Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 749

Fjell · 12/29/09, 4:11 PM

What order of frost badge items are folks going with? Is there some sort of rough "best path" consensus out there?

I'm in sort of a funky situation. Still wearing 4pc t8 (25m), 245 badge shoulders, and mostly 245+ everything else. I'm leaning towards going for tier first because I feel way behind. Going for the cheapest to get the 2pc T10 bonus sounds great, but then I realize, that's shoulders and gloves. Of the tier slots, shoulders are the one piece tht's 245, so I'd hate to replace those before the older stuff. Gloves sounds nice, but I'm assuming VoA can drop gloves and legs soon, so that seems unwise to spend badges on that.

zuess · 12/29/09, 6:38 PM

Nevermind, my question was answered.

Tenge · 12/29/09, 7:41 PM

Originally Posted by Glokki

If you look at the tooltip youll notice its "UP TO x%". In reality you are not removing all a mobs armor.

But more importantly if youre only capping arp with a proc you will obviously enjoy the benefits of a full sunder stack during the proc downtime - even if you did remove 100% boss armor while the proc was up.

Unless it's changed again, and if I recall correctly:

The portion of a mob's armor that can be removed by Armor Pen is mutually exclusive from the portion that's removed by Sunder. Though if I recall, Shattring Throw does dip into the portion covered by Armor Pen.

Glokki · 12/29/09, 8:37 PM

Originally Posted by Tenge

Unless it's changed again, and if I recall correctly:

The portion of a mob's armor that can be removed by Armor Pen is mutually exclusive from the portion that's removed by Sunder.

Correct - which is exactly what I just said in post #2298

Durace · 12/29/09, 11:14 PM

Why is there no import from armory feature on either of the spreadsheets? Is it really hard to integrate? Otherwise, it's an extremely helpful tool.

Naerys · 12/30/09, 3:49 AM

I've browsed through these Shaman forums on and off for a week, searching for discussions on specs and talent comparisons, and I haven't found anything specific. I also notice that the elemental shaman think tank wiki page is currently down. I may just be missing how this section of the forums functions, being used to the Death Knight threads, but is there a source of knowledge on elemental shaman specs that I could look at, and if not, how can I help to create this resource of knowledge?

Eazye · 12/30/09, 4:15 AM

Delete please

OSIK.bp · 12/30/09, 4:30 AM

Can someone help with my questions, specially about "1) Best choice for ArP"??? PLEASE.

brownsa · 12/30/09, 4:59 AM

My i ask a few things about the talent builds... Btw i used to play a rogue in 3.1, now i dont play him anymore but im still interested. Ok first of all, why 1 in Vile Poisons and 4 in Imp. Poisons for the combat build, why not go 5 in imp. poisons?
And why put 2 points into relentless strikes and not in opportunity, a 20% damage increase on mut would be more helpful than an average chance of 32% - 40% to gain 25 energy, not to mention more sustained and reliable dps ?

Thanks

pwrnstar117 · 12/30/09, 7:05 AM

Although I used to PvP and DPS strictly as frost I'm finding that with the implementation of ArP on much of our gear Blood is becoming ever more viable for both especially with the 50% snare on HS. As such I've begun to wonder over the real importance to DRW in our builds.

I believe that 50/0/21 would in fact benefit us more, I am not playing atm on account of deployment. However, my wife has been playing and she strictly plays blood builds. I told her to switch her point out of DRW and put it into UB instead. She has said that she feels she actually kills things faster now, unfortunately she is woefully lacking on meter and mechanics knowledge in game. I am curious if anyone knows if the UB dmg is currently stackable, i.e. if you kick off 3 DC's within the 10 second proc does it simply refresh the duration of the 10 second debuff or do they stack together and all three tick for 10 seconds each? If they do in fact stack and not just refresh the debuff I can forsee UB builds outdps'ing DRW builds, especially considering the rediculous CD on DRW. (3 minutes, really Blizzard? If its to remain on a 3 minute CD put it back to 100% dmg like it was originally.)

Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

If the DC effect is in fact not stackable, then you could change out the UB glyph for either the BS glyph or the HS glyph, depending on whether your guild needed your snare on HS (they shouldn't if they don't absoultely suck at life.)

Bonecaller · 12/30/09, 7:20 AM

Originally Posted by pwrnstar117

Although I used to PvP and DPS strictly as frost I'm finding that with the implementation of ArP on much of our gear Blood is becoming ever more viable for both especially with the 50% snare on HS. As such I've begun to wonder over the real importance to DRW in our builds.

I believe that 50/0/21 would in fact benefit us more, I am not playing atm on account of deployment. However, my wife has been playing and she strictly plays blood builds. I told her to switch her point out of DRW and put it into UB instead.
She has said that she feels she actually kills things faster now, unfortunately she is woefully lacking on meter and mechanics knowledge in game. I am curious if anyone knows if the UB dmg is currently stackable, i.e. if you kick off 3 DC's within the 10 second proc does it simply refresh the duration of the 10 second debuff or do they stack together and all three tick for 10 seconds each? If they do in fact stack and not just refresh the debuff I can forsee UB builds outdps'ing DRW builds, especially considering the rediculous CD on DRW. (3 minutes, really Blizzard? If its to remain on a 3 minute CD put it back to 100% dmg like it was originally.)

UB was worse even before the nerf. Now that they halved the UB damage, it's absolutely a big dps loss.

And more ridiulous is: Where did you pick up, that DRW has a 3 minutes CD. It's still 1.5 minutes.

White.Gold@ntlworld.com · 12/30/09, 7:21 AM

Originally Posted by Nilaus

What's the status of "Raiding as BM"?

This thread is rather inactive, which of course could be due to a number of reasons:
- No one raids as BM
- It is so simple that everything has been figured out
- BM specced hunters are inactive on EJ

I like the idea of raiding as BM, but being the proverbial red-headed step child among the DPSers in the raid is a guaranteed way to get benched.

I raid as bm and don't intend to change, granted it's not a top guild but I usually get near top dps, to change to mm or surv would spoil my enjoyment of the game, so do your best with the spec that suits you

pwrnstar117 · 12/30/09, 7:24 AM

I was told that in Cataclysm it was in fact going to be moved to a 3 minute CD. If this isn't true then I guess this makes all of it a moot point.

yelloxman · 12/30/09, 8:00 AM

Hi, Currently im running with 4 piece bonus from T8.5 (and i have T9 shoulders). I'm thinking of replacing my T8.5 helm with the haste helm from triumph badges or getting another T9 piece (looking at pants to replace my T8). Based on the sp and haste gain, it looks like the helm would be a better choice. However, I lose close to 3% crit and the 4 piece set bonus (this is with the triumph badge helm). Would it be better to tradeoff the sp and haste for the bonus and haste.. or would it be better to get a T9 piece and get that two piece bonus?

Tomolak · 12/30/09, 8:36 AM

With one of my (holy) trinks being Spark of Hope - Item - World of Warcraft, what would be the 2nd out of these three that are available to me: Tears of the Vanquished - Item - World of Warcraft, Talisman of Resurgence - Item - World of Warcraft or Figurine - Sapphire Owl - Item - World of Warcraft?

PS: Is the Snowflake even an option after the hotfix?