Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 77

Caesar86 · 11/30/08, 3:34 PM

Originally Posted by Seonid

Asking which spec to level with is the same as asking what are the best colour socks to wear - it all depends on you and what you find works for you. Frost is fine for levelling as you have good survivability and control and it certainly is more forgiving of mistakes to a degree. Fire is also good for levelling as you kill things quickly and still have some degree of control. As you are frost maybe try fire for a bit, see how it goes as once you have tried both, you will prefer one to the other, which will answer your question.

as for me i dont mind any specc as whatever is best goes, the thing tho is if we take hunters for examples when it comes to levling it really does matter with specc you are, since in the end one specc will give you more downtime.

I know Beastmastery has allways been the best (dunno about now) and survival hasnt, so if it isnt that big of a diffrence in mages i will just try everything out and se how it works.

Its not that i dont know the class but asking quickly here wich specc that should be the optimate helps me get to work quicker.

Anyway, thanks for your quick response.

Cwealm · 11/30/08, 4:44 PM

Apologize if this has been answered already, but for tailor mages, is the +23 haste enchant better than the lightweave embroidery?

Dreadmyst · 11/30/08, 5:09 PM

I just hit level 80 not to long ago and i was wondering what the new hit cap is. Is it still the same 16% like in BC or has the percent gone up? with catyclysm i have 16% with hit gear but I dont know if thats the cap and i need to focus on staying near that while gettting SP, crit and haste gear.

Jevade · 12/01/08, 2:42 AM

Lets assume PvP encounters do not occur and that all my weopons are the same level. If I were to question grind from 70-80 with a healbot following me around, which spec would get me to 80 faster? Arms vs Furry

Marvie · 12/01/08, 4:14 AM

EDIT- Thank you Antiarc, well put.

stratagos · 12/01/08, 8:03 AM

Originally Posted by Aldriana

Well, as mentioned, this basically won't work right now no matter what you do, since it hasn't been updated for 3.0. That's certainly something we plan to do, but it hasn't happened yet. It will probably be a few weeks or months before there is something usable again.

To those of you who have expressed interest in helping: sorry for the delay in getting the second round of communication out. I was hoping to get it out last week before the expansion came out, but I ran out of time; and now, of course, like most of you, I'm busy playing the game rather than theorycrafting it. Once the initial rush dies off I'll get back to coordinating development of RogueCalc.

Your old spreadsheet was amazing, so I was about to give RogueCalc a go until I read this. Just to clarify, RogueCalc doesn't work for WotLK yet?

valkyries · 12/01/08, 9:17 AM

Thanks,

So which sigil should I wait for? badges one or naxx one?
I was under the impresion that haste isnt that good for us.
thanks

Boojangles · 12/01/08, 10:17 AM

Hey there,

I am having a similar problem to what many other people have posted... inferior DPS. Now I know that due to some changes Paladins and DK's are doing an intense amount of damage.

Now I am routinely #3 on DPS (Behind a DK with excellent gear and a paladin with equally amazing gear) in 10-man Naxx. I go nuts during every encounter. I use Tricks of the Trade (on the tank) and immediately pop my AP trink/Blade Flurry macro and use Killing Spree (group pulls only obviously) once Killing Spree stops I pop Fan of Blades and settle onto the tank target. Since these are trash-pulls I cannot get into a proper 5s/5r/5e rotation (Since I am specced into S&D and glyphed on trash I just pop a few CP's of S&D and call it good).

What my issue is is my boss damage. It is usually the same arrangement as my overall. DK on top, Paladin second and myself third. This is with me blowing CD's at appropriate times (TotT on tank, AR/AP trink once initial energy pool expended) and a 5s/5r/5ev rotation. I knew something was wrong when I only got 2300ish on Patchwerk the other night. Deadly MH/WoundOH of course.

I would really appreciate a critique of my gearing choices. Have I prioritized hit over AP too much? My next badge purchase is the Mirror of Truth (I was dumb and got the belt first... I know I am not terribly bright).

Thank you!

Kumar · 12/01/08, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Boojangles

Hey there,

I am having a similar problem to what many other people have posted... inferior DPS. Now I know that due to some changes Paladins and DK's are doing an intense amount of damage.

Now I am routinely #3 on DPS (Behind a DK with excellent gear and a paladin with equally amazing gear) in 10-man Naxx. I go nuts during every encounter. I use Tricks of the Trade (on the tank) and immediately pop my AP trink/Blade Flurry macro and use Killing Spree (group pulls only obviously) once Killing Spree stops I pop Fan of Blades and settle onto the tank target. Since these are trash-pulls I cannot get into a proper 5s/5r/5e rotation (Since I am specced into S&D and glyphed on trash I just pop a few CP's of S&D and call it good).

What my issue is is my boss damage. It is usually the same arrangement as my overall. DK on top, Paladin second and myself third. This is with me blowing CD's at appropriate times (TotT on tank, AR/AP trink once initial energy pool expended) and a 5s/5r/5ev rotation. I knew something was wrong when I only got 2300ish on Patchwerk the other night. Deadly MH/WoundOH of course.

I would really appreciate a critique of my gearing choices. Have I prioritized hit over AP too much? My next badge purchase is the Mirror of Truth (I was dumb and got the belt first... I know I am not terribly bright).

Thank you!

Once above the Special attack hit cap, the spreadsheet will show optimal gemming choices. Right now, I am going with the +16 AP, +8 hit gems (main reason is they are cheap on my server and the gear I have will be replaced in Naxx).

Also, from working with the Spreadsheet, Deadly MH/Wound OH provides higher DPS only when the OH is of speed 1.4 or lower. Currently, no swords exist in Wrath of speed 1.4, so you will get higher DPS with Wound MH/Deadly OH.

Apart from that, echant your gear, use the Eternal Belt Buckle to get an extra gem slot on your Belt.

bKIND · 12/01/08, 11:51 AM

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Bifuu · 12/01/08, 1:39 PM

Originally Posted by Cranch

Per the spreadsheet, and assuming we can get enough hit from gear and gems, this is the highest dps talent and glyph build I was able to come up with for BM.

I'd like to see some proof of the assertion that 50/21/0 works better in reality.

This is the same build i use and i average at least 3k dps in 10 mans

im not sure about 25 mans because i havnt been able to do any yet

Spookydookie · 12/01/08, 4:15 PM

Originally Posted by Demi9OD

With the bugged 15% crit on Master Poisoner

=D
what's this you say?

Brookes · 12/01/08, 5:52 PM

Originally Posted by Brookes

What would be the best professions for a PvE Hunter? Are First Aid and Cooking worth leveling? Is making Draenei for the extra 1% hit worth it?

I'm going to re-ask these questions and also, when should a BM Hunter switch between AotD and AotV?

Echion · 12/01/08, 8:17 PM

Originally Posted by Echion

What would be better for a 50/21 spec

[Meteorite Whetstone]
or [Fezzik's Pocketwatch]

I can't decide if the added haste thru out the fight would be better or if the extra AP during my BW/AotB cycles would be more beneficial.

Also, what should i be geming for mainly? In BC it was agility, but i have been reading things that say AP is the way to go.

Thanks

Anyone?

Jerez · 12/01/08, 9:11 PM

pvp and pve spec is the same