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Old 12/27/09, 5:13 PM   #11131
draghkar
Piston Honda
 
Tauren Shaman
 
Aggramar (EU)
update first post

Can the OP update his post on first page or close this thread and open a new one, new comers find outdated
info on first page and read all the thread is not feasible anymore.

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Old 12/27/09, 5:20 PM   #11132
Argal
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Stormscale
Hi I'm a new WoW player started just last July I wanted to know if my talents for PvE is correct here's the link The World of Warcraft Armory

I just build it up from what i saw at my other guildmates skill tree, hope that you guys could help me thank you

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Old 12/27/09, 5:57 PM   #11133
Schnelly
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Mage
 
Alterac Mountains
Originally Posted by Tycruise View Post
I'm sure this has most likely already been asked and addressed, so I apologize for asking again. I did attempt to find any topic in direct relation via the search feature, but I was unable to do so. I also know how to add procs manually, but, why does Rawr currently have [Ashen Band of Unmatched Wisdom]/[Ashen Band of Endless Wisdom], but not [Ashen Band of Unmatched Destruction]/[Ashen Band of Endless Destruction]?
Just add them via the armory, or wowhead by their item ID.

Tools -> Edit Items -> Add...

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Old 12/27/09, 6:05 PM   #11134
Hegen
In gear/DCT lock pin
 
Human Priest
 
Alleria (EU)
Originally Posted by Jamz2000 View Post
The primary use for Mind sear as a healing tool is on a fight with frequest spell lockouts, ie. Freya. Hence the majority
of my testing and preparation for my thesis was as part of the Freya encounter. If you use mind sear to proc surge of light prior to a ground tremor, this not only gives protection against the tremor locking out your holy school, but allows
additional hp/s which can be extremely valuable, if for example someone is rooted.
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If you fit in mind sear in your normal healing cast priority ie. Instead of Flash healing and renewing between Prayer of Mending & Prayer of Healing the raid dps increases and you don't really lose any hps.
It has been some time since I have been healing on Freya. That said, I do not see how Mind sear helps your hp/s here. Firstly, if you get locked out by tremor, you have been careless. In that case, you would also have missed casting Mind sear in time. Secondly, if Freya poses any challenge, it's Freya+3. In that case why not use Holy Nova, Renew, PoM, or CoH instead of wasting a GcD and around 1000 mana for a noncritting flash of light?

My personal guess is that your healing total has increased just because you have been paying more attention in order to do your tests.

Originally Posted by Jeremy Clarkson
The simple fact is this. We are told to concentrate more. But we can only do that if we are allowed to go considerably faster.

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Old 12/27/09, 7:08 PM   #11135
gravelayer
 
Orc Warlock
 
Kul Tiras
Originally Posted by Arthas View Post
I play a warlock as an alt in my spare time and havent kept up with the new affliction changes. It doesn't look to me like the front page is being updated anymore. Can someone direct me to a place that offers spec and rotation information that is updated for 3.3.
I also have an old warlock I don't play a ton. I'd like to try affliction and also want the post on rotation, spec and glyph info. for 3.3

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Old 12/27/09, 7:45 PM   #11136
Miarose
Von Kaiser
 
Undead Priest
 
Runetotem
Originally Posted by Jamz2000 View Post
-SNIP-
Gift of life test 1) Mana cost x mob (1) x surge proc = 6000 heal / infrequent procs = around an extra 200 hp/s.

Compared to the lasher test, however: 2) mana cost x multiple mobs (10) x surge proc = 6000 heal / frequent procs = extra 1000 hp/s
Where are the actual numbers to coincide with your findings? Logs?
What about the effect of running with zero hit rating, misses? Assumed/actual crit rating?
Does this HPS gain(?) compare to that of using glyhped COH or POH in terms of increased HPS?

I find the downtime of not healing while casting mind sear just to get a free non crit flash heal to not be an overall gain and only rarely situational. Like Hegen said, if you get locked out by tremor, you have been careless, and are losing DPS/HPS time anyways.

