AB stacks. If you don't want to think about it, you could AM after 4 AB stacks regardless of whether MB has procced, but it is definitely not optimal playstyle even for poorly geared Arcane mages.

Saigone · 12/23/09, 4:36 AM

Hi all:

I've just completed the Darkmoon Card: Greatness set. I'm a pretty casual player these days, so I'll mainly be doing heroics and 10 mans with a few old friends from the hardcore days. I intend on playing holy.

Currently using a Spirit world glass and a talisman of resurgence.

In your opinions, should I hand in the card and use the trinket, or pimp it and buy the rather sexy crafted bracers with the proceeds.

Any opinions are appreciated.

Meggriffin · 12/23/09, 4:50 AM

Hello Rogues!

I have a question about Weapons Enchants and Weapon Swap to grant a enchant proc.

What do u think about weapon swap to grant a Black Magic proc ?
At the moment i am using Mongoose on both my daggers but i was also thinking if i should change one of that for Black Magic

I didnt find any info about this in spreedsheet so i am asking if BM is a useless enchant, or just inferior to Mongoose/Berserkering?

Incetardis · 12/23/09, 4:55 AM

Originally Posted by Meggriffin

Hello Rogues!

I have a question about Weapons Enchants and Weapon Swap to grant a enchant proc.

What do u think about weapon swap to grant a Black Magic proc ?
At the moment i am using Mongoose on both my daggers but i was also thinking if i should change one of that for Black Magic

I didnt find any info about this in spreedsheet so i am asking if BM is a useless enchant, or just inferior to Mongoose/Berserkering?

Black Magic only procs on spells, and poisons are no longer considered spells as of a few patches ago.

kozhâa · 12/23/09, 5:49 AM

Hi, sorry if my english is bad i'm french,
i have a question, Is the arcane barrage important? I have any problems with my mana in raid (31k full buff) I spam AB and use AM when MB proc. I prefer take 3 points in incanter's absorption because there are many damages on the raid in many fight and the discipline priest (with legendary mass) make some shields and that increase my spell. Is it a good solution?

maybe my trinket talisman of resurgence help me for my mana, en if i change it i must use arcane barrage in my cycle