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Old 12/24/09, 5:44 PM   #11026
kumba
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Blood Elf Rogue
 
Lethon
Ok so i got a few questions about the new assasination stuff.. its pretty much all about haste now right? well would the 232 hat that drops in h FOS be better then the 245 hat in ony? The one in fos gives a bunch of haste and the one in ony gives armor pen and i think armor pen is for combat right? I dont have the gear names or anything just hope u guys know what im talking about.. And what fights are mute rogues good for and what's combat good for? (dont really care for what boss names just want to know what kind of fights)

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Old 12/24/09, 5:58 PM   #11027
kumba
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Blood Elf Rogue
 
Lethon
ok sorry about what i asked i read up on it and found it out..

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Old 12/24/09, 6:08 PM   #11028
kumba
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Blood Elf Rogue
 
Lethon
Only question i have is, the forum said read before posting said stack ap/haste, so should i stack all ap+haste or just stack all 40+ap and put ap+haste in the yellow sockets

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Old 12/24/09, 6:12 PM   #11029
kumba
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Blood Elf Rogue
 
Lethon
I read the forum read before posting and it said for mute spec rogues u should stack ap/haste.. So should i stack all ap/haste, or all ap and ap/haste in the yellow sockets...

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Old 12/24/09, 6:29 PM   #11030
crunchyblack
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Undead Warlock
 
Mug'thol
Very insightful post. Thank you very much. I appologize for not coming up with those numbers myself, math is not my strong-suit. I look forward to your concrete values.

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Old 12/24/09, 6:31 PM   #11031
robfang
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Orc Rogue
 
The Venture Co (EU)
It depends on your gear. You might even want to put haste in all yellow sockets and put AP/Haste in red sockets for some gear configurations. You need to check a spreadsheet to see it for your gear.

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Old 12/24/09, 6:59 PM   #11032
kumba
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Blood Elf Rogue
 
Lethon
Originally Posted by robfang View Post
It depends on your gear. You might even want to put haste in all yellow sockets and put AP/Haste in red sockets for some gear configurations. You need to check a spreadsheet to see it for your gear.
alright ive never used one of those so i guess i'll figure it out

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Old 12/24/09, 7:08 PM   #11033
irisli
 
Tauren Druid
 
Illidan
i have a question, anyone know is that worth to break 4T9 bouns for 2T10 bouns?

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Old 12/24/09, 7:20 PM   #11034
impatigo
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Orc Rogue
 
Blackrock
Originally Posted by kumba View Post
Only question i have is, the forum said read before posting said stack ap/haste, so should i stack all ap+haste or just stack all 40+ap and put ap+haste in the yellow sockets

Review and read this post: http://elitistjerks.com/f78/t39136-c...updated_3_3_a/ In it, you will find the spreadsheet which will tell you the optimal setup for your character.

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Old 12/24/09, 7:36 PM   #11035
fslslayer
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Stonemaul
...

Last edited by fslslayer : 12/25/09 at 2:20 PM.

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Old 12/24/09, 8:24 PM   #11036
Seluna
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Gorgonnash (EU)
First Page HEP Values:
Default Values
Spell Power 1.0
Mp5 1.0
Intellect 0.6
Haste rating 1.5
Crit rating 0.8

Arcanum of Burning Mysteries= 30 HEP + 16 -> 46
Arcanum of Blissful Mending= 30HEP + 10 -> 40

Therefore the answer is: Because the value is better.

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Old 12/24/09, 8:25 PM   #11037
Coogz
 
Goblin Warlock
 
Illidan
Originally Posted by turturin View Post
You're not using corruption or immolate in your Demo rotation?
HI TURT! I remember you from revenant way back when. Haste cap effects instant casts? And yeah I completely forgot to include immolate since I was mainly referring to sub 35% when you drop immolate from your rotation.

Originally Posted by ultrajustin View Post
Take your stat weights by the average benefit of black magic (62.5 haste avg in the sims). The recommended setups are on page1 as you probably know, and questions/sims about black magic have already been answered in this thread several times.
Awesome! could you point me in the right direction? Thanks!

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Old 12/24/09, 10:27 PM   #11038
Gurrtrak
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Orc Warrior
 
Ysondre (EU)
You should never apologize for being late Landsoul
You give so much effort to make things simplier to us, that i think you'd be blessed by the divine hand of Thrall/Wrynn or whatever you feel too ^^

Thanks again for your spreadsheet.

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Old 12/24/09, 11:02 PM   #11039
jumanji
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Thaurissan
is there a working addon that allow tanks to mark without having partyleader or assist?
i'm using simple marker but it's not working without having lead or assist.

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Old 12/25/09, 12:10 AM   #11040
Mishii
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Blood Elf Hunter
 
The Scryers
Originally Posted by jumanji View Post
is there a working addon that allow tanks to mark without having partyleader or assist?
i'm using simple marker but it's not working without having lead or assist.
I'm not sure of any addons, but the new patch makes it so that anyone in the group can mark targets. It at least works that way for the LFG system. I haven't really tested it. You might want to try it out.

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