Last edited by Miarose : 12/27/09 at 8:04 PM.

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Old 12/27/09, 8:18 PM   #11137
Ghostblades
 
Troll Rogue
 
Area 52
Originally Posted by Kain52 View Post
I'm also joining in the IceHUD party, one of my "must have" addons.

And on the note of timers I've been using RoguePowerBars (Updated) while it doesn't seem as fancy a couple others that have been posted, it tracks everything I need for my play style (SnD, various CDs, Mangle, etc). In my screenshot below you can see it in action under the IceHUD bars.

Hi,

What is the name of the combo point addon that you are using in this screen shot? I had a hard drive failure and lost all of my addons and I can't remember the name of that particular addon. I've searched all of the UI sites and can't seem to find it, but I know it's the one I used to use.

Thanks!

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Old 12/27/09, 8:44 PM   #11138
Zakerias
 
Human Rogue
 
Moon Guard
combat??

I sincerely apologize if this has been discussed already, I'm slowly making my way through all the posts on the main forum (I'm dyslexic, thus it takes longer). My biggest issue, is that I can't seem to get my DPS higher. I think it's a mixture of proper talent spread, hit rotation, gemming and his s

First off, I have an 80 rogue that I'm trying to up my dps. Using assassination, I do upward to 2K dps. Taking the talent spread and rotations from the site will help improve that as I get better gear.

Now then...Combat, s the bane of my existence. I can't seem to get this spec to bring the dps and functionality that I know it can do. For example: dps & interrupts, I'm often being asked to help interrupt a raid boss, but even with improved kick, I only managed to get 2 interrupts to land >.< . I've tried several rotations that I've worked up on my own, but I'm not really happy with them. I know everyone plays differently, but still I'd appreciate a rotation to fiddle with that makes optimum . I know this spec can bring good dps...I'm just having trouble knowing the /how/ to do that.

I really appreciate y'all's time, this is my first toon and I never messed with the science of the classes until now. It's quite interesing =). I hope this wasn't /too/ long, brief is not in my vocabulary =D. Final note: I really appreciate any answers to these. Thanks =).

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Old 12/27/09, 8:49 PM   #11139
Zakerias
 
Human Rogue
 
Moon Guard
Stats an caps

First off - fantastic piece. It'll be of great use to me as a new 80 rogue and my first toon.


Stats - I'm reading here that AP is the most important stat to stack. Well I did that once and it wasn't until I re-gemmed and switched to agi/hit/crit (not in that order) that my dps went from 1K to 2K. So...what's the deal here? I read one site that linked to y'all (Parry! Dogde! Spin!), which said that hit, AP, haste, agi, expertise, and then crit is the best order to work rogue stats. Honestly...I'm not sure what to do - I'm leaning more to the latter stat suggestion but I'm not sure the deal with all that AP. I was under the impression that agi was the best since it stacked with kings, whereas AP does not. With 1 Agi = 1 AP, it seems to make more sense to do agi since I do a lot of my dungeons/raids/dailies with a pally. So the question...

Caps - I have /no/ clue what the caps for any of the stats out there. How do I find this out? I don't want to use a gem for say...hit rating when I'm already at the cap for that stat.

I appreciate any details on this and apologize if the info is already on the site, I'm dyslexic and it takes me longer to read.

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Old 12/27/09, 8:58 PM   #11140
Nitekoala
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Jubei'Thos
The combo points that are just below the character, in the centre of the screen are a part of IceHUD, you can customise them in a number of different ways, it's pretty cool.

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Old 12/27/09, 8:59 PM   #11141
proteja
Glass Joe
 
Human Rogue
 
The Forgotten Coast
Originally Posted by Zakerias View Post
First off - fantastic piece. It'll be of great use to me as a new 80 rogue and my first toon.


