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Old 01/05/10, 8:03 AM   #11461
zacheryah
Glass Joe
 
Undead Warlock
 
Twilight's Hammer (EU)
Originally Posted by Diev View Post
If haste>SP, what are the best gems? Pure SP for Demonic Pact, pure haste, or SP/Haste?
since 12 spellpower + 10 haste, is better then 20 haste itself, but worse then 23 spellpower :

red socket = 23 spellpower
yellow socket =12 spellpower + 10 haste

Jc sockets/belt = 23 spellpower

and go for whatever trinket offers the highest spellpower

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Old 01/05/10, 8:38 AM   #11462
Naforce
Piston Honda
 
Human Warlock
 
Frostmane (EU)
Originally Posted by zacheryah View Post
Warlocks doing less damage then pures ?


current content
In affliction :
we allways top deathwhisper
we allways compete for the top on marrowgar

in destruction :
Second behind shadowpriests amongst those switching to adds on saurfang, but doing more damage to those adds then spriest, second to mages.

Might I ask what your source of information is? Just throwing out stuff like this, just like the person you quoted did, doesn't give much perspective. Looking at World of Logs for these particular encounters proves you very wrong. I'm not sure as to how accurate world of logs is, since sometimes it seems the fights are just 30 seconds long.

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Old 01/05/10, 8:42 AM   #11463
Arcdragon
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Mage
 
Moon Guard
New to using rawr

I've recently started using rawr and I am finding some odd results with different combinations. For some reason it tells me that I stand to gain higher dps from using Disguise of the Kumiho over Furious Gladiator's Cloak of Subjugation--this makes no sense to me since the pvp cloak has more spell power and more haste than the valor emblem cloak.
The only weaknesses of the pvp cloak as I see it is a lack of spirit and slightly less int.

Is rawr simply bugged here or is the 37 spirit that important?

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Old 01/05/10, 10:16 AM   #11464
Nikko
Glass Joe
 
Human Mage
 
Sen'jin
That comparison is 1 haste and 8 spellpower (pvp cloak) vs 37 * 1.1 * .7 = 28.49 crit (molten armor) and some mana regen. Crit may be the worst itemized stat but it is far from useless.

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Old 01/05/10, 11:52 AM   #11465
zacheryah
Glass Joe
 
Undead Warlock
 
Twilight's Hammer (EU)
Shure, here are this weeks logs, and the other dps in my clan is quite skilled.

Note, No pi, no demonic pact.

Marrowgar
Could have done more, got spiked when they bloodlusted, and for some reason its not counting felhunter dps, otherwise i was third


Deathwhisper
Mage got double PI, i really want to see this fight with PI and demonic pact


Saurfang
Mellee remain on boss tactic, forced into destro.
could do better there tho

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Old 01/05/10, 11:55 AM   #11466
wizkhalifa
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Death Knight
 
Bonechewer
I am really disappointed that Frost wont scale as well as Unholy.
I just started to play again after about 3-4 months of downtime, and came back as Unholy.
I have noticed a DPS increase in Unholy, but I don't think anyone can deny that Frost is the most fun to play. I switched back to Frost from Unholy simply to keep the game fun for myself.

The worst part about it, im still beating UH/Blood DKs in my raid =(
I just love 100K+ HB hits =)

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Old 01/05/10, 11:57 AM   #11467
Dezarro
Glass Joe
 
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Orc Hunter
 
Kargath


Here's an older one of mine. I'll post a new one with a lot of what you see here hidden. Pretty much half the bars and buttons aren't displayed anymore. Also, the viewport has been scaled down a bit.

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Old 01/05/10, 11:59 AM   #11468
Ealdred
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Warrior
 
Moon Guard
A couple of very quick questions!

Hello all!

I'm new to the forums, and had a couple of quick questions for the Fury DPS community here. I figured you guys would be the best folks to ask!

1) Armor Penetration vs. Strength - I have heard of Fury Warriors gemming almost entirely for Armor Penetration as opposed to Strength. I currently have the scorpion trinket that procs a ton of ArPen, but only occasionally. My current passive ArPen is at 711, or just a shade under 50 percent. Does anyone have any opinions about whether gemming for ArPen is worthwhile? If so, when does ArPen become more valuable than Strength and the attack power one gets from stacking it?

