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Old 01/07/10, 8:13 PM   #11596
kargathia
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Kargathia
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Currently it seems like it's not mentioned here, but "quick" testing (45 minutes) leads me to believe that Deathbringers will has been whittled down to 2 procs - AP, and Haste. To be exact: Speed of the vrykul, and the old Power of the taunka. No iron dwarf popped up.

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Old 01/07/10, 8:19 PM   #11597
henrik_s
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"You cannot use Tiger's Fury while Berserk is active."

Too cool for holy school.

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Old 01/07/10, 8:25 PM   #11598
Liadain
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Night Elf Rogue
 
Blackhand
So with the change to Deathbringer's Will I'm very curious as to how it sizes up for mutilate now.

Speed of the Vrykul 600 haste
Agility of the Vrykul 600 agility
Strength of the Taunka 600 strength

The fact that it is still arpen on equip makes me think it won't move up that far, but all the calculating and number crunching looks like greek to me.

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Old 01/07/10, 8:34 PM   #11599
Allev
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But you can use Berserk while Tiger's Fury is active. Berserk will cancel the extra damage which TF gives you, though.

So it's generally believed that instead of burning the TF energy right away, you can pop TF, wait for it to expire, then Berserk immediately afterwards. However, depending on how much energy you need at the start of a fight, this is a bad strategy on first berserk because every second without Rip up is more lost damage than the TF buff gives.

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Old 01/07/10, 8:52 PM   #11600
mrlagger
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Night Elf Rogue
 
Spinebreaker
Sigh back to combat we go. It was OK when DK's and mages destroy the meters in TOC but it isn't ok when a rogue has a bit of glory in single target fights typical.

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Old 01/07/10, 9:05 PM   #11601
nubbie
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Dreadmaul
Originally Posted by renork View Post
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Old 01/07/10, 9:09 PM   #11602
renork
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Yeah mine had a download here link that led to bogus survey crap. Very tricksie; figured it out eventually but thanks for trying to help the noob (me).

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Old 01/07/10, 9:16 PM   #11603
cornelious0_0
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I think I'm having issues with something I shouldn't but I have no idea how to access this "gear sheet" to add or remove gear from the spreadsheet.

I'm all but fed up with my Ret pally and want to do everything I can to make my time spent with the rogue as fullfilling as possible.

EDIT: Sorry for the un-needed post...I found out how to do what I need to do just not from within Office 2007. I do sincerely apologize for the infraction causing comment and will work at being less needy around here.

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Old 01/07/10, 10:41 PM   #11604
Starfox
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Originally Posted by Jakani View Post
Nerubian carapace gives you 1.5% avoidance and 1% stamina.

Personally, I'd rather have 1% additional stamina than .5% avoidance, but the call is really up to you. Most tanks go with Nerubian/SSG.
13 Def also increases the damage reduction of IBF by nearly 2% (0.15% per defense what I know)

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Old 01/07/10, 11:22 PM   #11605
Holgrum
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It seems to me like shortening the cooldown slightly more would give a bit more leeway for latency/human error in trying to fit that last LvB in before fs finishes.

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Old 01/08/10, 12:29 AM   #11606
Sorijin
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Delete this.

Last edited by Sorijin : 01/08/10 at 4:55 AM.

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Old 01/08/10, 12:49 AM   #11607
LITTLER0TT
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2 seconds off the cooldown would give us like...2-3 seconds to get the lava burst into a flame shock. 2.5 seconds off the cooldown would be more space but I really don't see them making the cooldown that short for pvp reasons.

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Old 01/08/10, 1:01 AM   #11608
Lithios
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Is there anyway to find out when they went live? Because some of my DPS was a little lower tonight on certain encounters. Im wondering how this will change the class and if it was really neccesary to cut it down so much. Heres an idea a guildmate had of mine that they should have done.

Glyph of Hunger for Blood - HFB no longer provides a damage increase but increases the uptime of your hunger for blood by 30 seconds.

That imo would have been a reasonable nerf. 3% damage and then a little stealth buff.

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Old 01/08/10, 1:04 AM   #11609
greywizard
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Originally Posted by dwyak View Post
Blizzard has buffed this staff. I did some simple tests today. With the proc, [Nibelung] seems to outperform [Frozen Bonespike] + [Talisman of Heedless Sins] quite a bit (gave me around 300 more dps on a dummy).

Now the summoned Val'kyr's smite never misses. They did 1200 dps on the trainning dummy (without CoE). The only problem is their survivability: they don't have avoidance. So they can be easily killed by aoe abilities (while not every aoe hits them, need to try it in more ICC encounters).
the question is do they still get destroyed by aoe damage if so it is still probally not as good when used in boss fights.

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Old 01/08/10, 1:04 AM   #11610
Feyt
 
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I just tested it, in my current gear that's a 400 flat dps nerf on the dummy, on a 7 500 000 damage test. Dunno how that will translate with raid buffs.
Talking about mutilate only here.

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