Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 751

caracarn53 · 12/30/09, 6:57 PM

Originally Posted by Tomolak

With one of my (holy) trinks being Spark of Hope - Item - World of Warcraft, what would be the 2nd out of these three that are available to me: Tears of the Vanquished - Item - World of Warcraft, Talisman of Resurgence - Item - World of Warcraft or Figurine - Sapphire Owl - Item - World of Warcraft?

PS: Is the Snowflake even an option after the hotfix?

When it comes to trinkets for a holy I've found that it is very difficult to come up with one answer to what trinket do I use. Generally what I've found for both holy and disc is having a solace is such a great option because it is going to provide to you both regen and throughput.

Given that Solace is generally a little bit more difficult to obtain what you might want to consider in choosing your trinket is the rest of your gear. I would reccomend taking a look at your toon in rawr, a great gear analysis tool, to help yourself in making the decision. My guess would be that if you are in mostly 232 or better ilevel gear you probably have a sufficent amount of mana and could consider picking up a spell power trinket - Eye of the broodmother, illustration of the dragon soul, sif's remberance, the lunar dust are all options for that from lower raid tiers in which obtaining a group shouldn't be too hard. If you are a little bit short mana or int then I'd reccomend using tailsman of resurgance as it is going to give you the most int which will in turn improve the performance of your spirt and crit.

Zôdak · 12/30/09, 7:57 PM

wasent sure weather too check that off or not, still a dps increase

trixta · 12/30/09, 8:18 PM

Kinda Happy today Ive got my Deathbringer's Will.
but Im kinda sad instead of ARP im getting Crit.
Is it gonna be changed for Unholy because I heard blood was getting ARP instead of Crit?

Breganth · 12/30/09, 8:22 PM

Blood gets Str, Crit and ArP
we get Str, Crit and Haste

so, by that, Blood gets ArP instead of Haste (not Crit)

♦ Darkside · 12/30/09, 8:22 PM

What three procs are you getting then, ArPen, Haste and Strength?

It had previously been reported that Unholy received Haste, Crit and Strength; is there any chance you coult post a log with all the relevant buffs present?

Rhinoe · 12/30/09, 8:25 PM

Originally Posted by jvoodoochild

I’m considering for an AoE encounter the starting rotation of PS, BS, IT, P, Rune Tap & DnD.

Without 2pT9, my melee dmg range is listed as 1777 to 2142 with BP, BS, & HoW as my only buffs. My basic math skills indicates at max BS dmg FF+GoIT +5% would have to trigger 23,4 times before it would equal the dmg loss of 12,5% of my BS. I have left out the Impurity and Ebon Plague bonuses out as I’m not sure if they effect FF or only the initial dmg of IT. If they are in effect for FF and not BS then the number drops to 19,5

I know BS will scale better with additional buffs than FF, but roughly how much? Now for me its heroics not raids so I won’t get the full spectrum of buffs that is calculated for max DPS. Could this rotation be better for casual players like me?

Thanks in advance

The only thing I do different is IT-BS-PS-Pest-RT-DnD. You get a disease on target before you get into melee range plus that sends your ghoul in faster.

trixta · 12/30/09, 8:33 PM

Originally Posted by Breganth

Blood gets Str, Crit and ArP
we get Str, Crit and Haste

so, by that, Blood gets ArP instead of Haste (not Crit)

Ah sorry I thought it was ARP - Crit and not ARP- haste :P

I wish they would give us ARP for unholy anyways!

Tainx · 12/30/09, 9:05 PM

Hello everyone, this is my first time posting, but I have read tons of threads about BIS gear etc. I have a question though. This BIS thread is about theoretical dps correct? What are people seeing in raids? Are they anywhere near what rawr says?

For example, bis normal plate gear is above 8400dps in TOC 25 gear. All I needed were trinkets but I had a hard time reaching 6500 dps on stand still fights. Am I missing something? I know its not a perfect world but I'm seeing classes hit 8-10k now and I want to at least be 8k myself. I think this post could go in BIS and possibly the CLCret post.

Kinmaul · 12/30/09, 9:15 PM

Well first off missing trinkets (I assume you mean dual DC) is a pretty significant dps loss. However looking at your gear there's no reason you should be doing 6500 dps. Is your raid comp lacking some kind of synergy? Are you using FCFS or are you holding off using abilities while you wait for another ability to come up? Something is going wrong for your dps to be that low.

Ottosen · 12/30/09, 9:42 PM

Based on the things I've read, other's work, and my own theory crafting, I've considered making a change, as mutilate, from red sockets = 40 ap, yellow sockets 20 ap/10 haste to do 20 ap/10 haste in red sockets, and 20 haste in yellow sockets.

Simply put, go for haste more directly. Before I try and change my entire gear gem wise, I'd like to hear what you guys think of it?

Might keep my 3 JC specific gems as AP though, to maintain a decent amount of AP. (This was the idea of a friendly rogue)

Tainx · 12/30/09, 10:13 PM

Yeah I just got a lot of gear yesterday. No I'm using clcret with j>cs>ds priority. It just seemed to me like I didn't get close to what I "should" be able to. I would see lesser geared pally's in pugs pulling 7k+ dps yet I couldn't.

Also I just wanted to say thank you for this thread because without it I wouldn't be anything

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jones4569 · 12/30/09, 10:50 PM

I had a question about a 2/54/15 frost build, similar to the mostly used 0/54/17.

Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

Is swapping the 2 points from BCB for Butchery (2RP/5sec) worth it? Since the nerf to the IT glyph I would think the extra RP gain throughout a fight would make a noticeable difference.

Malcophant · 12/30/09, 11:30 PM

How does that send your ghoul in any faster? Are you referring to a /petattack macro, or is there something I'm missing that gets the ghoul in there faster?

Medestruit · 12/30/09, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by Bonecaller

UB was worse even before the nerf. Now that they halved the UB damage, it's absolutely a big dps loss.

And more ridiulous is: Where did you pick up, that DRW has a 3 minutes CD. It's still 1.5 minutes.

And even then, it's really only 1 minute between usage(as it's CD begins ticking down as soon as you use it, not after the ability dissipates),

runnee · 12/30/09, 11:44 PM

It is on autocast, i am doing this because I did the same for destro spec with imp, where firebolt is macroed for imp and Imp is on autocast too.

Going affliction for now because of about 800 dps increase from destro. haha