2) Hit Rating - I recently had a rare (and random) opportunity to run ICC with a Fury Warrior who was, for all intents and purposes, about as closely geared as I was, and yet his DPS outdid mine by nearly 500 points per fight. I spoke with him at length about his stats, rotation, etc, and we were very near identical save for one stat - hit rating. His was higher than mine by about 70 or so points (I am -just- above the soft-cap at 8 percent with 3 points in precision). Was he just getting lucky, was he a more knowledgeable player, or was his increased hit rating contributing to more DPS due to a higher amount of white melee damage?

I am certain that these questions were likely addressed and answered in the vast depths of this topic already, but I wouldn't know where to look. If anyone has the time or the wherewithal to answer these questions for me, I would be most grateful.

Thanks in advance!

Taurekoth (Moon Guard)

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Old 01/05/10, 12:12 PM   #11469
Nmy
 
Undead Rogue
 
Stormreaver (EU)
Sorry if this post is abit off the topic. However I am currently looking for a info post more or less about stats that rather simply shows whats the most benefical stats are spirit or int? Crit or Haste? Whats the Hit cap? along with some sort of report what proffs are the best taking into to bring once DPS to the max. There is one on the rogue forum but i cant find one here. If i missed it in some strange way i would love if someone could link it for me. Simply said im looking for a pocket guide for Elemental shamans for wotlk that keeps it self rather updated. Thanks for any help given!

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Old 01/05/10, 12:13 PM   #11470
Heavymetal
 
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Ravencrest
One time a few weeks ago I got 17 people to /gquit at once, ah Hilarious

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Old 01/05/10, 12:15 PM   #11471
fivespeed1992
Von Kaiser
 
Human Death Knight
 
Azgalor
Originally Posted by wizkhalifa View Post
I am really disappointed that Frost wont scale as well as Unholy.
I just started to play again after about 3-4 months of downtime, and came back as Unholy.
I have noticed a DPS increase in Unholy, but I don't think anyone can deny that Frost is the most fun to play. I switched back to Frost from Unholy simply to keep the game fun for myself.

The worst part about it, im still beating UH/Blood DKs in my raid =(
I just love 100K+ HB hits =)
Regardless about the enjoyability of the spec, we're talking about damage done, and unfortunately as it stands, Unholy is better than Frost. So unless your guild needs a 20% haste buff, then you're better off going unholy.

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Old 01/05/10, 12:51 PM   #11472
Na8
Glass Joe
 
Orc Death Knight
 
Mal'Ganis
Hello I had a shadowpriest question my brother is fairly new to raiding with his shadowpriest he has decent gear about a 4900 gearscore rating and does good on aoe pulls but he is still only pulling 3k dps on boss fights. i have had him read this forum and try the rotation but maybe him or myself is missing something. His name is Rotman he is in the same guild as the DK in my avatar if you need to inspect before answering my question. Could someone tell me the best single boss rotation for his toon?

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Old 01/05/10, 2:22 PM   #11473
Neonias
Glass Joe
 
Orc Hunter
 
Eredar (EU)
can anyone come up with a macro for Furious Howl.
i only want my pet cast Furious Howl. not attack my current target.
So if my pet stands left to me on passiv i dont want it to attack if it attacks target a and i am attacking target b it should stay on target a.

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Old 01/05/10, 2:26 PM   #11474
Sundog
 
Human Warlock
 
Grizzly Hills
I'm with Khaaz

I'm assuming your post helped him quite a bit, and I'm wondering why I only do 4.6 dps. I've been blood forever and just like the tight rotation, I agree, since 3.3 Unholy may have an advantage but I'm hoping that my familiarty with blood will compensate. But I've noticed other DKs, similarly geared doing better than me. Maybe you can help.

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Old 01/05/10, 2:50 PM   #11475
stuke
 
Gnome Death Knight
 
Hyjal (EU)
Hello,

In first sorry for my bad english , french teenagers

I'm recently re-play my Dk tank and have a few questions.

1) : I'm LOVE unholy spec , can i tank ICC 10 EDC 10 HM and others with this spec ?

2 ) Frost tank spec is very low than blood spec or this spec is good ?

I'm not writting long text because you're eyes don't support my horrible post.

Sorry for disagrement

Thx

Stuke

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