Stats - I'm reading here that AP is the most important stat to stack. Well I did that once and it wasn't until I re-gemmed and switched to agi/hit/crit (not in that order) that my dps went from 1K to 2K. So...what's the deal here? I read one site that linked to y'all (Parry! Dogde! Spin!), which said that hit, AP, haste, agi, expertise, and then crit is the best order to work rogue stats. Honestly...I'm not sure what to do - I'm leaning more to the latter stat suggestion but I'm not sure the deal with all that AP. I was under the impression that agi was the best since it stacked with kings, whereas AP does not. With 1 Agi = 1 AP, it seems to make more sense to do agi since I do a lot of my dungeons/raids/dailies with a pally. So the question...

Caps - I have /no/ clue what the caps for any of the stats out there. How do I find this out? I don't want to use a gem for say...hit rating when I'm already at the cap for that stat.

I appreciate any details on this and apologize if the info is already on the site, I'm dyslexic and it takes me longer to read.
These spread sheets are built with the idea that principle benchmarks are already met on your toon.

For instance, the EP weight of Hit changes as you meet the Special ability hit cap, and the poison (spell) hit cap. Same thing for expertise. This spread sheet was built for raiders with already decent gear that are knowledgeable of these caps and are either already meeting them, or making them a priority and achieving them before worrying about optimizing other stats.

An example of this that is very simple is that EP weight of Expertise is always the highest, but the spread sheet will never tell you to gem for it. The spreadsheet assumes that you will gem/enchant to the expertise cap yourself after which point expertise is worthless.

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Old 12/27/09, 10:34 PM   #11142
Cookiemonster
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Paladin
 
Icecrown
Gemming and RAWR.

I'm wondering about my enhance shaman, he has 6.5 percent exp. and 494 melee hit. RAWR wants me to go straight haste, I always thought it was attack power. Did something change or should I try for haste now? Or maybe even a hybrid of haste and attack power?

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Old 12/27/09, 10:48 PM   #11143
Natureza
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Earthen Ring (EU)
First off, read This topic for the general idea behind builds if you havent already, which your glyph choice suggests.

Second, just looking through your armory profile -
Gemming. This should be one of following: 40AP / 20ArP / 20Agi in almost all sockets, if you have a blue socket - use Nightmare Tear [+10all] but use only one gem of blue colour. Everything else - red gems, plus occasional yellow filled with 10Agi/10Haste gems.
Meta gem is of course 21Agi/3% increased crit dmg.

Change your cloak and Hemmorhaging Circle for the Valor badge ones, it's probably the easiest upgrade for you to gain.
Additionally you're way above the expertise cap - which is 24, anything above this equals 0dps gain.

If you're sent to interrupting energy you'll have to "pool" energy, meaning:
You will have to wait for some of the energy to stack up and use a appropriate skill before the energy reaches roughly 60. If you will just spam the [for example] SS button, you will nearly never have the energy to interrupt.

Finally:
Never, ever, ever use a Slow MH/Slow OH weapon as combat, it's better to find something with lower dps but of 1.6 speed for example.
There's a couple reasons behind this, the easiest one to explain is how Combat Potency works, you want it to proc as often as it's possible. Additionally faster OH will stack it's poison faster and since you should be using IP/DP combination - by improving the OH poison proc rate, you increase the MH proc rate.

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Old 12/28/09, 12:56 AM   #11144
Dimnerial
Glass Joe
 
Dimnerial's Avatar
 
Goblin Warrior
 
Korgath
Is there a program besides Excel Viewer that I can use to view the spreadsheet without having to purchase MS Excel?

I downloaded the spreadsheet and I'm unable to use the drop-down menu or copy/paste anything into it. Seeing as I'm an undead rogue it doesn't help me that the default race it's set to is Night Elf.

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Old 12/28/09, 2:45 AM   #11145
Flipppppyyy
 
Undead Rogue
 
Demon Soul
Hey, a few rogues in my guild have recently been switching their OH enchant from Berserking to Black Magic, because it will proc off of poisons.
Has anyone tested this out much so we would know if its a upgrade or no? =)

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